Yawn, another "horse race" corporate media ratings race per Dems . .

Bash away . .

Not translating into poll numbers, at least not yet.

...in the latest Iowa Q poll. 51% Clinton, 33% Sanders. At this point in time in '07, Iowa polls were 52% Clinton, 27% Obama.
No matter who wins the Dem nomination, they'll stand a good chance of beating the Republican nominee.

Do you have that information?

If Bernie can beat Clinton, he can beat any republican. The "he's unelectable" meme is just wishfull thinking by HRC supporters.

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...and place the Party under corporate control. Now we're taking it back. Don't worry, I'm sure you can find another corporatist party to vote for.

DADT? DOMA? Cuts to unemployment and welfare? Yea, everybody did well<rolleyes>

Left wing loser? The Dems . . . You sound suspiciously right wing.

wrong to characterize him as left wing. He is definitely a liberal, believes in Social Security and Medicare, progressive on labor issues, progressive on health care for all and education, and believes in a more equitable tax structure.

As far as foreign policy, Bernie would be be considered a liberal on some issues, and moderate on others. Bernie is very pro-Israel, for a two state solution, but does not like the policies of Netanyahu, and would prefer to deal with the Labor party in Israel. Bernie was against our invasion of Iraq, if for the Iranian negotiations, etc.

In other words 95% of Bernie's position are standard Democratic policies.

I know people like to contrast the various Democratic candidates, and DU has their favorite, but the Democratic candidate's positions are well within 80% of each other.

Haven't seen any yet, and what happens if Bernie does overtake Clinton and wins the nomination - who's the sacrificial lamb for the GOP?

and the 14th one is coming in two weeks...and that's Gollum.

Not so sure about that... that is why I am wondering about his polling against the clowns.... ie sacrificial lambs.

and what's more, it just barely started...

that she beats every single republican by double digits.

I guess I will have to wait to see a poll result that it can be compared to for Bernie.

How did that turn out, again?

Bernie aint Barack Obama.

He will NEVER be elected to the presidency of the United States. Never.

that's for damn sure.

... Which will boost his numbers even higher, once voters know him.

You think a disgruntled Obama slice of the party is going to elect Sanders President of the US?

I don't think that group is large enough, unless you throw in repugs, but I doubt many would throw their lot in with Bernie.

From real people. I guess all the FB likes Hillary bought were wasted money.

did you see the post from CNN Politics about Sanders town hall in WI last night? The comments there show just how enthusiastic people are about this guy. That's why I just laugh at The Very Sensible People, and their references to The Real World™. Okay, so the couple dozen or so conservative Democrats in your circle of friends are all in for Clinton, and that's reflective of the attitude in the real world?

Right...that's what was being said about the Black Guy.

think what Bernie can do with the numbers --- it'd be a landslide not seen since Mondale got his ass kicked, but this time it'd be Bernie getting all 50 states.

then he annihilates whoever emerges from that klown kar. If Clinton wins, then Millenials bail, and the baggers mobilize.

They are VERY afraid of him. They do not want to acknowledge him, so they will not ask questions where "Bernie Sanders" is a possible answer.
Plainly and simply corporations do not want to see Bernie run. Mrs. Clinton would be a very good candidate, and corporations will run polls with her name because she will help corporations, and takes donations from them. On the other hand Bernie does not take corporate donations. He only takes corporations from WE THE PEOPLE. Yes, he takes contributions from unions, which are not the same as corporations. Corporations are run by a small cadre of people, whereas union officials are elected by the workers, and therefore are more democratic.

That's not surprising.

It's the candidate who leads the Democratic pack that will face the Republicans in November 2016.

I have never seen such a weak bunch of Republican hopefuls in my entire life. There isn't a one of them who can win over either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion.

So Hillary or Bernie, we will win in November 2016. The Republican Party has gone too far to the right and has left the majority of Americans way behind.

That Donald Trump is polling second among Republican contenders on any planet in the universe tells the story. Donald Trump has to be one of the least capable, least experienced, least articulate, least thoughtful, least attractive (even just physically, ugghhh!) individuals on earth. Selfish, mean, angry, spoiled, greedy, corrupt, foolish, uneducated, dare I say it -- ugly -- and he comes in second?

On edit and as an aside, might I add a bit of amateur psychological analysis here (just for fun). At a time of high unemployment and economic insecurity that was hurting a lot of Americans and their families -- really hurting them, Donald Trump starred as a boss who took great pleasure in firing people -- ruining some of their lives we can assume, belittling them, playing the sadistic boss on NATIONAL TV. WHAT KINDS OF MASOCHISTS are backing him. In that program, he represented the epitome of what is wrong in the American workplace -- the cruelty, the disregard for human value, the refusal to train and educate, to reward and encourage. How can any decent American vote for him, for a person with his instinct to crush others. It's beyond me. And back to my amateur psychologist persona, I think it suggests that a lot of Americans have no courage or self-esteem or healthy sense of self at all. Very sad.

So much for the runner-up among Republicans at this time -- Donald Trump.

The Republicans offered Sarah Palin as VP in 2008 and now regret it, I'm sure. But this time, they have a whole bunch of Sarah Palins and worse to choose from. I don't think they will go far. We could nominate an old hat (Hillary anyone? She's been in the game for a couple of rounds now), and we could beat any Republican that is running. They are that weak

If Hillary can best that bunch, think of what Sanders will be able to do by November 2016.

is going to be an easy campaign, regardless of what the polls say this far out. There is no way the republicans are going to choose trump, paul, or cruz, though that would a Democratic dream candidate to go against. Most likely it will be Jeb Bush. Whoever, the republicans choose they are going to portray him as a moderate, even though we know exactly where they stand, the general public are not that aware, but they will definitely be able to tell you anything you want about the Kardashians. That will be the challenge of the Democratic nominee, not only to get the message out, but to make it very clear exactly where their republican candidate stands on the issues. Issues, where they have left a trail that they cannot run away from.

Getting coverage from the MSM will be a big challenge also, but the Democrats have to do it

He will be most effective in calling out the Republican candidates on their stances on issues like health insurance, Social Security, education, etc.

Many, many Republican voters do not agree with the Republican Party on these key issues.

After all, the No Child Left Behind that resulted in all the testing that Republicans hate was a Bush I idea.

Problem is that Hillary (and on some issues Obama) is no better than these Republicans, no more on the side that most Americans find themselves than most Republicans.

We shall see about O'Malley. So far he is an unknown to most Americans including me. I hear mixed reviews on him. We shall see.

I watched a video of O'Malley. He had some good ideas but in his presentation was more in the Mondale, not dramatic enough category. He is sensible and intelligent, but I do not have the impression that he could stand up to a Ted Cruz in terms of charisma and getting his message across on an emotional level. Bernie can and does.

O'Malley needs to run for the Senate and get some experience there before running for president. That is my take.

Sanders keeps chipping away at that lead while Team Clinton is playing not to lose with the prevent D.

Good to now this "Hillary Clinton" person would be a good candidate. We'll keep her in mind in case Sanders dies.

What I don't understand is why the big lead? She's barely in the news and really isn't saying anything?

has heard of HRC.

Bernie, not so much. But despite that, Bernie's polling ahead of where Obama was in 2007 against HRC,

This is going to be like running the Virgin Mary for public office, lol.

candidates. Hillary is showing very well against every GOP candidate. She is strong and they know this also.

But I understand why some what to be on the side of the billionaires.