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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:32 AM Jul 2015

Still trying to crash the gates. Got a foot in the gate before. Maybe two feet this time around.

In 2006 Jerome Armstrong and Markos of Daily Kos wrote a book called Crashing the Gate. I can't find my copy now, but I did find some excerpts from the New York Times then in 2006. Still pertinent, still at it.

The Deaniacs gave it a hell of a try in 04, but it just wasn't the time.

Many of us thought the 2008 election would get us further inside the gate, but it just didn't work out that way.

'Crashing the Gate'

Meanwhile, we've also been plagued by a Democratic Party unsure of itself, lacking the expression of any core principles, and devoid of any institutional machinery to develop and promote its agenda. Democrats have utterly failed to offer a compelling alternative to Bush and his Republican acolytes, oftentimes parroting Republican positions on any number of issues in the mistaken belief that it might help them capture centrist or independent voters. We saw that strategy fail in 2000, in 2002, and in 2004. But the Democratic Party-its leadership in Washington, D.C., its legions of campaign consultants and the single-issue groups that form its traditional base-has failed to learn lessons from these recurring losses. The party's stakeholders resist being dislodged from their entrenched positions of wealth and power. Even as a marginalized minority, they won't surrender their fiefdoms without a fight. Why risk their comfy little gigs and rackets in a bid for majority status when they've already got it so good?

The Democrats are content to wait for the Republicans to self-destruct so that they can become the default option. Sure, the ever-increasing scandals and mismanagement surrounding the Republican Party threaten to drown its near-term electoral chances. But Democrats can't be political vultures-winning only when there are rotting Republican carcasses to munch on. We need a party that can win on the strength of its own ideas and convictions. And we need to build our forces to match what the Republicans have on the political battlefield-in technology usage, in media access and resources, in research and message development, and in training and leadership efforts.

We cannot wait any longer for the Democratic Party to reform itself and lead us into a new era of electoral success. Those of us who became energized ever since Bush and his circle of fiends took over in 2000-the netroots, the grassroots, the progressive base of America-must act now to take back our party and our country. They may view us in D.C. as barbarians at the gate, but we are not armed with pitchforks and torches. Technology has opened up the previously closed realm of activist politics to riffraff like us. Whether the stagnant establishment wants it or not, the new progressive populist movement will reclaim the Democratic Party as the party of the people. Our message is simple: You can get out of the way or work with us. Trying to stop us is a losing proposition.

If only we could say, "To hell with the Democratic Party!" But part of the present American reality is that we live in a two-party system, and the Democratic Party is our only alternative. It's efficient-and expedient-to reform the existing party of the left, much as the conservative movement took over the Republican Party in the 1970s and converted it into the electoral powerhouse it is today.


There is someone else trying to bring change while still working within the party.

Great post today.

Bernie Sanders Is Crashing the Gates

A political revolution is coming.

It won't need a map, it’s been here before, it’s been everywhere before, it knows what the banksters have done, it knows what the politicians have done, it knows what the CEO's have done, it knows who the war profiteers are, who the hedge fund managers are, who the vulture capitalists are, it knows where those predators live, it knows where they all live, and it’s coming.

It's coming because ignorance is not strength, because corporations are not people, because money is not speech, it's coming because the propaganda of the corporate state never ceases, because the treachery of the bankers never ends, because the greed of the corporations is never sated, because corruption just keeps spreading like a virus through the bloodstream of corporate capitalism.

....We gave signing petitions a try, we gave calling our congressmen and senators a try, we gave more and better Democrats a try, we gave waiting for Hillary a try, we gave every one of those dead end roads a try. We've been there, we've done that, we've heard all the excuses, we've heard all the explanations, we've seen all the smoke and we've seen all the mirrors and we've seen how far down the rabbit hole goes.

....I don’t know when that populist storm is going to hit the Capital, I don‘t know which craven congressmen are going to grab their life-jackets first, I don’t know how high the We the People waves are going to get, but I know one thing, when that storm hits full force, it’s going to be much too big for those centrist sailors and their little boat.


