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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:28 AM Jul 2015

As Baltimore mayor, O’Malley’s police tactics sowed distrust


It was as a crime-busting mayor some 15 years ago that O’Malley first gained national attention. Although he is positioning himself as a progressive alternative to Hillary Clinton, O’Malley also touts a police crackdown during his time as mayor that led to a stark reduction in drug violence and homicides as one of his major achievements.

Yet some civic leaders and community activists in Baltimore portray O’Malley’s policing policies in troubling terms. The say the “zero-tolerance” approach mistreated young black men even as it helped dramatically reduce crime, fueling a deep mistrust of law enforcement that flared anew last week when Gray died after suffering a spinal injury while in police custody.

Police in Baltimore — like their counterparts elsewhere — have had strained relations with African Americans for generations. But community leaders say the relationship reached a nadir during O’Malley’s tenure, thanks to a policing strategy that resulted in tens of thousands of arrests for minor offenses such as loitering and littering...


“We still have men who are suffering from it today,” said Marvin “Doc” Cheathem, a past president of the Baltimore branch of the NAACP, which won a court settlement stemming from the city’s policing policies. “The guy is good at talking, but a lot of us know the real story of the harm he brought to our city.”

Bishop Douglas Miles, a community leader, said O’Malley’s department “set the tone for how the police department in Baltimore has reacted to poor and African American communities since then.”
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more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/as-mayor-of-baltimore-omalleys-policing-strategy-sowed-mistrust/2015/04/25/af81178a-ea9d-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html

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As Baltimore mayor, O’Malley’s police tactics sowed distrust (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 OP
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #1
Can't resist, eh? 'You Have Martin O’Malley All Wrong.' elleng Jul 2015 #2
"A lot of us know the real story of the harm he brought to our city" - Baltimore NAACP President Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #3
'For all the criticism, O’Malley twice won election as mayor, elleng Jul 2015 #4
Baltimore is a majority AA city JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #7
YES! elleng Jul 2015 #17
He only won 30% of the black vote in his first mayoral primary Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #21
Where did the ham go? zappaman Jul 2015 #5
.. Cha Jul 2015 #6
Oops, someone must have given Ham the FSogol Sock Quiz! FSogol Jul 2015 #8
Stop implying I'm a sock puppet just because I post negative stuff about Martin O'Malley Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #10
Wasn't I talking about Ham? FSogol Jul 2015 #12
Ham and Cheese sammy samwich yum yum snooper2 Jul 2015 #15
Same old hit piece you post ever other day? FSogol Jul 2015 #9
A Washington post article with quotes from Baltimore civic leaders is what you call a "hit piece" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #11
An article where you ignore the main idea to bash O'Malley. FSogol Jul 2015 #13
The title is: As Baltimore mayor, O’Malley’s police tactics sowed distrust Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #14
Cherry-picking articles doesn't help your case. Baltimore is much better off FSogol Jul 2015 #16
come on now you're the one cherry picking. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #22
Why not post Andy823 Jul 2015 #18
.. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #20
"The devil is in the weeds." Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #19
You don't have to do this. kenfrequed Jul 2015 #23
Seems like an OK guy? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #24

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

elleng

(131,107 posts)
2. Can't resist, eh? 'You Have Martin O’Malley All Wrong.'
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:04 AM
Jul 2015

'And so now that O’Malley has embarked on an even longer-shot presidential campaign, the visuals of O’Malley’s record being seemingly undone before him are too good to resist.

And oddly, considering the incoming he has taken in recent days, O’Malley said he welcomes the scrutiny.

“It is important to talk about the biggest issues we are facing as a country, which is that it is not about our cities not working. It is not about government programs that don’t work. It’s about an economy that doesn’t work, that tells a huge portion of our fellow citizens that they are unneeded and unnecessary,” O’Malley said.

“That’s the pool of kerosene that is beneath the match of these police incidents.”. .

Time magazine named O’Malley one of the five best big-city mayors in America. Esquire named him the best young mayor in America. CitiStat won Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government “Innovations in American Government Award.”. .

“I don’t recall O’Malley stating that he would do something about ‘black crime,’ just crime,” wrote liberal Baltimore Sun columnist Dan Rodericks toward the end of O’Malley’s time in City Hall. “Coming out of the long, dreary Schmoke years, Baltimoreans appreciated O’Malley’s almost singular focus, along with millions in increased funding dedicated to drug treatment for the city’s thousands of addicts who contribute, directly and indirectly, to 80 percent of crime.”

“He was trying to stop the crime on the streets. People were getting killed daily on Old York Road and in Park Heights,” Robert Nowlin, a Baltimore community activist, told The Daily Beast. “He did something a lot of these mayors don’t do: He walked with the small people. A lot of these mayors stay in the affluent areas. He walked the streets.”. .

