We didn't have enough to pay the rest of the staff, myself included, but we considered them so important, we didn't wannt to lose them.

about that other thing.

I don't see anyone working for free if they don't want to.

The article is about those who are working for free with the expectation, stated or otherwise, that they will be taken care of in a Clinton administration.

They will get those jobs if she wins.

Some will not.

Mostly not in DC, but working on other campaigns and stuff like that.

Actually, they called it "extern" if they did not pay you. The promise of experience (resume fodder) and the potential for hire after college was a huge incentive. They were highly sought after positions.

I don't see anything wrong with it. I think it might be a generational thing, however, I was surprised when a family friend's daughter says she refuses to work as an intern while in college.

If I had gotten an internship, I would be way more successful today. Instead, I have a support role for those who went and got the internships and are big swingers now. I do get paid very well, but those big swingers have mansions and beach homes.

All in hopes of getting a full time offer.

That's not an internship, that is a well paying enterance level position.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

The median household income in this country is $51k for an entire family.

See, this is why I don't take this so-called economic justice stuff here seriously.

That's $60,000 a year. Am I supposed to think that's not much or something?

I was happy to get $15,500/yr (on the Hill it was $14,500). I supplemented that with part time jobs and eventually overtime. There were plenty of kids who had connections and their parents paying for their apartments/houses. I think it has been this way for a long time in both government and corporations.

As per usual, with Hillary there is a substantive and very material gap between words and deeds. She makes a phone call to fast food workers trying to organize a drive to raise their wages to $15 an hour. But she vaguely says she supports them BUT won't commit to that $15.00 an hour. And now we learn, thanks to British journos, that she's stiffing not just the standard brand new grads willing to work as unpaid interns, but experienced professionals as well.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, BOYS AND GIRLS? ONLY THE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY NEED APPLY! Obviously many are hoping to parlay this free work into a job should she be elected, but they have to be wealthy enough to work for free. In other words, ain't gonna be hirin' no po folks (to borrow HRC's southern accent).

A veteran Democratic strategist unaffiliated with any presidential campaign said he thought Clinton was sending a mixed message by hiring hundreds of advisers to focus on a policy message around income inequality, only “to hire people as interns and treat people as free labor who have already done the job before”. “It is a really terrible way to treat the most vulnerable people on campaign staff and makes me question their leadership on everything else,” the strategist told the Guardian.

Another example of HRC reversing her position:

Does he have interns as well, or is all of his staff paid?

Hillary has more money. She is just exploiting students and the unemployed to get unpaid labor.

Clinton appears to be a major hypocrite since she called on companies to start paying their interns, but she doesn't.

Both campaigns have thousands of unpaid volunteers. An intern is not a volunteer. An intern a worker.

if anything.
what about social-security tax.
does HRC hold their wages until they finish the contract?

is she holding on to their passports?

Oh, wait.

My bad, she doesn't pay them.

I feel bad for unpaid Clinton interns. That doesn't really even look that good on a resume. Well it can but it doesn't help everyone.

Kudos to the Guardian for breaking the story and the op for posting the petition.

Especially when she chastises businesses for having unpaid interns.


Especially when she says stuff like:

Why have none of Hillary's supporters condemned her for her behaviour instead of criticizing Bernie for paying 12/hr plus 80-90% of health insurance premiums?

Shouldn't he pay them too?

I signed the petition.

They are not free to go home when they want. They can not decline assigned work tasks or they can lose the internship and possibly flunk the course, even fail out of school and lose their financial aid. An intern is simply a worker who doesn't get paid. A volunteer can leave whenever they want.

These are 100% fundamentally different roles.

I used to volunteer at a food pantry. Volunteering is awesome. I've volunteered for campaigns before. I've also been an intern. And it's a totally different thing. An internship is a job.

You seem to be pretty sure there is something formally established. The reality it's terminology and there is no fundamental difference. They perform the same duties. But the term "interned for xxxx" is on a resume it gives a leg up for the job applicant.

In our offices we simply don't need more employees, but students need internship gigs. We don't pay because we really don't need any more employees, but we are happy to provide OJT, resume fodder and experience in their chosen field. We also work around their school and paying jobs. Some will only show up for a couple of hours a week. Unpaid interns are used in public and private sector.

I have no doubt in my mind that Clinton's campaign offices has students who are NOT rich and can onl y provide a few hours here and there...now how is that different than a volunteer?

I'm just sayin'...