2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen are the first Democratic and Republican debates?
This is surprisingly difficult information to find.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Heard that on Lawrence or Rachel
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)What about Dems?
randys1
(16,286 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)It seems to be a big secret.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Thanks for digging it up.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)chillfactor
(7,576 posts)Republicans:
1 Aug. 6, 2015 Quicken Loans Arena
Cleveland, OH Fox News
2 Sept. 16, 2015 Reagan Library
Simi Valley, CA CNN
3 Oct. 2015 Colorado CNBC
4 Nov. 2015 Wisconsin Fox Business Network
5 Dec. 15, 2015 Nevada CNN/Salem Radio
6 Jan. 2016 Iowa Fox News
7 Feb. 6, 2016 New Hampshire ABC News
8 Feb. 13, 2016 South Carolina CBS News
9 Feb. 26, 2016 Houston, Texas NBC News/Telemundo/
National Review
10 Mar. 2016 TBD Fox News
11 Mar. 2016 TBD CNN/Salem Radio
12 TBD TBD TBD
Democrats:
Democrats announced that they plan to hold six official debates between Democratic candidates seeking the presidential nomination in 2016.
Beginning later this fall, each of the debates will be held in one of four early primary and caucus states: Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina.
i could not find any set dates yet for the Democratic debates.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)I had the same problem
jwirr
(39,215 posts)emailed her.
think
(11,641 posts)~Snip~
1 August/September 2015 Iowa TBD
2 August/September 2015 New Hampshire TBD
3 October/November 2015 South Carolina TBD
4 November/December 2015 Nevada TBD
5 January 2016 Iowa TBD
6 January 2016 TBD TBD
~Snip~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_debates,_2016
jwirr
(39,215 posts)New Hampshire primaries are right after January 2016. Which means we are going to have no debates during the primary season at all. I do not like this at all.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)honest. but i did start a discussion about w-s avoiding ari's question about who will be participating in dnc debates
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251434561
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)by Aug 9, 2007 there had been 8 Democratic debates. 13 by the end of September.
9 debates during the primaries in 2008.
6 total debates this time? None, during the primaries.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)her own candidate. What Wasserman-Schultz does not understand is that she is not going to be getting money from those of us who understand her game.
I wonder where they have stashed Ed at again? I watch it to see what he has to say because he does not let things like that fly.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)so he can be fresh for the rest of this.
w-s is a tool. she needs to leave dnc leadership asap.
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)Link to both the D & R Debates Schedules:
http://www.2016presidentialdebateschedule.com/2016-debate-schedule/
... AND
Link to both the D & R Primary/Caucus Schedules:
http://www.2016presidentialdebateschedule.com/2016-presidential-primary-schedule-calendar/
... You're welcome
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)As you can see from the Democratic list, it's vague.
kath
(10,565 posts)?? What the heck is going on?
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)I know people want some Hillary/Bernie psychodrama over this, but it is VERY clear how 2007 played out and how party leaders said it would be this go around.
THERE WERE TOO MANY IN 2007. It hurt the Rs because it turned into a first class, never ending freakshow, and even the D debates got monotonous.
Party leaders said AT THE TIME, they were going to limit the debates this go around.
The shit in 2007 was unprecedented.
What is being layed out this year is more in line with how it is always has been done.
Primary debates did not start until late October in 99 ...
Democratic Party
March 1st, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Los Angeles, California
February 21st, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in New York City
January 26th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Manchester, New Hampshire
January 17th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Black-Brown Forum in Des Moines, Iowa
January 8th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Des Moines, Iowa
December 19th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Debate on NBC News "Meet the Press"
December 17th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Town Hall in Nashua, New Hampshire
October 27th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Town Hall in Hanover, New Hampshire
think
(11,641 posts)And we lost in 2000
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)republicans had more debates in 2007 and lost ...
Point stands.
2007 had too many debates, it did no one any good.
They made the decision AT THE TIME, to cut back debates the next go around.
The plan this year makes sense, line them up strategically in the run up to the various primaries.
think
(11,641 posts)How much can actually be discussed in 6 debates? Seriously. With all the issues facing America and the world limiting the discussion while billionaires buy all the air time they desire for discussion in the election isn't healthy.
As to how much of a factor having just a few debates had on the 2000 election is debatable but the Democrats still lost.
Creating very a very limited discussion of issues seems very counterproductive to having an informed electorate.
Last year in Florida former GOPer Charlie Crist was pretty much green lighted as the nominee and Nan Rich wasn't allowed to debate Crist in the primary.
This was DWS's home turf where she & Bill Nelson pretty much installed Allison Tant as the Florida Democratic chair. That turned out awesome for Democrats didn't it:
When it comes to talking about the upcoming Democrat gubernatorial primary race between former state Senator Nan Rich and Charlie Crist, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is at a loss for words.
~Snip~
Man: Should Charlie Crist and Nan Rich debate?
Wasserman Schultz: Im the chair of the Democratic National Committee. It is not for me to weigh in on what happens in a Democratic primary.
Man:So you dont have a feeling about whether a debate would be a good idea?