Tying O’Malley to Baltimore is an old political saw. When he tried to run for governor of Maryland, Republicans ran ads with flashing police lights, talked about how O’Malley would do for Baltimore what he did for Maryland. O’Malley won statewide twice though, boosted by those same Baltimore neighborhoods that he is now blamed for turning into powder kegs.

“I don’t think there is another person in this race who has had the executive experience over the spectrum of America that I have had as mayor of a very troubled city on its back,” said O’Malley. “I saw that gap between who we think we are and who we really are as a nation.”'

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/06/you-have-martin-o-malley-all-wrong.html

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. "A lot of us know the real story of the harm he brought to our city" - Baltimore NAACP President
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:20 AM
Jul 2015

How many people died at the hands of Baltimore cops? How many thousands of lives ruined with arrest records? Why should this politician get a free pass. His policies escalated a wave of police terror against the black residents of Baltimore. He should answer for this. Black lives matter.


Although prosecutors declined to bring many of the cases, activists contend that those who were arrested often could not get their records expunged, making it harder for them to get jobs.

“We still have men who are suffering from it today,” said Marvin “Doc” Cheathem, a past president of the Baltimore branch of the NAACP, which won a court settlement stemming from the city’s policing policies. “The guy is good at talking, but a lot of us know the real story of the harm he brought to our city.

Bishop Douglas Miles, a community leader, said O’Malley’s department “set the tone for how the police department in Baltimore has reacted to poor and African American communities since then.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/as-mayor-of-baltimore-omalleys-policing-strategy-sowed-mistrust/2015/04/25/af81178a-ea9d-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html

elleng

(131,107 posts)
4. 'For all the criticism, O’Malley twice won election as mayor,
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jul 2015

capturing nearly 67 percent of the Democratic primary vote in 2003 on his way to a second term. In an interview Saturday, he said he believes to this day that his administration did the right thing.

“They were individual arrests, and oftentimes of the same people again and again and again,” O’Malley said. “We achieved the biggest reduction in .?.?. crime of any city in America, and none of it was easy. All of it was hard. But there were very few people who want to return to those violent days of 1999.” . .

What was positive was that there was zero-tolerance for criminals and drug dealers locking down neighborhoods and taking neighborhoods hostage,” said the Rev. Franklin Madison Reid, a Baltimore pastor. “Does that mean there was no down side? No. But the bottom line was that the city was in a lot stronger position as a city after he became mayor.”

Benjamin T. Jealous, a former president of the national NAACP who worked with O’Malley when Maryland abolished the death penalty in 2013, credited him for supporting a civilian review board as mayor and for a sharp drop in police shootings that occurred during that time. Jealous said O’Malley’s “mass incarceration” police strategy is “a separate issue” than police brutality, and “a conversation for a different day.”

“It was a period where a lot of mayors were doing whatever they could to try to reduce crime,” Jealous said.'

April 25, Washington Post.



JustAnotherGen

(31,896 posts)
7. Baltimore is a majority AA city
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:34 AM
Jul 2015

He won a second term as Mayor - because of the narcotics and subsequent crime issues being handled to the majority's satisfaction.


Benjamin T. Jealous, a former president of the national NAACP who worked with O’Malley when Maryland abolished the death penalty in 2013, credited him for supporting a civilian review board as mayor and for a sharp drop in police shootings that occurred during that time. Jealous said O’Malley’s “mass incarceration” police strategy is “a separate issue” than police brutality, and “a conversation for a different day.


I'm going to go right ahead and agree with Jealous on this.
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
21. He only won 30% of the black vote in his first mayoral primary
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jul 2015

Because he was running against two African American candidates who split the black vote.

Baltimore is a highly Democratic city and the winner of the primary usually will go on to win the general, if not always.

Then in his run for re-election he didn't really have much of a primary challenge.


http://www.newsweek.com/2015/06/26/martin-omalley-tries-regain-his-standing-black-voters-win-2016-343346.html

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
8. Oops, someone must have given Ham the FSogol Sock Quiz!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:10 AM
Jul 2015

FSogol's Sock Quiz

Do you usually come in pairs?
Do you sometimes get lost in the dryer?
If you get a hole in you, does someone throw you away?
If you don't stay up, are you sometimes called a quitter?
Do you look silly if someone wears you with sandals?
In the olden days did people darn you?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
10. Stop implying I'm a sock puppet just because I post negative stuff about Martin O'Malley
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jul 2015

Refute it if you want, disagree or whatever.

I actually find you to be mean because this is the third time you implied I was a sock puppet or troll.

I can't control somebody made a user name similar to mine. Mine is Cheese. Somebody made one called Ham Sandwich, that is not related.

This is the third time FSogol has made a post implying I'm a sock puppet or troll.

