2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYouth Flocking to Sanders Because 'You're Right, Bernie, You're Right!'
If you're wondering why the campaign continues to build momentum and attract big crowds, one person among the many thousands in Portland shouted his answer.Continuing to draw large and enthusiastic crowds wherever he goes, Sen. Bernie Sanders attracted approximately 9,000 people to a downtown sports arena in Portland, Maine on Monday evening as throngs of peoplewith a noticeable presence of students and young adultswaited for more than an hour in a line that stretched around the building in order to hear the presidential candidate's populist message.
Though the campaign only put the number at 7,500 in the crowd, those familiar with buildingwhich was filled to capacityplaced the number well over 9,000. Though not quite so many as the record crowd of 10,000 that turned out in Madison, Wisconsin the week before, many noted that the coastal New England city of Portland has less than half the population. And with other big turnouts recently in Iowa, Colorado, and elsewherethis is becoming the new normal for the campaign.
"In case you didnt notice, this is a big turnout," Sanders told the excited crowd as he took the podium. A longtime political observer in the state told this writer that never in his long history of attending rallies in the statefrom Barack Obama to Bill Clinton to Jimmy Carterdid he ever see such an enormous showing for a presidential candidate at this stage of the campaign seasonor possibly ever.
On the topic of the energy his campaign is generating, Sanders continued his speech by saying that national media outlets are increasingly asking him: "Well, Bernie, Why are so many people coming to your events? Why have hundreds of thousands of people in every state in this country volunteered to play a role in the campaign? Why have 250,000 people made small donations to the campaign? Why are grassroots organizations popping up all over America?"
And at that moment, a young man in the crowd shouted: "Because you're right, Bernie, you're right!"
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/07/07/youth-flocking-sanders-because-youre-right-bernie-youre-right
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)I love Bernie, but lets stay focused on reality. This could definitely change, but for now the polls say otherwise.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Keep going! It's fantastic!!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Seriously, did I miss a recent poll stating otherwise?
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)phone polling tends only to reach older generations
99Forever
(14,524 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)From ppppolls: Clinton is polling over 70% with African Americans, over 60% with women, and over 50% with liberals, moderates, whites and voters in every age group.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)They mean jack.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And that's all my point was about. Fine, say "fuck the polls", but at this very point the reality says otherwise. Am I wrong about this or are you?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Nor by them.
Just more neoliberal bullshit.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)You're turning this into something it's not. All I was doing is stating that according to current polls, it seems as Hillary is currently leading with millennials. This article makes it seem as though Bernie has captured a lead in any demographic, specifically millennials.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I'm saying the polls are bullshit. Meaningless garbage. Bunk. Propaganda tools.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)hello this is Karl Rove check again must be wrong. Mittens was a lock. X_X do'h stupid polls..
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Hell, I'm a boomer and I don't have a landline. Polls usually only call landlines...old people.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)supporters, that they are driving his campaign. Don't forget that OWS was in large part driven by Millennials and they have endorsed Bernie in the first ever political endorsement. I follow them online and they are out there working hard to use their considerable organizing skills on his behalf now.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts):yawn:
artislife
(9,497 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2015, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)
Hi I am a new member. I support Bernie Sanders, I am a Mexican/Native American/Irish woman who read here during the 2008 and 2012. I live in a Washington State, so until a few weeks ago I was very happy with Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray. (TTP votes).
I know there are a lot of flame throwing going on and it reminds me of the other two election cycles. But I felt so strongly to show that people who don't self identify with only one group (woman) or (Latina) can see our choices in more than one linear line.
To the article.http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/2016-hillary-clinton-feminists-20150515
Alexandra Svokos was six years old, growing up in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey, when she became a Hillary Clinton fan. It was 1998, and Clinton had published Dear Socks, Dear Buddy, a collection of children's letters addressed to the first family's pets. Svokos became so obsessed with the book, she recalls, that she wrote her own letternot to Socks the cat or Buddy the Labrador, but to Clinton herself. When she got a reply on official White House stationery with the first lady's signature, Svokos was thrilled.
Clinton was an early feminist icon for many women of Svokos's generationlong before they even began to think of themselves as feminists. Svokos, who's now 23 and a fellow at The Huffington Post, grew up with parents who called themselves feminists and practiced gender equality in the house, balancing household responsibilities and encouraging Svokos and her two sisters to "fight for what we deserved." Mostly, she says, feminism meant "girl power" to herand that meant, in turn, rooting for Clinton when she made her first run for the presidency in 2008. Svokos was in high school then, and her ideas about feminism were still pretty simple; she admired Clinton "because she was a woman, rather than knowing much about what she stood for."Eight years later, Svokos's notion of feminism has evolvedand the prospect of Hillary Clinton becoming president no longer fills her with unbridled excitement. Svokos says her ideas about feminism began to change when she studied economics at Columbia University, beginning in 2010. As she learned about economic inequality in the United States and around the world, she says, she began to see how gender, race, and class were intertwinedhow, for instance, expanding access to birth control can stimulate an economy by enabling women to pursue their own careers.
Feminism came to mean something very different from girl power. And Hillary Clinton came to look like the symbol of an older generation of women more concerned with female empowermentin particular, with white, middle-class, American female empowermentthan with broader issues of social and economic justice. Svokos says she'll vote for Clinton in 2016, but she's not expecting her to make social justice and inequality true priorities if she makes it to the White House. "I find her lacking, in that I realize she's not likely to push for the kind of change I'd like to see," Svokos says. "At the same time, though, I believe she knows how to manage politics and will be more than capable in the position."
HILLARY CLINTON came of age during the peak years of second-wave feminism. The first wave began in the mid-1800s, with women's suffrage as the goal; the second stretched from the 1960s to the early 1980s, and focused on reproductive and workplace rights. Writer and activist Betty Friedan is usually credited with catalyzing the second wave with The Feminine Mystique. Published in 1963, the landmark book called for women's liberation from housework, with Friedan famously writing: "We can no longer ignore that voice within women that says: 'I want something more than my husband and my children and my house.' "As the feminism of Friedan and second-wave stalwarts like Gloria Steinem moved into the mainstream, some began to criticize it as a movement tailored to white women of means. Who, they asked, would clean the homes and care for the children of Friedan's liberated middle-class housewives? Where was their liberation? Such questions fed into a larger critique of second-wave feminism: that it saw white American women's concerns as representing those of all women.
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Social media changed the landscape of feminism. Young women who might not learn about feminism in their schools or communities could find primers on Tumblr blogs with names like intersectional feminism 101. Their feminist awakenings thus involved, from the start, debates about second-wave feminism's perceived failures of inclusivity. "Anyone who entered the feminist conversation in the Internet age has immediate access to not only research about those failures, but also to a lot of the conversations about them," says feminist organizer and writer Shelby Knox, who's 28. "The barriers are a lot lower for participation in the movement."
And there is more. Please click on the link if you are interested in reading it. I am not sure if I am supposed to copy the whole article or just the beginning or just quotations. I never really paid attention because I wasn't able to post. If this needs to be edited, go ahead ---no hard feelings, just a little learning!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,699 posts)Looks like an interesting article. Please edit your post to limit it to four paragraphs--this is our rule. We can't edit your post; only you can.
Thanks, and again, Welcome to DU!
artislife
(9,497 posts)Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)This comes from am early boomer who has followed politics since 1956.