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Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:21 PM Jul 2015

Do you want to lose the White House? Forcing the guy with all the momentum...

....to run as an Independent is how you lose the White House.

Seriously, Hillary, O'Malley, Chaffee whoever, should be out there screaming that Bernie is allowed as a D on all ballots. Beat him fairly, don't create something that is going to come back to bite you in the General.

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Do you want to lose the White House? Forcing the guy with all the momentum... (Original Post) Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 OP
It's not clear to me that anyone is actually trying to do this. winter is coming Jul 2015 #1
Thats why I'm saying now.... Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #2
True. The meme was started by a republican pundit, HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3
Plus the DNC is fundraising with Sanders' photo. While some state secretary of state FSogol Jul 2015 #24
Yep. nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #4
No one is forcing anything... Agschmid Jul 2015 #5
I plan on voting for the Democratic nominee Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #6
If the keep Bernie OFF any ballots, not just you, but llterally millions of people will not vote for sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #15
Why? A serious contender for the Democratic LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #18
Millions? Yeah? No. Adrahil Jul 2015 #19
Is this a problem? Where is this being pushed? Raine1967 Jul 2015 #7
I don't know, New Hampshire? I just signed on to DU and saw it was the topic du jour nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #8
Ok, so you 'don't know'. So you decided to make an OP Raine1967 Jul 2015 #9
Is this not a conversation that is being had?? Is New Hampshire not an issue? Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #10
It is also being put forward that he is not a Dem and should not be on the ballot, in NY or NH. So sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #16
You may want to investigate before starting another post... Sancho Jul 2015 #11
You don't understand my op.... Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #12
I'm not sure why...candidates have no control or standing... Sancho Jul 2015 #13
You don't understand your OP as reflected to me above. eom. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #14
See post 10. Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #17
Who is in charge of getting Bernie on the state ballots as a Democrat? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #20
Exactly. jwirr Jul 2015 #21
I don't understand the premise of your op. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #22
You are not alone. nt Raine1967 Jul 2015 #23

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
1. It's not clear to me that anyone is actually trying to do this.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:23 PM
Jul 2015

All the "concern" is just a way to remind us that Bernie Is Not One Of Us.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
2. Thats why I'm saying now....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jul 2015

that if this were to become a reality, then Hillary et all need to make noise that EVERYBODY running in our primary needs to be on the ballot.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. True. The meme was started by a republican pundit,
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jul 2015

and repeated here by several concern trolls. The DNC and NH Dem Party have called for him to be on the ballot.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
24. Plus the DNC is fundraising with Sanders' photo. While some state secretary of state
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jul 2015

might grouse about Sanders, the DNC will force them to fall in line and include all the candidates. All the nail biting and wailing about this on DU is becoming comical. Hasn't anyone paid attention to politics before?

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. I plan on voting for the Democratic nominee
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jul 2015

If they keep Bernie off the ballot however my plans will likely change, if the Democrats want my vote in the general they need to allow a fair vote in the primary. I can plug my nose and vote for a candidate who I am not a fan of if it keeps the Republican out, but I can't vote for a candidate who did not win the primary fairly.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. If the keep Bernie OFF any ballots, not just you, but llterally millions of people will not vote for
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:33 PM
Jul 2015

whoever GETS, not WINS the nomination.

I doubt it will happen, he has far too much support at this point and it would become a scandal as Bernie's supporters are extremely active and will make sure that entire country knows what happened. That alone should ensure that he is on every ballot.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
18. Why? A serious contender for the Democratic
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jul 2015

Presidential nomination, should dot the electoral "i"s and cross the electoral "t"s. It's an election, not a coronation. There are rules. Hillary didn't make them; New Hampshire did--years ago.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
9. Ok, so you 'don't know'. So you decided to make an OP
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:42 PM
Jul 2015

based on something you don't know. Joe the Revelator, You can do better than this.







 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
10. Is this not a conversation that is being had?? Is New Hampshire not an issue?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jul 2015

Raine1967, you can answer the question.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. It is also being put forward that he is not a Dem and should not be on the ballot, in NY or NH. So
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:35 PM
Jul 2015

it is important to let it be known right now that if anyone is planning such a thing, they need to forget it now. Better to preempt disasters than try to deal with them after the fact.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
11. You may want to investigate before starting another post...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:52 PM
Jul 2015

there are decades old laws in states like NH, NY, and KY. Regardless, they prevent candidates from running as fusion candidates (more than one party) or switching back and forth.

In NH, you have to sign a sworn statement that you are registered as a __________. Bernie cannot sign that at this time (maybe).

It has nothing to do with Hillary, the Democratic party, or any other conspiracies.

NH's Secretary of State, election board, etc. will decide if Bernie can be on the primary ballot as a Democrat.

http://www.wmur.com/politics/question-is-bernie-sanders-eligible-to-run-in-the-nh-democratic-primary/32674614

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
12. You don't understand my op....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jul 2015

I'm saying that if that is the case, then other candidates need to speak up and state that he needs to be allowed on the primary ballot.

For example:

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
13. I'm not sure why...candidates have no control or standing...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jul 2015

state laws make sense for those states. That's why they passed them.

Other candidates can jump in (3 or 4 Democrats, a dozen or more Republicans, Green, Socialist, etc.). If they oppose Sanders they would be accused of dirty politics.

If they think Sanders should be in, they may be accused of playing some games with Tea Party challengers, etc. Think about it - if you let a "socialist/independent" on the Democratic ticket just because they want to declare "I'm a Democrat", then any libertarian, Tea Party candidate, Green candidate, or whatever could ALSO declare they were Democrats. Hell, you might have 45 Democrats?!?!

Regardless, they won't know if he's on the ballot or not before October or later.

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