Sometimes it seems like that gate will always remain closed to most of us. Some days things seem more hopeful.

And the diarist's words about Bernie's campaign impress me.

He's crashing the gates. Because someone has to. He's telling the truth about the fraud and deceit and corruption infesting this country's economic and political systems, and that truth is resonating across this entire nation. We’re seeing history being made. America is finally awakening after decades in the darkness of apathy and moral cowardice, the light of moral courage is finally shining, it's shining like a beacon everywhere Bernie Sanders campaigns.


The huge number of recommends there are indicative of just how many want inside those gates.

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Still trying to crash the gates. Got a foot in the gate before. Maybe two feet this time around. (Original Post) madfloridian Jul 2015 OP
Great piece, madflo. kath Jul 2015 #1
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #2
Thank you, my dear madfloridian... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #3
And you are most welcome... madfloridian Jul 2015 #8
What has happened since the Dean Scream in 2004? eridani Jul 2015 #4
Amazing post, eridani. madfloridian Jul 2015 #5
I'll repost here--things sink pretty fast in the Bernie forum eridani Jul 2015 #6
PM me a link when you do. madfloridian Jul 2015 #7
And that is a really great thing Kalidurga Jul 2015 #15
It is a good thing. madfloridian Jul 2015 #22
K&R... n/t AnotherDreamWeaver Jul 2015 #9
excellent grasswire Jul 2015 #10
.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #11
Post about the Madison rally in the comments... madfloridian Jul 2015 #12
It's long overdue. Paka Jul 2015 #13
He really is. madfloridian Jul 2015 #14
That's what the Democratic Establishment seem to forget.... Beagle One Jul 2015 #25
Yes, from all spectrums. madfloridian Jul 2015 #26
THANK YOU!!! nt antigop Jul 2015 #16
You know what's amazing? madfloridian Jul 2015 #27
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #17
Nice write ups. I must disagree with the comment about Dean, though. At this point, most of us merrily Jul 2015 #18
And this time the media is mostly ignoring so far. madfloridian Jul 2015 #19
I never pick the right terminology either. I didn't mean YOU were pretending. merrily Jul 2015 #20
The importance of Bernie.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #21
Actually, if that's how you remember it, you'd be inaccurate. By late June 2003 blm Jul 2015 #28
Why, thank you for conveying I am a lazyminded person pushing a false narrative that I prefer to the merrily Jul 2015 #29
You read it wrong - I was talking about media figures…. blm Jul 2015 #30
Love this post! Kick! FloriTexan Jul 2015 #23
Thank you. madfloridian Jul 2015 #24
I bet the Oligarch Rulers are scrambling to find some way to neutralize Sen Sanders. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #31
The thread I linked to DKos has 498 recommends. madfloridian Jul 2015 #32
heheh….same as it ever was. blm Jul 2015 #33
"seen every layer"...Yes. But I am still amazed. madfloridian Jul 2015 #34

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
10. excellent
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:25 AM
Jul 2015

....and I am proud to be on the right side of history. I love this part:

Our message is simple: You can get out of the way or work with us. Trying to stop us is a losing proposition.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
12. Post about the Madison rally in the comments...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jul 2015

I remember Dean 10,000 in one of the northwestern cities...I want to say Portland, but not sure.

From the comment at DKos:

10,000 - 13,000 people. A record! (19+ / 0-)

According to Politics USA, from 10,000 - 13,000 attendees are there on-site right now - a record for the largest crowd at a campaign event by a 2016 candidate in either party.

Haraldsson reports that the Sanders campaign received 13,000 RSVPs for the event. Veterans Memorial Coliseum holds 10,000 people inside, but the crowd is so large that the audio of Sanders’ speech is being pumped outside to the people who RSVPed, but can’t get in.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
14. He really is.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:45 AM
Jul 2015

I really liked what Dean said about him in a video I saw recently. He laughed and said people always underestimate Bernie. He also made it clear that his message resonated with Republicans and Indies also.

 

Beagle One

(56 posts)
25. That's what the Democratic Establishment seem to forget....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

that Bernie doesn't just attract the folks on their party, but from all spectrums, and that's key.

