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Really? Clinton Ropes Press? (Original Post) earthside Jul 2015 OP
Electrified ropes Renew Deal Jul 2015 #1
they're free speech zones surrounded by freedom cables elehhhhna Jul 2015 #2
^^^This^^^ 99Forever Jul 2015 #42
No, but.. SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #88
Alert on it then. Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #124
I don't alert SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #160
And how do you view all the attempted smears against Bernie Sanders here? I view them sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #165
Is this thread discussing issues? SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #167
Still, bvar22 Jul 2015 #170
You may not consider a candidate for the Presidency acting in this manner an issue... 99Forever Jul 2015 #171
+1 jimlup Jul 2015 #114
+2 Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #156
It's a parade Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #3
Repuglican candidates? earthside Jul 2015 #6
It is really simple, maybe some do not understand once a candidate announces they receive protection Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #48
Bernie does not have that Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #52
Why the Benghazi and email questions over and over? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #87
mostly because she avoids the press Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #91
Protection? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #54
Is it protection from getting "cake" thrown at her? Common people are eating cake these days. L0oniX Jul 2015 #60
You should know there is protection, your answers are not funny. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #98
Actually they're quite funny LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #169
I too have serious issues over Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #62
As iI said earlier, she gave the press some time to ask questions and these are the questions they Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #101
She receives protection as the spouse of a former president, Duckhunter is correct, the primary Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #90
OK, I'll give you that passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #102
Body guard service can be obtained. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #110
So Wallstreet is paying for her armed guards? ...cause if you didn't know Bernie is also running... L0oniX Jul 2015 #57
This is the link to pretection services: Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #97
No candidates in the primaries do not get protection... ms liberty Jul 2015 #71
I corrected in Post#87 Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #106
Actually, you corrected it in post #90, and with a link in #97. ms liberty Jul 2015 #113
The Candidate does NOT receive Secret Service Protection until.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2015 #89
I corrected this in post #87. I am sure if she wanted to hire bodyguards extra she is free to do so Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #108
Actually if you look hard enough you will see the two agents blending in... Historic NY Jul 2015 #157
+100000000 Little Star Jul 2015 #128
Yeah, people get "villified" for the slightest infraction.. or simply tell it like it is. Cha Jul 2015 #117
Shades of Bush's First Amendment Zone.. Bellower Jul 2015 #4
Sad, really sad. n/t sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #5
The corporate media roped in? Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #7
The way 'progressives' relate to the 'corporate media' these days is hysterical. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #17
Boom! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author moobu2 Jul 2015 #47
True that. n/t charlyvi Jul 2015 #55
How about the fact that she is still avoiding questions Bellower Jul 2015 #68
Thom Hartmann? LOL wyldwolf Jul 2015 #70
What's wrong with Hartmann? Too liberal enough for you? Bellower Jul 2015 #73
nope. But using him as an example of Sanders talking to the press is like... wyldwolf Jul 2015 #75
No, Bernie talks to real people Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #92
screened and Sanders-friendly people wyldwolf Jul 2015 #95
Not always Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #104
staged and/or handpicked. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #129
No, they are not Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #130
yes they are. That is how talk radio works wyldwolf Jul 2015 #131
Not all talk radio does that Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #133
ALL talk radio does that. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #134
Let me be more precise Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #136
All call in shows screen for content wyldwolf Jul 2015 #137
Even if that is true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #138
It's absolutely true wyldwolf Jul 2015 #139
And not one word on content Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #141
that's what call 'screening' does. Hartmann is just another talk radio host wyldwolf Jul 2015 #142
No Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #143
Yes - from a DUer who couldn't get past Hartmann's screener because of 'content.' wyldwolf Jul 2015 #144
Hartmann himself discussing how his screeners screen content wyldwolf Jul 2015 #145
Just like I said Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #146
Two sources - one Hartmann himself - says he screens for content. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #147
Thanks for confirming what he does Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #148
which contradicts what you said he does. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #149
not really Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #151
Really. Definitely. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #153
It is clear, wyldwolf, that you never listen to Hartmann, or Brunch with Bernie, bvar22 Jul 2015 #168
lmfao! frylock Jul 2015 #8
Guess she can't get to close to the Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #9
Too funny! Bernie is the real deal, that's for sure. A true man of the people. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #10
Did you read the article? The rope allowed "real people" access to her. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #18
'Progressives' aren't interested in silly facts like that. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #19
sure they did, lol Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #24
It didn't protect her from the press. It created space so people could approach her. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #31
People could have approached her.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2015 #93
Seen what done before? OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #37
Not to mention that being a former Sec of State might heighten concerns and if Gloria Jul 2015 #103
That is just sick Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #105
No, it is not Sick...when you Gloria Jul 2015 #109
So link to one post Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #111
