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latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:22 AM Jul 2015

How Secretary of State Clinton and the defense industry profited from weapons deals

This is from June 2, so I'm not sure if it's already been posted, but it is horrifying. It's based on a David Sirota piece in the International Business Times that tells how Hillary and Bill Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, and the defense industry profited from enabling arms sales and the sales of biological and chemical weapons to various countries, including those on the human rights watch list, during her tenure as Secretary of State.



http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/06/how-hillary-has-already-ruined-her-legacy/


Here's the original Sirota piece

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187



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How Secretary of State Clinton and the defense industry profited from weapons deals (Original Post) latebloomer Jul 2015 OP
Repubelican hogwash. Darb Jul 2015 #1
This is not "Repubelican hogwash" latebloomer Jul 2015 #2
The far left and the right wing have made common cause Gman Jul 2015 #3
There is a place where left and right unite latebloomer Jul 2015 #4
lolwut? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #9
Yes, there are indeed places where left and right meet latebloomer Jul 2015 #12
Here we go with the "hate" thing again. LWolf Jul 2015 #10
Opposing a candidate is not hate . Gman Jul 2015 #11
Of course I can use google. LWolf Jul 2015 #17
The Far Left™ hate Clinton's policy.. frylock Jul 2015 #13
It is a lie designed to take down Clinton Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #5
So it's ok to take money from warmongers latebloomer Jul 2015 #6
Clinton has made no deals with anyone Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #7
Yes, of course she did latebloomer Jul 2015 #14
How's that F-35 going? And gun manufacturers? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #8
How's that fracking thing going? latebloomer Jul 2015 #15
I don't know, I live in NY, where it's banned. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16
Motherjones: Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #18
 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
1. Repubelican hogwash.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:28 AM
Jul 2015

Of course the defense industry profited. That's what they do. As for conflating the donations to a charity and the decisions by the administration on who gets sold weapons, well, that is a Repugnant wet dream and worthy of a big fat blow it out your ass. The only real influence Saudi Arabia needs is their oil fields.

Anyone can donate to a charity for whatever reason that they want. A tax write off? The belief that it might help them via influence? Or maybe because they do good work? Doesn't matter. But remember, it's a fucking charity that does good work.

I'd be willing to wager that Sirota, or you for that matter, cannot prove jack shit and speculating in this manner is doing the bidding of the Teabag set. I am sure they are pleased with you. Or are you pleased with yourself?

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
2. This is not "Repubelican hogwash"
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jul 2015

This is coming from the far Left. I agree with you that this is undoubtedly "business as usual". And I think the Clintons are corrupt to the bone. They profit from those whose business is killing people. They have a charitable foundation which is profiting from human misery. And he gets paid $675,000 by a big bank to speak for 45 minutes?

Nothing to see here, just move along.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
3. The far left and the right wing have made common cause
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jul 2015

In their hatred of Hillary. The truth and accuracy doesn't matter when you hate. The article is bullshit to any in not blinded by that hate.

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
4. There is a place where left and right unite
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:24 AM
Jul 2015

and often in that place lies the truth.

How specifically is this article "bullshit"?

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
12. Yes, there are indeed places where left and right meet
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jul 2015

Sometimes for the same reasons and sometimes not. But I'm very sure that if Bush were making these kinds of deals, Dems would be outraged.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
10. Here we go with the "hate" thing again.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jul 2015

Opposing a candidate on issues is not "hate." It's opposing the candidate on issues, and one doesn't have to be "far" left to oppose HRC on many issues.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
11. Opposing a candidate is not hate .
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jul 2015

Repeating and perpetuating lies about anyone is. And by the way don't play the game about what is a lie. You can use Google as well as anybody, I'm sure.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
13. The Far Left™ hate Clinton's policy..
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jul 2015

and they are very explicit about that. I know it's difficult for personality cultists to understand.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
5. It is a lie designed to take down Clinton
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jul 2015

It is interesting to watch the attack after attack from all sides, with nothing to back up the allegations.

It is if she is so feared. You suggest that she profits from those businesses killing people. How does she profit? The Clinton foundation gives the Clintons no money.

You suggest that the charitable foundation "profits." Think critically about this if you can attempt to set aside your disgust for a minute. Foundations do not profit. They dole out the money to help people. The help Bill Clinton has done with his foundation is amazing.

Speaking fees: this right-wing meme is getting old. Please investigate the speaking fees that ex-secretaries of state, ex-presidents receive. I thought we liked democracy, where you can succeed if you work hard. She is a huge draw and a huge name in politics. She was the secretary of state! That should be worth some mighty fine speaking fees.

Those with agendas and biases from decades of attacks are spoon-fed this crap and eat it with glee. I would hope we would all take a step back and really do some critically thinking about what is alleged before we jump for joy and regurgitate it as fact.

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
6. So it's ok to take money from warmongers
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

who then get deals so that they can sell weapons that kill innocent civilians to countries on the human rights watch lists? And that's done so that your foundation can help people?

And I'm sure none of these companies wind up giving huge donations to the Clinton campaign.

If Bush was up to this, there would be outrage. I don't understand the double standard.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
7. Clinton has made no deals with anyone
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jul 2015

There is no--and will never be--evidence of quid pro quo. That allegation of felonious actions are sure thrown out there with no filter. You are suggesting that the Secretary of State used her powerful position to gain money for a charity organization. What a reckless, factless allegation.

Seriously.

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
15. How's that fracking thing going?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jul 2015

And those cozy ties to Monsanto, and Goldman Sachs, and Citigroup? And Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch and JP Morgan Chase? "You gotta dance with them that brung ya."

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. Motherjones: Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jul 2015
An investigation finds that countries that gave to the foundation saw an increase in State Department-approved arms sales.
link: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals

In 2011, the State Department cleared an enormous arms deal: Led by Boeing, a consortium of American defense contractors would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, despite concerns over the kingdom's troublesome human rights record. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, Saudi Arabia had contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, and just two months before the jet deal was finalized, Boeing donated $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times investigation released Tuesday.

The Saudi transaction is just one example of nations and companies that had donated to the Clinton Foundation seeing an increase in arms deals while Hillary Clinton oversaw the State Department. IBT found that between October 2010 and September 2012, State approved $165 billion in commercial arms sales to 20 nations that had donated to the foundation, plus another $151 billion worth of Pentagon-brokered arms deals to 16 of those countries—a 143 percent increase over the same time frame under the Bush Administration. The sales boosted the military power of authoritarian regimes such as Qatar, Algeria, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman, which, like Saudi Arabia, had been criticized by the department for human rights abuses.

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