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Related: About this forumHow Secretary of State Clinton and the defense industry profited from weapons deals
This is from June 2, so I'm not sure if it's already been posted, but it is horrifying. It's based on a David Sirota piece in the International Business Times that tells how Hillary and Bill Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, and the defense industry profited from enabling arms sales and the sales of biological and chemical weapons to various countries, including those on the human rights watch list, during her tenure as Secretary of State.
http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/06/how-hillary-has-already-ruined-her-legacy/
Here's the original Sirota piece
http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187
Darb
(2,807 posts)Of course the defense industry profited. That's what they do. As for conflating the donations to a charity and the decisions by the administration on who gets sold weapons, well, that is a Repugnant wet dream and worthy of a big fat blow it out your ass. The only real influence Saudi Arabia needs is their oil fields.
Anyone can donate to a charity for whatever reason that they want. A tax write off? The belief that it might help them via influence? Or maybe because they do good work? Doesn't matter. But remember, it's a fucking charity that does good work.
I'd be willing to wager that Sirota, or you for that matter, cannot prove jack shit and speculating in this manner is doing the bidding of the Teabag set. I am sure they are pleased with you. Or are you pleased with yourself?
latebloomer
(7,120 posts)This is coming from the far Left. I agree with you that this is undoubtedly "business as usual". And I think the Clintons are corrupt to the bone. They profit from those whose business is killing people. They have a charitable foundation which is profiting from human misery. And he gets paid $675,000 by a big bank to speak for 45 minutes?
Nothing to see here, just move along.
Gman
(24,780 posts)In their hatred of Hillary. The truth and accuracy doesn't matter when you hate. The article is bullshit to any in not blinded by that hate.
latebloomer
(7,120 posts)and often in that place lies the truth.
How specifically is this article "bullshit"?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The right unites for truth? WHEN??
latebloomer
(7,120 posts)Sometimes for the same reasons and sometimes not. But I'm very sure that if Bush were making these kinds of deals, Dems would be outraged.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Opposing a candidate on issues is not "hate." It's opposing the candidate on issues, and one doesn't have to be "far" left to oppose HRC on many issues.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Repeating and perpetuating lies about anyone is. And by the way don't play the game about what is a lie. You can use Google as well as anybody, I'm sure.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I haven't seen DUers "hating" by perpetuating lies.
frylock
(34,825 posts)and they are very explicit about that. I know it's difficult for personality cultists to understand.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)It is interesting to watch the attack after attack from all sides, with nothing to back up the allegations.
It is if she is so feared. You suggest that she profits from those businesses killing people. How does she profit? The Clinton foundation gives the Clintons no money.
You suggest that the charitable foundation "profits." Think critically about this if you can attempt to set aside your disgust for a minute. Foundations do not profit. They dole out the money to help people. The help Bill Clinton has done with his foundation is amazing.
Speaking fees: this right-wing meme is getting old. Please investigate the speaking fees that ex-secretaries of state, ex-presidents receive. I thought we liked democracy, where you can succeed if you work hard. She is a huge draw and a huge name in politics. She was the secretary of state! That should be worth some mighty fine speaking fees.
Those with agendas and biases from decades of attacks are spoon-fed this crap and eat it with glee. I would hope we would all take a step back and really do some critically thinking about what is alleged before we jump for joy and regurgitate it as fact.
latebloomer
(7,120 posts)who then get deals so that they can sell weapons that kill innocent civilians to countries on the human rights watch lists? And that's done so that your foundation can help people?
And I'm sure none of these companies wind up giving huge donations to the Clinton campaign.
If Bush was up to this, there would be outrage. I don't understand the double standard.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)There is no--and will never be--evidence of quid pro quo. That allegation of felonious actions are sure thrown out there with no filter. You are suggesting that the Secretary of State used her powerful position to gain money for a charity organization. What a reckless, factless allegation.
Seriously.
latebloomer
(7,120 posts)And that is business as usual.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)latebloomer
(7,120 posts)And those cozy ties to Monsanto, and Goldman Sachs, and Citigroup? And Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch and JP Morgan Chase? "You gotta dance with them that brung ya."
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)link: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals
In 2011, the State Department cleared an enormous arms deal: Led by Boeing, a consortium of American defense contractors would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, despite concerns over the kingdom's troublesome human rights record. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, Saudi Arabia had contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, and just two months before the jet deal was finalized, Boeing donated $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times investigation released Tuesday.
The Saudi transaction is just one example of nations and companies that had donated to the Clinton Foundation seeing an increase in arms deals while Hillary Clinton oversaw the State Department. IBT found that between October 2010 and September 2012, State approved $165 billion in commercial arms sales to 20 nations that had donated to the foundation, plus another $151 billion worth of Pentagon-brokered arms deals to 16 of those countriesa 143 percent increase over the same time frame under the Bush Administration. The sales boosted the military power of authoritarian regimes such as Qatar, Algeria, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman, which, like Saudi Arabia, had been criticized by the department for human rights abuses.
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Hillary scrutinized for arms sales at State | TheHill
http://thehill.com/regulation/international/243089-hillary-clinton-facing-criticism-over-international-weapons-deals
Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html
Repressive regimes donated to Clinton Foundation, got federal approval for arms deals.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/05/26/clinton_foundation_state_department_weapons_deals_donations_approval_coincided.html
Troubling pattern: A 143% increase in arms sales to 17 Clinton Foundation donor countries.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/31/1389411/-Troubling-pattern-a-143-increase-in-arms-sales-to-16-Clinton-Foundation-donor-countries
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0