Re-read my comment Gloria Jul 2015 #115
So what does this mean? To me it is just over the top and sick!! Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #118
You must be dense... Gloria Jul 2015 #122
Nice insult, I feel sorry for you Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #127
Read again Gloria Jul 2015 #132
people on DU who woud be fine with a physical attack on Clinton... Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #140
+ MILLION! Cha Jul 2015 #116
The New Hampshire Republican Party denounced "the use of a rope line to protect the arrogant Cha Jul 2015 #119
Happy 4th, Cha! SunSeeker Jul 2015 #120
Let's the secret service do its job. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #11
Too bad the news reported Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #14
Now, little FACTS like that.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2015 #96
I actually think foundly of Hillary but she surrounds herself with ignorant pigs olddots Jul 2015 #12
So Bernie events don't have rope lines? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #13
They do not rope people out Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #15
Rather evasive. I'll ask again. Think before answering. So Bernie events don't have rope lines? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #16
of course they do Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #20
This rope was for the press Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #23
I did and saw the news Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #27
So you are being deliberately obtuse? Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #35
The rope was used to keep the media away so 'the people' had access to her. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #26
!!! zappaman Jul 2015 #32
what do they use it for? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #28
hey duckhunter, what does the Sanders campaign use rope lines for? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #30
not what Hillary uses a rope for Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #38
It was EXACTLY the same thing. You're not reading the article wyldwolf Jul 2015 #39
And what you just posted is not true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #58
It is exactly true. Are your really saying a 'rope line' isn't a physical rope?? wyldwolf Jul 2015 #69
More likely they Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #72
you keep changing directions. Funny to watch. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #76
I don't see any people there either~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #49
Well the picture of Hillary Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #51
OMG sheshe2 Jul 2015 #74
well I could be wrong I guess Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #81
No rope- and no people, lol. bettyellen Jul 2015 #53
The other day he had three thousand Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #64
It's just that picture- would have been hilarious with ropes... bettyellen Jul 2015 #67
LOL.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2015 #99
Couldn't let press record her dodging unscripted/unscreened questions/comments Divernan Jul 2015 #21
And if the Republicans ever did that Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #159
The way this article is being spun by 'progressives' is like "Repuglican-type clown behavior." wyldwolf Jul 2015 #22
If this was Ted Cruz campaign behavior ... earthside Jul 2015 #29
No they wouldn't wyldwolf Jul 2015 #33
Yes they would. 840high Jul 2015 #86
I have no idea if other candidates use ropes or not Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #34
Bingo! MissDeeds Jul 2015 #65
Lovely of Ms. Williams to quote... OilemFirchen Jul 2015 #25
LMAO LittleBlue Jul 2015 #36
However you try to spin it, that did not look good. It was laughable. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #40
Here's another article that describes it a bit differently Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #41
the difference is it doesn't inject Republican spin that some DUers are happy to regurgitate. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #43
These people are really making themselves look ridiculous Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #44
Don't worry people are tweeting out the truth which I just retweeted underthematrix Jul 2015 #59
Why didn't they just ask the reporters to give her some space? Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #125
When I attended Bernie's rally sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #45
The rope lines were so that the press would not interfere with her talking to people OKNancy Jul 2015 #50
maybe-- but the optics are TERRIBLE Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #56
There wouldn't be any "optics" if people didn't pick on every fucking thing she does. OKNancy Jul 2015 #61
+1000 charlyvi Jul 2015 #63
And her and her handlers Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #66
At this point Sanders welcomes all the press he can get Beaverhausen Jul 2015 #77
Oh it is not hard at all Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #83
that's part of a presidential campaign Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #79
That's her own fault! Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #82
If she thinks THIS is bad (and she probably doesn't), she's going to be unpleasantly Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #150
Those are so cool Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #152
Usually, the best part of any parade, in my opinion. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #155
Brilliant! Just brilliant!! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #78
Hilarious! SoapBox Jul 2015 #80
after reading part of this thread.... quickesst Jul 2015 #84
Pissing on the press? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #85
She's still a former First Lady yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #94
See Reply..... LovingA2andMI Jul 2015 #100
Yet...immediately forgotten Sheepshank Jul 2015 #112
FOX-type poutrage. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #107
Meanwhile, Al Jazeera showed HRC walking down the street, shaking hands with Gloria Jul 2015 #121
The goal of the rope was not to "keep her from the press" brooklynite Jul 2015 #158
Yup... Gloria Jul 2015 #162
A media corral! Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #123
Just supply all candidates with a Popemobile and be done with it. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #126
But then she wouldn't be able to meet the voters...like she's doing here: brooklynite Jul 2015 #164
Anti-Hillary? Heck, no. No more than any other politician. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #166
This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Jul 2015 #135
Nah HassleCat Jul 2015 #154
So is the corporate media good or bad today? I'm confused. Metric System Jul 2015 #161
Bernie is not afraid of the people or the press: sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #163
 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
124. Alert on it then.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:00 AM
Jul 2015

