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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:35 AM Jul 2015

I Love You, Hillary Clinton

I have nothing bad to say about any of the other Democratic candidates, declared or undeclared. But after observing Hillary Clinton for almost half my life, as First Lady, then Senator, then Secretary of State, I have to say....

I still love you, Hillary Clinton.

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I Love You, Hillary Clinton (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 OP
I do NOT love Bernie Sanders. Bonobo Jul 2015 #1
"I want the Democratic Party to remember what it is supposed to be." RiverLover Jul 2015 #17
+ a brazillion. We need to kick the Third Wayers to the curb and get the Party to kath Jul 2015 #24
The Third Wayers are Democrats and will remain. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #30
I have fond memories of seeing her as first lady before I became aware that I was a political animal Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #2
HRC speaks to women. I expect her to follow Obama's lead on women's rights. 51%! freshwest Jul 2015 #3
Like the ones we slaughter in the Middle East? eridani Jul 2015 #6
I didn't say I loved anything. Another picture for you: freshwest Jul 2015 #9
Not all of us passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #10
Exactly. She doesn't 'speak to me', but Bernie does. I'm working hard to get Sanders elected! peacebird Jul 2015 #29
Thank you MissDeeds Jul 2015 #33
So the Clinton Foundation will return millions to human rights abuser countries? Divernan Jul 2015 #15
I don't become emotionally attached to politicians AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #4
Love her too! calimary Jul 2015 #5
Thanks for this. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #26
Yuck billhicks76 Jul 2015 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Jul 2015 #8
There's an old saying, "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #11
Thank You for Saying So rpannier Jul 2015 #12
Just had to add ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #14
I love our candidates too, the way I loved them in 2008. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #27
I grew to love her too. She was a very good first Lady and Senator, I respected and admired how Sunlei Jul 2015 #13
She will. Clinton did in 2008 and she will do it again, if called upon. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #28
Seems sort of creepy to me. 99Forever Jul 2015 #18
I love everyone. So does Clinton. We are one big family. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #19
I can't agree. 99Forever Jul 2015 #25
"I guess I'll never be a loyal fanboy." LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #32
Ahh, smilies. 99Forever Jul 2015 #34
I thought your declaration was quite precious, too LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #35
And Such vitriol you are receiving ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #20
I lovevher too and i don't care if people here don't like it. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #21
Someone who can openly embrace hifiguy Jul 2015 #22
K&R mcar Jul 2015 #23
Hillary is great, even the GOP realizes how great she is and they world rather have a DNC nominee Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #31

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
1. I do NOT love Bernie Sanders.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jul 2015

But I strongly want him to be the president of the US.

Even more than that, however, I want the Democratic Party to remember what it is supposed to be.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
17. "I want the Democratic Party to remember what it is supposed to be."
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:48 AM
Jul 2015

+ a million!!!

Can't adequately express how much I agree.

kath

(10,565 posts)
24. + a brazillion. We need to kick the Third Wayers to the curb and get the Party to
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

Stand up for the poor and working people again!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
2. I have fond memories of seeing her as first lady before I became aware that I was a political animal
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:42 AM
Jul 2015

The more political I became, the less new there was for me to love about her, but the first family always seems great to me. I even recall thinking the spectacle that Bush's family made at times only served to have Bush humanized ever so slightly to me. . . but the Democratic families always seem the most interesting and loved to me.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
6. Like the ones we slaughter in the Middle East?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:57 AM
Jul 2015

I sure don't love turning Libya into a chaotic shithole either.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
5. Love her too!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:15 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:09 AM - Edit history (3)

I remember when she was First Lady-Elect. I had this jaw-dropping moment of realization that - for the first time in my life there was actually going to be a First Lady to whom I could personally relate! They were all my mom's age and older, up til then. It is jolting as all-get-out when you suddenly realize that people your age are running for President. That really is a personal earth-shaker, lemme tellya! There's NOTHING that says "you're not a kid anymore" like that does!

It really rocked my world. Here was a President's wife with whom I actually had quite a bit in common. For the first time ever. I was more impressed, and emotionally gripped, by that even than I was by her husband. I found myself bristling against the wrong-winger attacks on her - almost as though they were also attacking ME!

What they were finding fault with and bitching about all the time was ME! They didn't approve of her speaking her mind? Well I spoke my mind a lot and I know my inlaws had to get used to that and my parents never completely understood me either. The term "career gal" was still kind of derogatory - as though, if you had more to say for yourself (and WANTED to say for yourself) than exclusively the wife/mother role, you were kind of an oddity, or scoffed at. NOT putting down the traditional wife/mother role, mind you. I've since done that, too. But when I was coming out of college that was pretty much still where a girl's journey led. Women, on average, did not have as many choices, and many more avenues were closed to them than is true now. But back then, the prevailing conventions were that the wife/mother role was still the be-all and end-all for women. Women went to college mainly to get their "MRS degree". Well, I wanted to express myself in other ways. Being a wife and/or mother was just one of many important and challenging and life-defining and soul-feeding goals available to me.

