2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere are posts going around professing that Bernie will not be allowed on certain ballots, such as
NH and Kentucky. I am not sure how much validity there is or is not to this, but if the Democratic party believes that Nader was a factor in 2000, this will blow that out of the water.
Keep in mind I am not professing support for any potential Democratic candidate, but observing that at least 20% of Democrats support or are sympathetic to Bernie, and to prevent him from being on any ballot will hurt the Democratic party as a whole in the general election.
djean111
(14,255 posts)still_one
(92,250 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)certain elements may decide that winning is more important then saving face.
still_one
(92,250 posts)candidate running as a Democrat off the battle, and the war being the general election
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Granted the same access as any other Democratic candidate. I will likely vote for Hillary if she eins fair and square, but I see shenanigans, all bets are off.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)You can't make this stuff up.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)As such, we do not have a real national election, we have fifty synchronized state elections.
So if that happens, it has nothing to do with the current Democratic Party shutting Sanders out of the election through electoral jigggery pokery.
Sanders has said that he will do what ever it takes to run in all fifty states. The Democratic Party even made an announcement that to qualify to be the nominee, all he needed to do was to win delegates.
I am not sure why this story keeps surfacing.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)the White House than for Bernie to become President, because I think for DINOs the real division is between the riff-raff and the fat-cats.
So it would not surprise me if corporatist Democrats undermined the democratic party to freeze out Bernie.
As to the truth of this specific rumor, I have not heard anything about it.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)according to the rules. Maybe he should register as a democrat? He has also said he will not run a spoiler campaign and he seems to be a man of ethics and I believe he would stand behind that.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I also read same thing is true in Illinois, which means Obama wasn't a registered Dem either. If that is true, then they've set the precedent by allowing Obama on so if the Dem Party leaders try to leave Bernie out it will show their true colors, that they only want allow corporate Dems on the ballots any more.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)In his state it is non-partisan. I'm not registered as a Democrat either. I was a precinct chair in 2008. The only requirements for that were that I voted Democrat in the last or current election.
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)ButSanders problem is that he claims he is not a Democrat.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)After watching Claire McCaskill's (D) lame attack on him, it might be a plus.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So according to them, he's more official a Democrat than you or I, he's one of their candidates as also not incidentally a founder of the largest Democratic caucus within the US Congress, the Progressive Caucus. You are looking for what exactly again? A note from the Vermont Sec of State?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)The DNC does not set the rules, the states do.
R. P. McMurphy
(834 posts)spell his name and be prepared to write him in.
FEEL THE BERN!
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Not directly related, but in '08, a couple of states had moved their primaries earlier than the DLC authorized, Obama and Hillary said they wouldn't campaign in those states to honor the DNC's wishes, somehow Hillary's name ended up on the ballot but not Obama's, then later on Hillary tried to get those delegates counted for her.
I may not have every detail right, but I'm pretty confident in its general accuracy. Playing dirty like that caused a lot of controversy, but they thought it was worth it and went for it anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bernie excluded for some primaries, I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
still_one
(92,250 posts)candidates should not be on the Democratic ballot
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Its's a recent example (the last primary) by the same candidate (Hillary) to bend the primary rules in a highly controversial way to get delegates from a state or states without her opponent having been on the ballot.
I made no claim that it is the situation you are describing, merely that is a relevant precedent, and we should beware.
Again thanks for your position on this issue, having everyone on the ballot, I appreciate it.
still_one
(92,250 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)DU does not get to do that.