Wasserman Schultz: I am neutral when it comes to decisions made in the Democratic primary by candidates for our nomination. And I am ready to support the nominee whenever we have one.
Rich and Wasserman Schultz are considered to be close friends, but that friendship became strained after it disclosed to the Shark Tank by close associates of Rich that Wasserman Schultz quietly pushed for Crist to speak at the 2012 Democratic National Committee convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, leaving Rich deeply disappointed in her long-time friends decision.
Remember, nothing happens at the Democratic National Committee without the Chairwomans nod of approval.
Read more at http://shark-tank.com/2014/05/01/wasserman-schultz-says-shes-neutral-in-crist-rich-primary-race-but/
By David Smiley, Miami Herald - Friday, July 11, 2014 10:59am
MIAMI Unable so far to goad Charlie Crist into a debate, underdog gubernatorial candidate Nan Rich continued Friday to attack the former governor's credibility as a Democrat while downplaying questions about her chances in a general election.
Rich, a former state senator from Weston and Crist's lone opponent in the Democratic primary, compared Crist to a ghost during a morning forum with the Florida Press Association and Florida Society of Newspaper Editors. Crist himself spoke during their convention Thursday at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables and defended his record as governor, back when he was a Republican.
Whoever wins the primary will face off in November with Gov. Rick Scott, who declined an invitation to speak at the event.
"We need to make sure we don't have two Republicans running in the gubernatorial election," Rich said.
Full article:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/democrat-nan-rich-calls-on-charlie-crist-to-debate/2188126
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)if Billions of dollars will drown out 6 debates it is going to drown out 8, 10, 12 debates ...
A few extra debates won't make or break it either way.
Unless your suggesting having a couple debates a day from now until the primaries.
The Rs had more debates in 2007 and lost ...
You ignored that of course.
think
(11,641 posts)that important.
Some people would rather see politicians discuss the issues rather than talking heads and commercials telling us what is important.
Guess we'll find out....
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)I pick my candidates based on talking heads and commercials.
If that makes you feel better about thing.
More than six debates is not going to change this election for anyone.
People either are turned in and making a well thought out decision or they aren't.
The lesson learned from everyone AT THE TIME in 2007 was the more it drug out with the debates the less good it did anyone.
think
(11,641 posts)Do you feel the general public is as informed as you in making decisions on the election?
When I talk to people many appear to have very little understanding of many issues and what is going on in Washington.
What issues should be debated in the six debates?
Do you really feel a good percentage of the issues can adequately be discussed in six debates?
An informed electorate is important for making good decisions.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
As I noted, people either seek to be informed voters or they don't.
If someone wants to be informed they will get what the need after six debates.
It isn't like someone can't watch it 100 different ways after the fact, at their leisure if they want.
The framing you note is the same for the debates - the "talking heads" don't hash over the substance, they horse race it. WHO WON!
That is all they are for most people, more so today than ever.
WHO WON!
And, who won is framed by the media.
Bush did nothing in debates against Gore and Kerry that the media crowned him the winner.
Same bullshit generally applies to the debates as everything else.
And, once again, in 07 even the candidates were burnt out by them.
think
(11,641 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)they have little undestanding of the issues because they already don't care to find out. They certainly are not watching regional debates that they feel doesn't pertain to them.
If they are truly wanting to be informed, the information is available on each of the candidates. Style of debating will be the true learning curve for the public. I don't think 8 vs. 6 debates will change that to any great degree. Don't forget there are stump speeches, campaign literature, web sites and local town hall meetings just to name a few other outlets for voter information.
think
(11,641 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Unfortunately USA isn't like Australia where voting is mandatory, and therefore a very large portion of the Aussie population gets some basic knowledge of the candidates.
And this non voting population in the USA...it's nothing to do with smarts. They just do not care about politics. Those who don't want or don't care to be informed will not be watching the debates...and unfortunately, that is very large portion of the population
think
(11,641 posts)Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)late October, of 99.
Democratic Party
March 1st, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Los Angeles, California
February 21st, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in New York City
January 26th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Manchester, New Hampshire
January 17th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Black-Brown Forum in Des Moines, Iowa
January 8th, 2000 Democratic Candidates Debate in Des Moines, Iowa
December 19th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Debate on NBC News "Meet the Press"
December 17th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Town Hall in Nashua, New Hampshire
October 27th, 1999 Democratic Candidates Town Hall in Hanover, New Hampshire
I know people want some psychodrama of the evil Hillary here, but 2007 was unprecedented, and AT THE TIME, leaders in both parties said they were going to cut back on the debates. The Rs were a running circus that had party leaders wanting to put a gun to their heads, and even the D debates got monotonous.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)It seems like the more candidates, the more debates. In 2000 there were only 2.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)that 2007 was a total freak show with over saturation for even the dems that did no one any good.
Which is what everyone, including the candidates for the most part, said at the time.
Point stands, 2007 was an anomaly in regard to the number and how early they started.
The plan this year makes sense - six debates timed strategically in the lead up to the various primaries.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The DNC is evolving. They'll let you know when they're finished.