Heck, at one point, I was pretty well resolved that I did not want children. My career was tremendously satisfying to me at that time in my life, and my husband was thrilled for me and tremendously supportive. Besides, he too had a thriving career doing something he just loved, so he was right there with me philosophically. And I suspect he, too, wanted to pursue his own dreams for awhile before coming back down to earth and really settling down with the whole kids-and-family thing. I had other things I wanted to do, and felt I might be capable of doing. I had other contributions I wanted to make. I was in a position back in the 70s, just out of college, wherein I was doing my own VERY minor version of what Hillary was doing, and had been doing. Working professionally while also a mom, making headway in a male-dominated arena. Sometimes earning bigger paychecks than her husband, even being the main or sole breadwinner in the family. Yep, me too! Hillary was a few years older than me, but I still felt mighty close to her in age and relative experience, as well. Really amazing time. Things were changing, BIGTIME. The women's movement was in full flower by the time I got there and began to enjoy some of the benefits that women Hillary's age and older had fought so hard to win.

I identified like mad! Intimately so. I didn't appreciate it when people took umbrage because she said she wasn't just sitting at home making cookies and "standin' by mah man like Tammy Wynette." Well, I didn't EITHER! When her critics found fault with her all the time and didn't like that she kept her own name as a professional (I'd done that, too), and it wasn't what most women in the workforce did back then so it wasn't as easily accepted, I couldn't help but take it personally. It was hard NOT to take it personally. I'd been there myself. Indeed - when we tried to rent our first apartment after we got married, the rental office didn't want to rent to us because we had different last names and we couldn't convince them we were married. Even showed our wedding rings and that wasn't enough! They thought we were "living in sin" for fuck's sake.

I identified strongly with Hillary Clinton then, and I still do now. She's not perfect but I still think she's pretty damn terrific. And I think she'd make a great President. Certainly a great First Woman President. Unlike what the other side "offers," Hillary's no lightweight. Nor is she a flake. Or a bimbo. She's got every bit as much gravitas as any man - WAY MORE than anybody else on the other side has. She had me at 1992.

Response to billhicks76 (Reply #7)

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
12. Thank You for Saying So
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:55 AM
Jul 2015

It's nice that you put up a positive post
It's unfortunate that there are some here who have decided to take the low road
I have nothing against Hillary and wish her well
I am still supporting Bernie, but no hate from me
I do hope/wish more Sanders supporters show up to stand in support of other Democratic candidates, even if they are not their first choice in the primary

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
14. Just had to add ...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:54 AM
Jul 2015
too! Thanks so much for your post!

And I say this as a staunch Hillary supporter. But we have at least three great candidates so far - ALL of whom make me very proud to be Dem - ALL the way!

I almost pity the GOPers ... but not much! What total embarrassments!

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
27. I love our candidates too, the way I loved them in 2008.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015

I feel sorry for Republicans. How on earth does anyone decide to pick between the jokers they have offered the nation?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. I grew to love her too. She was a very good first Lady and Senator, I respected and admired how
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:28 AM
Jul 2015

she had to deal with her husbands failings without falling apart. Then how she had to deal with her first campaign primary, she was the first to be pummeled constantly by RW attack campaigns.

Her ability to not burn bridges in the D party & continue to stand with Obama. I think Obama saw the same drive & ambition in her- he had. They both dreamed & wanted to be president someday, their entire lives.

Her work with the O admin, her time as SOS. I don't know how she had the stamina to put up with those work hours! On top of everything a woman who had to meet with Global Leaders, many who didn't even have woman at all in their leadership governments.

The D-party is fortunate to have so many good presidential contenders. I'd vote for Mrs. Clinton if she wins the primary, or Sanders or even the others they're good for Americans too.

But if Sanders wins primary or any of the others win primary, they will need Mrs. Clinton to stand by their side during the election.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
28. She will. Clinton did in 2008 and she will do it again, if called upon.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jul 2015

That is what it means to be a Democrat.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
18. Seems sort of creepy to me.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jul 2015

Respect? Okay. Support? Great. Share a political philosophy with? Completely understandable.

But love someone I have no personal interactions with? That's weird to me. I guess I'll never be a loyal fanboy.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
19. I love everyone. So does Clinton. We are one big family.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jul 2015

If you start with that premise, then everything eventually falls into place.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
25. I can't agree.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:27 PM
Jul 2015

It dilutes the meaning of the word love to the point of being meaningless to me. But to each their own.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. Someone who can openly embrace
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015

a butcher like Henry Kissnger and call him a "defender of human rights" is beyond the pale of decency.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
31. Hillary is great, even the GOP realizes how great she is and they world rather have a DNC nominee
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

They can easily beat. Go, Hillary.

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