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UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:29 PM Jun 2015

Clinton calls for 20 days of early voting in every state


It's always good when Democrats push for what we really want instead of bipartisan bullcrap. The Republicans won't do a damned thing to support it, but it's good that she's out there pushing for it. Think Progress:


Hillary Clinton will deliver a speech in Texas on Thursday in which she will address restrictive voting laws in states across the country and call for restoring the provisions of the Voting Rights Act that were recently struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court.

The voting rights speech at the historically-black college Texas Southern University will be one of the first policy speeches of Clinton’s newly launched campaign and will mark one of the first times a 2016 presidential candidate has spoken out about voting restrictions which have swept the country since the high court struck down Section 4 of the VRA in its Shelby County ruling in 2013.


http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/clinton-calls-20-days-early-voting-every
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Clinton calls for 20 days of early voting in every state (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2015 OP
You are either for this or you hate Democracy and America randys1 Jun 2015 #1
Yes! shenmue Jun 2015 #2
Meaningless Gesture - Never Going To Happen cantbeserious Jun 2015 #3
A start Clayguy61 Jun 2015 #4
How is it, 'meaningless'? AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #9
Meaningless Because Nothing Will Change Before The General Election cantbeserious Jun 2015 #11
Nice words. Igel Jun 2015 #5
This is a great idea Gothmog Jun 2015 #6
Gee how novel, every citizen in the U.S. be able to vote in an democracy. She shat on all those lonestarnot Jun 2015 #7
"What part of democracy are they afraid of ? PosterChild Jun 2015 #8
I Couldn't Agree More, Early Voting Should Be Enacted Nationwide... Corey_Baker08 Jun 2015 #10
A good idea for states who don't have it davidpdx Jun 2015 #12

Clayguy61

(31 posts)
4. A start
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015

We can talk about this, and it is a great idea. Another way showing difference between Democrats and Republicans. Red Arizona has at least 15 days of early voting.. Could be more..not impossible to have better system than now.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
5. Nice words.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jun 2015

Rather meaningless. It's like kissing babies. You say it, even though you know that baby's not going to vote for you. It's a sign, a symbol, an index for other traits and properties.

Otherwise it's a waste of time, but nobody likes to hear those words.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/turnout.php

Immediately after voting rights were guaranteed there was an increase in the % of voting age population that turned out--but this also was a politically charged time, so there's a confound. Then the percentage dropped off. And continued to drop. As we had early voting added, extended hours, motor-voter registration, more early voting, voting my mail, guaranteed absentee ballots in more states, the % of voting age population steadily dropped *except* in certain years for very specific reasons mostly unrelated to all the hugely, vastly important initiatives of all which were guaranteed to reverse the decline and often claimed would boost voting percentages by double digits at the very least. Failed initiatives are not merely forgotten; nobody wants to unforget that they existed.

The actual problems that block voter turnout are fairly uncommon (although they're dominant in the press narrative--anecdotes =/= data). Yes, they more often than not affect (D) minority voters. However, they more often than result from actions by (D) boards of elections and result not from discrimination but by policies that say "the best way to distribute voting equipment is to look at where it was needed in the last few elections." Those unexpectedly long lines and heavy turnout in 2008 in some areas that had historically low vote turnout led to some really badly underutilized equipment in 2012. That, however, was not newsworthy.

The systemic impediments to voter turnout that keep getting a lot of press would return the status quo very often to the mid-2000s or mid-1990s, and that in just some states. Given that there wasn't much of an increase since then, it's unlikely that those blocks would lead to the double-digit declines predicted. (And, in areas where such anti-voter rules have been put in place, there's been barely a significant drop-off. Again, the predictions are grandiose, but reality is trifling.)

GOTV has trumped all of the vast improvements. And that's only a few percentage points above baseline, and not even that in all years.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
7. Gee how novel, every citizen in the U.S. be able to vote in an democracy. She shat on all those
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jun 2015

fucking pugs trying to take that too.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. A good idea for states who don't have it
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jun 2015

A few states already have progressive voting in place like Oregon. Of course it is up to the individual state unless the Federal legislation is enacted again. So while you can propose it, as president she'd have to convince Congress to restore the parts of the Voting Rights Act.

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