DU is just getting warmed up, this is pretty tame. And Hillary is not only out of touch, but secretive - she clearly did not want the reporters to hear and report on her answers to constituents' questions. Would Bernie have minded? I think not. When you always tell the truth you don't have to worry so much about how your responses to questions will be reported and what difficulties it may cause you.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
165. And how do you view all the attempted smears against Bernie Sanders here? I view them
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jul 2015

as a Bernie supporter as chance to talk about his excellent record. Politics is a dirty game, I expected these attacks so all I do is post OPs that tell the FACTS rather than kick threads that are lying about my candidate.

I don't like any of it, frankly, and if I were you, I would start another OP and answer anything you consider to be a false claim against the candidate you support there.

If you have facts to counter smears and lies then there is nothing to worry about, it's just an opportunity to promote your candidate.

Think how much better campaigns would be if everyone just talked about issues.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
167. Is this thread discussing issues?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jul 2015

Or is it comparing a Hillary Clinton campaign event to a Republican/ George Bush event? Yeah, that is really advancing the discussion in a positive manner.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
170. Still,
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

...if this is true, and the Press was either forbidden to attend, or forced into a corral,
it is worth discussion.
Civil Liberties IS a big issue.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
171. You may not consider a candidate for the Presidency acting in this manner an issue...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jul 2015

... and that is certainly your opinion, but there are MANY of us that do. It's being compared to a Republican/ George Bush event, BECAUSE it has a striking resemblance to what happened then. It says something quite relevant in MANY of our opinions as to Clinton's fitness to represent us as Democrats.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
3. It's a parade
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jul 2015

Not a press conference.

I'm sure I'll be vilified for saying this, but come on. This is petty.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. Repuglican candidates?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jul 2015

I've never heard of even Repuglican candidates using a tactic like this.

Perhaps this is a minor event ... I'm not sure about "petty".

This kind of condescension towards the press is not something I expect in a Democratic candidate for the nomination.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
48. It is really simple, maybe some do not understand once a candidate announces they receive protection
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jul 2015

Why do they receive protection? RFK was killed while campaigning. George Wallace was shot while campaigning. Other declared candidates also gets protection.

Why doesn't the press get more access, because the questions about Benghazi and emails are stupid over and over questions.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
52. Bernie does not have that
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jul 2015

I might be wrong but I do not think they all get protection yet. She does by her being a previous First Lady. If she would do answer to the press once and awhile, those questions would go away. How many press questions has she taken since she announced? Maybe a dozen in these months?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
91. mostly because she avoids the press
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jul 2015

I saw one about Trump she avoided today on ABC news site. She was asked a question as she made an unscheduled stop for pie.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
54. Protection?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jul 2015

They don't seem to be holding anyone back but the press.

However I do agree with the petty comment. This is a parade, not a place to hound the candidate with questions.

The the Benghazi protestors? Yes, that is republican nonsense. The e-mail issue may not be, but Benghazi is so over. I don't believe for a minute that Clinton did anything wrong regarding Benghazi. I do wish however, that her emails regarding her job were all in the public domain.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
169. Actually they're quite funny
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jul 2015

That is, if you enjoy comments that read like satire.

"regular folks are eating a lot of cake these days."

Oh good gracious...

