2016 Postmortem
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I'm freaked out by the droughts in California - our #1 agriculture state - and the other parts of the world that are turning into deserts.
Our next president needs to push for sustainable energy and work to reduce climate change, but also needs to fairly deal with the consequences of it as they appear.
What candidates are most likely to do that? And why?
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)all you're going to get is people voting for their preferred candidate anyway.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Another popularity contest.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)He'd probably be the most effective of them all in terms of actually being able to get stuff passed, and effectiveness was the question.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Based on the poll numbers, it looks like the standard Hillary/Bernie split on site.
MADem
(135,425 posts)OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)Quid Pro Quo for donation cash. Climate change will only get lip service from her.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And how many have endorsed Senator Sanders, by contrast....?
Ummmmm. None, so far. Zero. Zip. Nada.
He's gotten a few local endorsements from former state senators but those aren't much if any help to him. He's gotten a few celebrity endorsements, too, but those have limited appeal.
You can compare and contrast at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorsements_for_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
Those US legislators are superdelegates to the Convention. They have a vote.
Their endorsements matter.
OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Presidents do not rule by executive fiat.
If they can't get Congress to follow, they can't lead.
Clinton has endorsers in both chambers. Sanders has NONE.
rock
(13,218 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)George Bernard Shaw
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgebern137450.html#qBPcYe14LJi6GqJA.99
rock
(13,218 posts)Thanks
Man of Distinction
(109 posts)I hate popularity contests.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)you can't pretend to be reminding us who the "real enemy" is by forgetting that every year establishment Dems adopt more and more GOP policies
because we won't forget
randys1
(16,286 posts)But i have bad news for those of you with young children or grandchildren, myself included, it is too late for some or many.
The best we can do now is save some life and some livable areas, not sure how much, but from everything I have read, this is the case.
bananas
(27,509 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/29/bernie-sanders-climate-change-senate_n_7175314.html
http://www.bustle.com/articles/87193-ranking-the-greenest-2016-candidates-on-a-scale-of-0-to-actually-working-to-combat-climate
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I think of the candidates, Sanders is most likely to push towards the public works needed to try to cope with what comes.
However this is an issue that simply cannot be effectively addressed fro ma seat of government, so... Sorry Sen. sanders, I like you but I don't think you're a wizard, i guess?
elleng
(130,934 posts)HEADS IN SAND MUCH???
Martin O'Malley Is a Real Climate Hawk.
The data-loving Maryland gov could have the greenest credentials of any '16 contender.
O'Malley is the rare elected official who seems genuinely motivated to address climate change. "I deal with a lot of politicians in my work as a climate advocate," says Mike Tidwell, director of the Chesapeake Climate Action Network. "Martin O'Malley, more than any politician I know, really loses sleep over climate change. He is deeply concerned about climate change and his actions over the last eight years reveal that. He's pushed the envelope more than anyone I've seen. He's the kind of politician where his staff comes in and says, Here's what we propose to do,' and most politicians would say, Let's cut that down a little,' and Martin O'Malley regularly says, We can't do better than that? Push a little harder?'"
Maryland, because it's part of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI), requires its electric utilities to buy permits for their carbon pollution. The cost of those permits, according to the state government's estimate, raises electricity bills by only an average of 0.61 percent. The proceeds, around $80 million this year, go into energy-efficiency programs that can then help lower utility bills for Maryland citizens.
The state is also pushing ahead with lots of other, smaller initiatives to cut greenhouse gas emissions. To reduce methane creation from landfills, for example, it is trying to amp up recycling and composting with the goal of reaching 65 percent waste diversion by 2020. It is planting trees on public land to expand carbon sinks, it follows the highest International Energy Conservation Code from the International Code Council for public buildings, and it is expanding rail lines in Baltimore and the Maryland suburbs of D.C.
Beyond RGGI, Maryland mostly has to rely on carrots rather than sticks to entice non-government entities to cut emissions. For example, the state is reducing peak energy demand by offering discounts on electricity bills to consumers who cut their peak-time usage. Maryland's secretary of natural resources, Joseph Gill, is overseeing a state program to plant trees on private land. "I went to the first planting in Montgomery County and the homeowner said he spent six hours a week mowing his huge lawn and he was thrilled to see 400 trees going in," Gill recounts at the ClimateStat meeting.
The O'Malley administration boasts that Maryland's greenhouse gas emissions are down 9.7 percent since 2006, the year before he took office.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk
We should incentivize production of clean energyit's better for our environment & consumers.
- Martin O'Malley
A JOBS AGENDA FOR IOWA'S RENEWABLE ENERGY FUTURE
As a nation we have made great strides toward becoming energy independent. Now is the time to accelerate that progress.
I believe, within 35 years, our country can and should be 100% powered by clean energy, supported by millions of new jobs. But we have to accelerate the transition right now.
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
"Thus far, no other candidate has said they're going to make climate change their top priority.
Martin O'Malley has not only done that, but he has outlined a plan that would enact emissions reductions in line with what scientists say is necessary to slow global climate changeworldwide emissions reductions of 40-70 percent by 2050and he's the only candidate to do that, too. His plan would phase out fossil-fueled power plants altogether, by midcentury. Along with the USA Today op-ed, he released a white paper further outlining his scheme."
#?OMalley2016 #?NewLeadership #?CleanEnergy
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Though honestly, I think we're kind of screwed on that front.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I doubt any of the others could (not even Webb). So, I picked Chafee.