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Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 02:25 PM Jun 2012

Latest Warren "Outrage!!" - Parents Eloped, Says She. Breitbartians Dig Up Marriage Cert

Last edited Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:04 PM - Edit history (2)

Not linking of course. You can find it on your own. Elizabeth Warren says her mom told her they had to elope because her dad's parents objected to her mom's Native American heritage.

The Breitbarticii, not content with their normal amount of bullshit gargling, went and dug up Warren's parents' wedding certificate. The two were wed in the county seat by a Methodist minister at the church building. The county seat of Hughes County, Holdenville, OK, is only 14 miles away from where the couple both say they live, Wetumpka, Oklahoma. So this is evidence, say the Breitbrats, that the couple did NOT elope!

Did you miss it? It's because the wedding took place in a church, not the justice of the peace. Never mind that both Warren's parents lived in Wetumpka which certainly must have had church buildings in which two local kids could get married with their parents' blessing. Never mind that I know my parents eloped and then, once the uproar died down, got married in a church ceremony later. Never mind that all this seemingly impossible task would take is a willing minister and the barest amount of preparation. Never mind that Warren specifically said her mom told her this, so if anyone was lying, it was Warren's mother! Warren is a liar to these ignorant wingnut welfare chasers because she is, shut up, that's why!

Sigh.

ETA: Looking at the wedding certificate more closely, I see that the minister's wife is one of the witnesses to the wedding. OK, so I've never been married, but isn't that what the best man and the maid of honor are for? Aren't they customarily the witnesses for the certificate? Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know there are billions of reasons why someone other than those two might be the official witnesses. But one of those reasons is that you need someone handy and anyone will do when the couple has eloped!

Also, there is nothing, nothing, NOTHING on the certificate that says they were married in a church building. It's only that it was a Methodist minister doing the ceremony.

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sinkingfeeling

(51,471 posts)
1. Earth to Breitbartians: Definition of elopement found in dictionary....
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jun 2012

Noun 1. elopement - the act of running away with a lover (usually to get married)
running away - the act of leaving (without permission) the place you are expected to be

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/elopement


Doesn't really matter if it was 2 miles or 2000. Doesn't matter if it were in a church or at somebody's house. It's the act of running away.

P.S. My parents eloped and went a total of 35 miles away on December 28, 1939.

DoBotherMe

(2,340 posts)
3. My first husband and I eloped
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

to the Methodist Church 1 mile away from our apartment. We told no one that we were getting married except the pastor and the couple who stood up with us. (And this was the time when blood tests were required to get married.) Dana ; )

Today the term "elopement" is colloquially used for any marriage performed in haste or in private or without a public period of engagement. Some couples elope because they dislike or cannot afford an expensive wedding ceremony, or wish to avoid objections from parents
.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elopement_(marriage)

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
5. Thanks for that! This is the kind of thing that can backfire on the BigGovs.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jun 2012

The people that read them do have lives, and they know the circumstances of how people in their own families eloped. Not many have experience with Harvard Uni faculty, so they can make up crap about that all dang day. But making hay over eloping? The mask is definitely slipping.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
4. If the minister's wife was the witness, it likely was an elopement.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jun 2012

With church weddings typically the Best Man and Maid of Honor sign as witnesses. If not them, a relative of the bride or groom. Almost never would it be the minister's wife unless she were somehow connected in some other way to the couple which is possible but not that likely if she were the only witness. And the Breitbartanistas are idiots. People didn't always travel great distances to elope. The county seat is usually where they would go because they can get the license and get married in one fell swoop, which is kind of the idea when you elope. Some ministers would even coordinate with county clerks so that they can make a little extra cash doing weddings. Typically the wedding was done in the minister's house or parsonage, because that is where there is both a minister and witness after normal business hours, which is when most elopement weddings occur.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
7. My Dad was a Methodist Minister
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jun 2012

While most of the weddings he did where the traditional kind, there were the odd ones - had a couple call from out of state - the bride's mom had been married at our church decades before (we were not there then). They wanted to get married in that same church.

They drove over, Dad did the ceremony, I was the witness. Technically you could call it an elopement.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
6. Like anybody cares! This is getting stupider and stupider!
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jun 2012

They really don't want her talking about the issues do they?

Don't let them do this, Elizabeth! Get right back on Scott Brown as a Wall St. gofer. Hammer that message day and night.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
8. Republicans answer every attack by Democrats with the claim
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jun 2012

that Democrats are the ones not focusing on the issues.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. Just gentle criticism: Warren shouldn't keep dwelling on this. I don't think it wins many votes.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jun 2012

I mean votes that are undecided. I know that dedicated Dems love her....

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