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
62. I too have serious issues over
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jul 2015

The email. More problems are slowly coming out over that issue. Benghazi is so over and she did nothing wrong. Even in the article they are pushing in this thread, she only stopped to talk to wounded marine. She did not even acknowledge the supporters that tried to drown out the protesters. She needs to open up to the press and answer every question they can possibly ask. They will get tired and stop. They hound her now because she is never available to them. She ropes them off and then runs away.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
101. As iI said earlier, she gave the press some time to ask questions and these are the questions they
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015

Ask. Perhaps if they would ask different questions she would answer some or divert back to the answers she wants to give. The emails are proving some interesting points and revealing where was on certain issues for a while.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
90. She receives protection as the spouse of a former president, Duckhunter is correct, the primary
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jul 2015

Candidates do not receive protection unless they are in the protection group and major candidates gets 120 days of protection in before the general election.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
57. So Wallstreet is paying for her armed guards? ...cause if you didn't know Bernie is also running...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:19 PM
Jul 2015

without Wallstreet guards.

ms liberty

(8,601 posts)
71. No candidates in the primaries do not get protection...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jul 2015

The party's nominees each get protection, when they become their party's nominee.. Obama got protection earlier because of the unprecedented number of violent and credible threats he was receiving during the primaries, IIRC. Hillary has protection as a former First Lady.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
89. The Candidate does NOT receive Secret Service Protection until....
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jul 2015

AFTER they win the primaries. Now in Hillary's Case, she might have Secret Service Protection as a former First Lady but, they would have walked beside her, minus the "rope line" and the parade would have had small barriers between her and the parade goers.

Anytime she walked over the shake a hand or kiss a baby, the Secret Service would have been RIGHT beside her. This is NOT what's displayed by this picture. It appears to be a "Queen" too proper to mingle with the common-folks.

Not a good look at all.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
108. I corrected this in post #87. I am sure if she wanted to hire bodyguards extra she is free to do so
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

You know she has sat down with people and talked to them. I never posted or thought she should receive coronation but I have read where others say this. Just another myth.

 

Bellower

(52 posts)
4. Shades of Bush's First Amendment Zone..
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jul 2015

It'll be further and further for the press for Clinton as she wants to avoid the national eye and leave everyone (except the 1%) guessing on what she stands for.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
17. The way 'progressives' relate to the 'corporate media' these days is hysterical.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jul 2015

6 days a week they're the evil right wing corporate media. When Hillary does something like use a rope line to keep them back, they're 'real people.'

Response to wyldwolf (Reply #17)

 

Bellower

(52 posts)
68. How about the fact that she is still avoiding questions
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jul 2015

that still needs to be answered, or hit the talk shows ready to defend her record.

She is purposefully avoiding M$M - Bernie embraces it. That tells me exactly the kind of person I want, especially when one is a master of dealing with Republican-aligned talk shows...

And he invites people to ask questions every Friday on Thom Hartmann's show - Brunch with Bernie.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
75. nope. But using him as an example of Sanders talking to the press is like...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jul 2015

... George W. Bush going on FOX News circa 2003.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
92. No, Bernie talks to real people
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:12 PM
Jul 2015

who call in and ask questions. The amazing thing is he actually answers them, does not filibuster or change the subject like most politicians. I do not think Hillary does that every week though.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
136. Let me be more precise
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jul 2015

As that seems to be what it takes to have a conversation with you. The calls are screened to get name and locations but not all call in shows screen for content. I can figure that out from the many times I have listened and heard the callers on the opposite side of the issues call in.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
138. Even if that is true
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jul 2015

As ALL is impossible to verify. At least some allow all pertinent questions to be asked, like what happens with brunch with Bernie. I give him credit. I am sure Hillary does that weekly too, right? Or is she scared to talk to the people like Bernie does every week.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
141. And not one word on content
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jul 2015

Not to mention you said ALL talk shows. Sorry but you are not always correct.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
144. Yes - from a DUer who couldn't get past Hartmann's screener because of 'content.'
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6228385

Thom Hartmann's screener wouldn't let me on with an opinion as to why Hillary should NOT be VP

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
145. Hartmann himself discussing how his screeners screen content
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jul 2015
Thom Hartmann: We talk about the issues of the day... If we're talking about the impeachment of George Bush, and somebody calls and wants to talk about café grill standards, I typically don't take that call. Our call screener will suggest to them that they call back when we're talking about that topic.

http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/thom-hartmann--air-americas-renaissance-man-talk-show-host/2287-thom-hartmann--air-americas-renaissance-man-talk-show-host
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
146. Just like I said
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

Thanks for the confirmation. The only screwing is to be on TOPIC, not the content of the callers questions. Sounds like you might not have been on topic.