Even non-voters or disaffected voters have reason to get up and vote for Bernie.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
26. Yes, from all spectrums.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

In our group here locally during the Dean Campaign we had Republicans, Independents, Greens as well as Democrats. It was quite a group.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
27. You know what's amazing?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jul 2015

The post I linked to at DKos at this moment in time has 421 recs. The comparison is telling.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. Nice write ups. I must disagree with the comment about Dean, though. At this point, most of us
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:28 AM
Jul 2015

remember or have learned the jaw dropping way in which establishment media went after him. Pretending what happened to him happened because it just wasn't his time yet with voters is not going to get anyone anywhere, especially with the way establishment media has been treating Bernie.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
19. And this time the media is mostly ignoring so far.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jul 2015

Yes, I know what happened. Seems the terminology I pick is never quite right.

The media will play its role this time also considering the ownership by so few and the very powerful.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. I never pick the right terminology either. I didn't mean YOU were pretending.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jul 2015

I meant there has been a lot of pretending about Dean.

There have been a lot of explanations of what happened to Dean--too liberal, too centrist, too underfunded. etc.

He just wasn't the establishment's candidate for the Democratic Party's nomination.

And yes, the media is trying to leave Bernie's candidacy dead in its tracks, too. We can't let them.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
21. The importance of Bernie....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778896

Once again the insiders might start to hear the outsiders...if the media doesn't do another proverbial directional microphone play.

blm

(113,061 posts)
28. Actually, if that's how you remember it, you'd be inaccurate. By late June 2003
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jul 2015

Dean's campaign was given a press plane. The establishment Dems were actually NOT a big part in selecting the nominee, at all - they were paying lip service to 2004 because they were already working towards Hillary2008.

It seems many here forget that it was extremely difficult for any other candidate to even get press coverage because of the 'specter' created around Dean. Kerry was being told in Dec to drop out and establishment Dems made sure his funds were being dried up - had he been their 'choice' as so many Deaniacs claim, they would have directed funding towards his campaign to counter Dean's haul. They didn't. Kerry mortgaged his house to get enough funds to get through to Iowa caucus and then continued to do TRANSACTIONAL CAMPAIGNING - door to door, small event to small event, and with firefighters and veterans supporting him, on top of excellent debates back to back (Dean's last 2 performances at the debates before caucus were two of his worst - something many don't seem to remember) - Kerry prevailed in Iowa.

The bogus 'scream' came after the caucus results.

Just because a 'narrative' is popular doesn't make it true.

The press had the narrative that Dean was unbeatable in Iowa - they were covering up for THEMSELVES and their pisspoor primary coverage by pointing a finger at Dean post-caucus and blaming him for 'imploding' with that scream when it was apparent by December that Kerry's gains on the ground were rooted and deepening going into the final stretch.

Dean's real numbers people knew this. That is why Trippi didn't get on TV and whine about Iowa - he knew exactly what happened.

Lazyminded people who want to push a narrative they prefer instead of the more mundane truth aren't helpful, imo. I think Carmichael and guys like Kos, and even Armstrong, were covering their own @sses in their look back because they had helped push a narrative, too.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. Why, thank you for conveying I am a lazyminded person pushing a false narrative that I prefer to the
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jul 2015

truth. I believe that ends any discussion.

blm

(113,061 posts)
30. You read it wrong - I was talking about media figures….
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

who found it easier to push or defend narratives they created instead of dealing with the facts as they existed.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. I bet the Oligarch Rulers are scrambling to find some way to neutralize Sen Sanders.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

If they do, it may backfire on them. There is a vacuum that wants integrity in politics.

Great post. Thanks.

On edit, I forgot to include the Bernie bounce

blm

(113,061 posts)
33. heheh….same as it ever was.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

Come on, old buddy, we've seen every layer of DU that exists by now. ; )

It's apparent some of the newer members were still in school back then and less engaged. You and I were SO much a part of 2004 cycle and the machinations of the DNC's Clinton machine throughout that cycle and afterwards, that it is still very much part of our wiring - - - we're hard-wired, madflo. ; )

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