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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:27 PM Jan 2012

What was done right this year? (foreign policy)

What was done right this year?

Posted by Heather Hurlburt

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2. Finding its feet on human rights. Few will have noticed even among the wonk-erati, but from institutionalizing government procedures for catching potential genocides in advance, focusing on women's role in international peace and security and improving Pentagon training on human rights, the Administration put several long-fought initiatives into place this year. Secretary Clinton's LGBT initiatives only got noticed at home when conservatives tried to make political hay out of the radical idea that sexual orientation should not be a death sentence; her speech that accompanied the women's initiative in December didn't even get that much attention. but in the rest of the world, where sexual and gender violence are all-too prevalent, and three women were among the Nobel Prize winners, this kind of US leadership will matter. The relevance of the US intervention in Libya for human rights will be debated for decades; what should be remem bered is how it also allowed a UN Security council-backed mission to remove a sore election loser in Cote d'Ivoire and end developing carnage.

3. South Sudan. That the new nation was able to come into existence successfully, and relatively quietly, this year is due in no small part to the Administration's interventions at the UN and on the ground.

4. Iraq troop withdrawal. Not so long ago, this didn't seem a foregone conclusion at all.

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6. Decline of Al Qaeda. US military actions, including but not limited to the killing of Bin Laden, have hastened the organization's decline and its loss of support among the global Muslim community, dramatized so vividly in the Arab Spring.

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An interesting problem. These achievements-- which are real and substantial-- are for the most part downpayments on a better future, on a set of global institutions and relationships which work better and function smoothly in a different, more prosperous time. It is hard, from either a security or an economic perspective, to stack that long-range view up against the real or perceived challenges we face, or that we hear shouted about on cable.

http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2011/12/what-was-done-right-this-year.html



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What was done right this year? (foreign policy) (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
K&R -- and I love "wonk-erati". nt gateley Jan 2012 #1
Definitely Obama's strong card is foreign policy. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #2
True ProSense Jan 2012 #3

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Definitely Obama's strong card is foreign policy.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jan 2012

And Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton support him well in that area.

But with regard to human rights -- it is easy enough to cast the stone out of the eye of the "evil-doers" of other countries, but Obama needs to work a lot harder right here on human rights issues. His stance on the discriminatory sentencing for different types of cocaine is one step in the right direction. But his administration, especially his Justice Department have made numerous steps in the wrong direction for every step that they have made in the right direction on human rights.

Guantanamo is a disgrace. It makes our whole country look hypocritical on the human rights issue. Obama should have closed it down as soon as he took office without giving Congress a chance to stop him. He should have had a plan in place before his inauguration and announced it at the inauguration.

I realize that Guantanamo is a Republican Bush 2 crime, but still Obama has not made a great enough effort to close it.

And Guantanamo is not the only human rights disaster on Obama's watch. There is too much surveillance. How can we claim to be "free" or a true democracy or republic when the government can trace our every phone call, our every location over the course of the day or rummage through our personal luggage when we travel?

Some surveillance is necessary, but we have far too much.

Then all the absurd secrecy. Would it really be an exaggeration to suggest that if we ended the excessive secrecy, our government might save a whole lot of money and function more efficiently?

Oh, and the growing trend of military involvement in law enforcement within the 50 states. Horrors.

I never thought the Third Amendment might ever come under attack. But at the rate the Obama administration and Republican House are going, we could have Navy Seals overnighting in our front rooms before you know. All we would need is a national economic emergency requiring us all to tighten our belts and make room for soldiers in our home -- to save taxpayer money, of course. (I'm joking about the Third Amendment, but then, when I was growing up, I never could have imagined that my own government would be checking me for weapons when I traveled. My high school government teacher must be turning over in her grave! So soldiers in our homes is not an impossibility as things are going. The Fourth Amendment has already been trashed as have the First and the Fifth. The Founding Fathers did not place the Third Amendment so high on the list without a reason. Let's hope their decision was not based on prescient knowledge.)

OK, so maybe the Third Amendment thing is a big paranoid, but now that the military is permitted to be involved in ordinary law enforcement (am I wrong or are they now to be involved in drug busts?), where are the soldiers going to stay? Do we have enough space on our military bases to house them when they are working within our borders?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. True
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jan 2012
But with regard to human rights -- it is easy enough to cast the stone out of the eye of the "evil-doers" of other countries, but Obama needs to work a lot harder right here on human rights issues. His stance on the discriminatory sentencing for different types of cocaine is one step in the right direction. But his administration, especially his Justice Department have made numerous steps in the wrong direction for every step that they have made in the right direction on human rights.

Guantanamo is a disgrace. It makes our whole country look hypocritical on the human rights issue. Obama should have closed it down as soon as he took office without giving Congress a chance to stop him. He should have had a plan in place before his inauguration and announced it at the inauguration.

...and there is always a "but."

The fact remains that Congress is still obstructing efforts to close Guantanamo. If Congress had complied with the administration's stated policy in 2009, it's likely Guantanamo would be closed by not.

October 2011:

GOP senator defends military custody for suspects

The top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday defended a congressional move to require military custody for many terror suspects and insisted that the Obama administration's opposition is misguided.

Sen. John McCain of Arizona said the provision in a defense bill, part of a package of steps dealing with the detention and prosecution of terror suspects, had the strong backing of Republicans and Democrats when the panel approved the legislation in June. However, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said this week that White House opposition and concern among several lawmakers over the provision was blocking the sweeping bill.

Congress and the White House have been at odds over detention policy ever since Obama was sworn in. Lawmakers have resisted the administration's efforts to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and to try terror suspects in federal courts in the United States rather than by military tribunal.

The latest dispute centers on a provision that would require military custody of a suspect determined to be a member of al-Qaida or its affiliate and involved in the planning or carrying out of an attack on the United States. The administration argues that such a step would hamper efforts by the FBI or other law enforcement while requiring military custody for all terror suspects.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2016423906_apuscongressterrorsuspects.html


Still there have been very clear action on human rights related to the wars.

  • Ordered an end to the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, withdrew
    flawed legal analysis used to justify torture and applied the Army Field Manual on interrogations
    government wide.
  • Abolished the CIA secret prisons.
  • Says that “waterboarding is torture” and “contrary to America’s traditions… contrary to our ideals.”
  • No reports of extraordinary rendition to torture or other cruelty under his administration.
  • Failed to hold those responsible for past torture and other cruelty accountable; has blocked
    alleged victims of torture from having their day in court.
http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/ALWCandidateReportCard.pdf

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