Since there is nothing I can state that you will agree with and I have yard work to do, have a great day!

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
147. Two sources - one Hartmann himself - says he screens for content.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jul 2015

You're spinning and twisting in the wind.

Duckhunter935 at 9:44AM: The calls are screened to get name and locations but not all call in shows screen for content.
Duckhunter935 at 10:20AM: The only screening is to be on TOPIC, not the content of the callers questions.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
148. Thanks for confirming what he does
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jul 2015

and what I said again, even Hartmann himself states he screens to ensure the content is on TOPIC. Too bad it seems you have a problem your call was not allowed due to it not being on TOPIC.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
151. not really
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

As I have always said, he allows callers that are on topic to speak to Bernie weekly even if they do not agree with him on the issues. This is quite unlike queen Hillary, who thinks she is above the common people and with wall street and was just passing the time till the coronation.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
153. Really. Definitely.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jul 2015
As I have always said, he allows callers


WHEN have you 'always' said that? Last two minutes or so?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
168. It is clear, wyldwolf, that you never listen to Hartmann, or Brunch with Bernie,
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jul 2015

....or you would be better informed.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
9. Guess she can't get to close to the
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015

Real people like Bernie. Needs those freedom cables to protect her.

SunSeeker

(51,728 posts)
18. Did you read the article? The rope allowed "real people" access to her.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jul 2015

They put that rope up after a while to keep the press gaggle 10' away so she could interact with the crowd. I assume she didn't want to walk the whole parade surrounded by a circle of reporters. The rope did not keep the "real people" away from her, nor was it there to "protect her" from "real people." Sheesh.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
24. sure they did, lol
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jul 2015

what do you think they were going to say. Now I guess it is to protect her from the evil press. Funny where have I seen that done before?

SunSeeker

(51,728 posts)
31. It didn't protect her from the press. It created space so people could approach her.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jul 2015

People in the crowd could be intimidated by a press camera and mic being shoved in their face.

The press have mics that can pick up conversation from well over 10' away. Sounds like these press people were not very professional or not prepared.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
93. People could have approached her....
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:12 PM
Jul 2015

Without the unnecessary rope. All she had to do is act like every other candidate in a parade and walk over to folks to greet them on the sidelines or sidewalk.

Her "Protectors" could have walked right beside her the whole way ensure both the parade goer and candidate were "free" of the press.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
37. Seen what done before?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jul 2015

Calling the press "evil"?

Pretty much every second somewhere on DU.

Are they now angels of mercy?

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
103. Not to mention that being a former Sec of State might heighten concerns and if
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jul 2015

something occurred, the press could be in danger, too ....The Secret Service has to tightly control these kinds of events as much as possible....and it wasn't supposed to be a press conference...could you think people running around with mikes all over the place creating confusion? Do you think today's media would actually be able to control themselves without some organization??

This petty crap is getting old...people need to stop the automatic carping and grow up!

I'm beginning to think there are people on DU who woud be fine with a physical attack on Clinton...

Ugh! Mature people would be content with being happy their chosen candidate is doing well without resorting to ill will toward someone who shares MANY of the same views...

I'd like to know if Bernie is aware of the crap he is attracting among his supporters...

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
105. That is just sick
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jul 2015

No one on here wants her attacked. The reason they try and ask her questions is she almost never has press conferences. When she did a while back she too what, a total of about 6 questions?

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
109. No, it is not Sick...when you
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

see irrational hostility going in constantly and comments about other politicians that get pretty out of hand...nothing would surprise me anymore...NOTHING!

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
111. So link to one post
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:45 PM
Jul 2015

Wishing harm to her, bet you can't. And yes to accuse DU members of that is indeed sick.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
115. Re-read my comment
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jul 2015

Again, twisting what is wondered about.

So like what Republicans like to do...

I'm getting less and less and impressed with some Bernie supporters.




 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
118. So what does this mean? To me it is just over the top and sick!!
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:21 AM
Jul 2015
I'm beginning to think there are people on DU who woud be fine with a physical attack on Clinton...