From one human to another I'm asking you please to stop doing that.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
9. Same old hit piece you post ever other day?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:14 AM
Jul 2015

Why didn't you post this part of the same article?

What was positive was that there was zero-tolerance for criminals and drug dealers locking down neighborhoods and taking neighborhoods hostage,” said the Rev. Franklin Madison Reid, a Baltimore pastor. “Does that mean there was no down side? No. But the bottom line was that the city was in a lot stronger position as a city after he became mayor.

Benjamin T. Jealous, a former president of the national NAACP who worked with O’Malley when Maryland abolished the death penalty in 2013, credited him for supporting a civilian review board as mayor and for a sharp drop in police shootings that occurred during that time. Jealous said O’Malley’s “mass incarceration” police strategy is “a separate issue” than police brutality, and “a conversation for a different day.”


You are also ignoring the policies of the people who were in charge of Baltimore from 2007 to today in order to go back and blame O'Malley.
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
11. A Washington post article with quotes from Baltimore civic leaders is what you call a "hit piece"
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

It's OK to admit Martin O'Malley has made a few mistakes in his life.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
14. The title is: As Baltimore mayor, O’Malley’s police tactics sowed distrust
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

And that's what the article is about. That's the main idea.

You're just making stuff up.

You said I post the same article every day. But I never posted the same article before.


But now having done a search I see it was posted previously by user brooklynite:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026587570#post1


Instead of acknowledging the lives destroyed by Martin O'Malley's policies you are using every tactic to mislead and deflect.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
16. Cherry-picking articles doesn't help your case. Baltimore is much better off
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jul 2015

thanks to O'Malley. Here's some of those pesky facts you seem to hate:

Made Baltimore City A Safer Place
O’Malley was elected on a mandate to make Baltimore safer. Under his leadership, Baltimore achieved the steepest reduction in crime of any major city, while bringing homicides below 300 per year for the first time in a decade. O’Malley also expanded services drug treatment, doubling funding and leading the way to a 30% drop in the number of overdose deaths.

Policed the Police
O’Malley’s administration took strong steps to police the police – increasing minority hiring, improving accountability, and fully staffing a civilian review board. Under his leadership, the city reduced police shootings to their lowest level in a decade.

Revitalized Baltimore’s Economy
As crime dropped under O’Malley’s leadership, commercial investment and housing values doubled. O’Malley also improved Baltimore’s schools, taking steps that increased graduation rates by 25% and made impressive gains in student test scores. Under O’Malley, Baltimore’s decades long population slide finally ended.

Restored Fiscal Management
O’Malley brought the city’s budget under control, producing the first surplus in decades, while cutting property taxes to their lowest levels in 30 years. These efforts in “very strong fiscal management” earned Baltimore a bond upgrade from negative to positive.


also

Expanded Voting Rights
While other states around the nation push stricter voter ID laws designed to limit people’s ability to exercise the right to vote, Governor O’Malley made it easier to vote in Maryland by expanding early voting and same-day voter registration.

Ended the Death Penalty
Under Governor O’Malley’s leadership, Maryland repealed the death penalty and replaced it with life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Led the Nation in Public Education
Under Governor O’Malley, Maryland’s public schools ranked #1 in America five years in a row, according to Education Week. Even in the height of the recession, while many states were cutting education spending, O’Malley invested record amounts in Maryland’s public schools, increasing funding by 37%.

Made College More Affordable
Governor O’Malley made higher education a budget priority and froze tuition for four years in a row. Under his leadership, Maryland did better than every state but one in keeping down college costs, according to the College Board.

Expanded Pre-Kindergarten
Governor O’Malley expanded pre-kindergarten to 1,600 more children in Maryland and laid the groundwork for a further statewide expansion.


 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
22. come on now you're the one cherry picking.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015

The whole point of this article is to look into O'Malley's record on policing.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
18. Why not post
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015

Positive things about the person you support? Have you ever done that? The constant attacks on O'Malley and Clinton are not really helping people to believe you are who you claim to be.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
19. "The devil is in the weeds."
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:50 AM
Jul 2015

This issue of his policing policies seems awfully complex to me. He was given a pass on this at the ballot box. In view of his overall stellar progressive record as governor of Maryland, he is by far my favorite second choice as nominee. I think he would make a damn fine president.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. You don't have to do this.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie already is the actual opposition to Hillary. There is little reason for bringing up O'Malley at this point. He seems like an ok guy. Just let him fade.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
24. Seems like an OK guy?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jul 2015

He deliberately instigated illegal mass arrests of thousands of black men, locked them in dirty crowded jail cells for days, strip searched and humiliated, and then released without charges, and left thousands of innocent people with arrest records.

This doesn't seem like an ok guy. This kind of police abuse led to the riots.

Clinton and Sanders both get extreme amounts of scrutiny on this site.

O'Malley should be scrutinized too.

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