Is that not your post and your words? What exactly do you mean by them?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251425090#post103

103. Not to mention that being a former Sec of State might heighten concerns and if
something occurred, the press could be in danger, too ....The Secret Service has to tightly control these kinds of events as much as possible....and it wasn't supposed to be a press conference...could you think people running around with mikes all over the place creating confusion? Do you think today's media would actually be able to control themselves without some organization??

This petty crap is getting old...people need to stop the automatic carping and grow up!

I'm beginning to think there are people on DU who woud be fine with a physical attack on Clinton...

Ugh! Mature people would be content with being happy their chosen candidate is doing well without resorting to ill will toward someone who shares MANY of the same views...

I'd like to know if Bernie is aware of the crap he is attracting among his supporters...

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
122. You must be dense...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:31 AM
Jul 2015

Haven't you been aware of instigators who go one step too far and incite aggressive behavior???

Think about certain Democratic Convention history...and many other times not directly related to Democratic politics...
Hell, Obama's staffers were grabbing cardboard Hillary...what did that reflect?????

Things have already started getting ugly...who knows where the path goes in this lovely political world we are in?..

Get a clue, I'm done with this...


 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
127. Nice insult, I feel sorry for you
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:26 AM
Jul 2015

Since you are the one accusing DU members would like for Hillary to get attacked. No proof from you and you really should edit YOUR statement or delete YOUR statement. That is way over the top and is just disgusting in my opinion. You can not link to one instance of what you stated and just continue with more insults, very sad.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
132. Read again
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jul 2015

I did not say people have expressed a desire for physical attack...

I am merely speculating that at some point I wouldn't be surprised if there were some who might not be disapointed if it happened...secretly, deep down..

You think all at DU sre saints? No extemists or trolls??

Why are you so indignant when there is history to look at, including misogyny from a recent Democratic campaign??? None of us know what is hidden in people...

Think about the far extremes and how they meet in many ways...

You have no reason to be insulted if you think about the undercurrents in this society at large

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
140. people on DU who woud be fine with a physical attack on Clinton...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jul 2015

Your words, sick and no place here in my opinion

Cha

(297,733 posts)
119. The New Hampshire Republican Party denounced "the use of a rope line to protect the arrogant
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015
Democrat frontrunner on a public street."

the NH Republicon party aren't the only ones "denouncing" this..


Philip Rucker
✔ ?@PhilipRucker
So many people trying to get close to Hillary her aides are using a rope to keep press at distance
8:22 AM - 4 Jul 2015 39 39 Retweets
21 21 favorites

Ha! SunSeeker! Happy Fourth of July~


LuvLoogie

(7,036 posts)
11. Let's the secret service do its job.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jul 2015

The press was likely blocking interaction and protection.


The pettiness and hatred is really thick here.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
14. Too bad the news reported
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jul 2015

It was the Clinton campaign and not the secret service that came up with the stupid rope idea.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
96. Now, little FACTS like that....
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jul 2015

Are ignored to ensure Hillary does not seem "standoffish" but, in anyone besides her strong supporters view, she likely does. The MSM is going to have a field day with this picture on the Monday news cycle. Just saying....

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
20. of course they do
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jul 2015

but they do not use a rope to keep the candidate away from the people. Two separate things. I hope you now understand. I tried to make it as plain and simple as possible.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
26. The rope was used to keep the media away so 'the people' had access to her.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jul 2015

You didn't read the article.

So why did the Democratic presidential candidate’s campaign see fit to put up a rope line to keep reporters and photographers at bay while Clinton shook hands and greeted voters during an afternoon procession up Main Street?


But look who's spin you're buying:

The conservative news site Twitchy was clearly enjoying the spectacle... The New Hampshire Republican Party denounced "the use of a rope line to protect the arrogant Democrat frontrunner on a public street."




 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
38. not what Hillary uses a rope for
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jul 2015

In American political terminology, a politician "walking down the rope line" or "working the rope line" is shaking hands of his or her supporters and guests.


Sen. Sanders talks with @NPR's @AilsaChang during a 4th of July parade. See the story here:http://www.npr.org/2014/07/10/330193246/could-a-socialist-senator-become-a-national-brand

Look at this no rope in site AND he is talking to a reporter.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
39. It was EXACTLY the same thing. You're not reading the article
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jul 2015

PLUS in post 15 you said the Sanders campaign doesn't use Rope Lines to rope people out - now you admit they do.

You haven't read the article and are relying on Republican spin.

You're not very good at this.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
58. And what you just posted is not true
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:19 PM
Jul 2015

I will accept you apology. I stated correctly that "rope lines" is a political term to shake supporters hands along a route. I have stated that Hillary used. A physical "Rope" not "rope line". There is a difference, I expect you know that though.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
69. It is exactly true. Are your really saying a 'rope line' isn't a physical rope??
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jul 2015

Well, I guess sometimes It's a chain.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
51. Well the picture of Hillary
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015

I saw has no people other than staff and secret service protection. One picture is never the full story. I am sure you know that though.

sheshe2

(83,933 posts)
74. OMG
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

You know her staff by sight!? Please identify them for me so I will not be so confused in the future. I have watched, you do good google.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
64. The other day he had three thousand
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jul 2015

In the overflow area, Hillary had what about ten in her big second official kickoff announcement.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
67. It's just that picture- would have been hilarious with ropes...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jul 2015

Because no one was even on the sidelines,for fucks sake! Anyway this thread is ridiculous because DU hates the press. If abernie did the same thing to keep them away from him while he mingled with people, there'd be three threads about how awesome it was. What a bunch of crap.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
21. Couldn't let press record her dodging unscripted/unscreened questions/comments
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jul 2015

Our colleague Philip Rucker reports that initially the press had been able to get close to Clinton and observe and listen as she chatted up voters. Then he said campaign aides unfurled a rope that stretched across the street, blocking access to the candidate. Rucker said they were kept 10 to 15 feet away from Clinton and could no longer hear what she was saying to people.

But the press could clearly hear what some people were saying to her. A group of protesters followed her along the route shouting such sentiments as "What about Benghazi?" and "Show us your e-mails!"

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
159. And if the Republicans ever did that
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

the same people who are justifying the action with a "Democratic" candidate would be outraged!11!!!1!!

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. If this was Ted Cruz campaign behavior ...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jul 2015

... all Democrats, yes even Clinton supporters, would be opining about arrogance, condescension, stupid campaigning, etc.

But, of course, it is Mrs Clinton, so the tactic has to be justified and rationalized at all costs.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
34. I have no idea if other candidates use ropes or not
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jul 2015

At public events, I'm guessing it's a common practice if candidates are desirous of talking to people and not to members of the press.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
25. Lovely of Ms. Williams to quote...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jul 2015

Twitchy and the N.H. Republican Party.

How else would I know what to think about this?

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
41. Here's another article that describes it a bit differently
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/04/protesters-challenge-clinton-during-parade-in-new-hampshire/

"Mrs. Clinton’s aides, in what they said was an effort to allow voters to reach her freely without her being surrounded by a mass of reporters, kept the dozen journalists covering the event behind a length of rope carried by two campaign aides."

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
59. Don't worry people are tweeting out the truth which I just retweeted
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jul 2015

MSM was just trying to start some shit for the unread uninformed uneducated to inhale.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
125. Why didn't they just ask the reporters to give her some space?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:16 AM
Jul 2015

Was the physical barrier really necessary? Could they not have just politely asked the reporters to keep back 20 feet to allow her to mingle? The rope was a bad idea, it just reinforced negative stereotypes of her.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
45. When I attended Bernie's rally
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jul 2015

in Denver there were no ropes, but the media were
not there or visible.Nor did they show or mention
the event at all later. This may change though.

On the contrary, I was a bit worried with so many
people to see no security at all. It is good that HRC
has secret service protection, but with huge crowds
I would think other candidates should get some too.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
50. The rope lines were so that the press would not interfere with her talking to people
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jul 2015

They were pushing and getting in the way.
I have no idea if this is in this article, but that was in another I read.

However... ROPEGHAZI

I knew someone would make a big deal out of this... I know some asshole Republican did in the article I read.
Some people will do anything, no matter how low and trivial to smear Hillary Clinton.

-------

ETA: I see someone else posted the article I read up-thread.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/04/protesters-challenge-clinton-during-parade-in-new-hampshire/

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
77. At this point Sanders welcomes all the press he can get
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jul 2015

And Hillary, who is one of the most famous people in the world and has what can be described as a strained-at-best relationship with the press in the U.S., can try to keep them at arms length while she talks to voters.

why is this so hard to understand?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
83. Oh it is not hard at all
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:58 PM
Jul 2015

she thinks she is above being questioned and has nothing to gain. Bad optics and I think it will backfire.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
79. that's part of a presidential campaign
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:52 PM
Jul 2015

but it's true she gets picked on a lot, and about a lot of trivial things.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
82. That's her own fault!
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

The Clintons innovated a new style of politics so cynical that "parsing" became the popular fashion of the day, trying to wring a nugget of truth out of the web of deceptions that came out of both of them. This, as with the rest of her extensive inventory of baggage, is part of the poison you pick when you back her.

Even in the specific this situation is her own fault for starving the press of answers. It's crazy that a Presidential candidate won't take questions from the press for weeks at a time. As Truman noted, if you can't take the heat you should stay out of the kitchen.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
150. If she thinks THIS is bad (and she probably doesn't), she's going to be unpleasantly
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

surprised should she make it to the General Election. The repub's Mighty Wurlitzer is undergoing its scheduled maintenance, and they've already got tunes picked out for her, for Sanders, for O'Malley, for Chafee, and for anyone else who might dare run against their eventual drooling, staggering idiot of choice.

That said, the press are idiots. She's not going to reveal any great policy initiatives, her deepest feelings about Iraq or the TPP, or the secrets of the Rosicrucians during a one-and-a-half second handshake where the deepest the conversation will ever get is "How are you? Thanks for coming!"

They could cover her appearance (or any politician's appearance in a parade) from a helicopter, for all it matters. At least then, they'd have a good vantage point for when the candidate is accidentally run over by the Shriner's Mini-Cars when the candidate stops the parade to schmooze.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
155. Usually, the best part of any parade, in my opinion.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:19 AM
Jul 2015

Although, I admit, being landed on by the Underdog balloon would be worth at least a below-the-fold story in the NYT.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
84. after reading part of this thread....
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:58 PM
Jul 2015
....I think the clown car has some serious competition as to the Clinton hatred. I say, keep it up. Democrats won't be too eager to vote for a candidate when they see the wheels coming off his supporters version of their own clown car.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
112. Yet...immediately forgotten
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:46 PM
Jul 2015

Perhaps on purpose for expediency sake...or maybe some are responding without reading through the thread?

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
121. Meanwhile, Al Jazeera showed HRC walking down the street, shaking hands with
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jul 2015

bystanders, one after one, with no rope in sight nor any mention of one....because it was not the main story..

So screw the WaPo, Repukes, and the over reaction in this thread...

Such bullshit...

brooklynite

(94,746 posts)
158. The goal of the rope was not to "keep her from the press"
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jul 2015

...it was to keep the press from intruding too closely to where she was meeting with actual voters, which was the purpose of the parade. I've worked with the press before, and the cameramen can get "pushy"...

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
162. Yup...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jul 2015

But some like to parrot Republicans in their zealous support for another candidate....exasperating..

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
126. Just supply all candidates with a Popemobile and be done with it.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:43 AM
Jul 2015

They could have picked up one cheap from the Vatican a little while ago.

At a reasonable price (discounts for weekly/monthly rental), they can rent a CandidateMobile from the US Government livery. Flashing lights, "Look At ME!" signs, and press-deflecting tear gas canisters may be affixed, but must be removed upon return. Available for all political campaigns, federal, state, and local.

For those of more modest means, we also offer the "CandidateCycle" (driver not included):

brooklynite

(94,746 posts)
164. But then she wouldn't be able to meet the voters...like she's doing here:
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jul 2015


and here:



And you'll notice by the way, there are no reporters trying to ask her questions...just cameramen who are still getting their shots.

You may now resume your anti-Hillary diatribe...

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
166. Anti-Hillary? Heck, no. No more than any other politician.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jul 2015

The CandidateMobile (tm) actually serves two useful purposes: It protects THEM from US, and it protects US from THEM (especially if you lock them from the outside).

T.Rump has already contracted for three of them for his personal parades: one for him, one for his ego, and one for his hair. I think the one with his hair will attract the most interest.

Response to earthside (Original post)

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
154. Nah
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jul 2015

It's just normal stuff. The media have decided she's the next president, so they're all over her every minute of every day. She has to draw the line, or hold the rope, somewhere. She's campaigning, and she can't let the media clog up her access to the public, and the public's access to her.

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