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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:45 PM Jul 2015

The DNC WILL NOT exclude Bernie Sanders from the debates. Everybody can relax.

Last edited Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

The notion that something nefarious is in the works and the DNC is actively working to exclude Bernie Sanders from the Democratic debates is ludicrous.

I've read this allegation a number of times today alone.

It's not going to happen.

Bernie Sanders is currently polling second place and is a high profile member of Congress. He also caucuses with the Democratic party in the Senate. He's the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee.

Also, if you go to the home page of the Democratic party, Bernie's picture is right there next to Hillary's. Would the DNC put his picture there if they're actively working to exclude him? https://www.democrats.org/

Some folks need to put away the tin foil hats.

Bernie will be at the debates.

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The DNC WILL NOT exclude Bernie Sanders from the debates. Everybody can relax. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 OP
People need to find something to complain about. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #1
It is unfortunate.... daleanime Jul 2015 #4
So we don't have a date yet. Oh well! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #6
Yeahup..... daleanime Jul 2015 #12
We will have debates. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #14
As late as possible.... daleanime Jul 2015 #18
Have a pleasant evening. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #19
It would be suicide to exclude him, give him way more power that way randys1 Jul 2015 #26
Agreed. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #27
I never doubted that he would be included virtualobserver Jul 2015 #10
Well if there is a desire for more debates they will likely include more. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #13
Oooh, ooh, but... but... the EXCLUSIVITY RULE!! NO MORE THAN 6 DEBATES Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #28
We will find out in a few months. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #40
That's for sure. cui bono Jul 2015 #41
. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #42
And after barely 20 days of increased scrutiny LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #49
Oh yes, I agree, sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #2
that is the other side of this coin restorefreedom Jul 2015 #5
Exactly RobertEarl Jul 2015 #48
There might be a better candidate than Bernie among those 12 to 15. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #51
TPP has failed to pass the House Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #3
There can be no relaxing reguarding the TPP. -none Jul 2015 #7
they already passed it Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #11
You said the House failed to pass it. -none Jul 2015 #21
It passed a few days after it didn't pass. Not passing was just a feint. So people would djean111 Jul 2015 #29
They did fail to pass it Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #58
So it was the timing of the two statements then? -none Jul 2015 #59
the point Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #63
Sure CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #8
She's never given us a reason to trust her. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #15
Bingo CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #20
More HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #24
I never thought they would kenfrequed Jul 2015 #9
i think that is her b plan. restorefreedom Jul 2015 #17
No. Not likely kenfrequed Jul 2015 #22
How do they add people to the stage? Renew Deal Jul 2015 #35
apparently there are quite a few restorefreedom Jul 2015 #43
That's not going to happen Renew Deal Jul 2015 #45
Bwaahhaahaaahaa!!!... LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #47
Still rediculous. Agschmid Jul 2015 #54
This is just rediculous. Agschmid Jul 2015 #53
Do you mean to the debate or the race? Renew Deal Jul 2015 #34
Kicked and Recc'd Agschmid Jul 2015 #16
Yeah but will anyone here care after the purge? zappaman Jul 2015 #23
NYCSkip is responsible for his ban. No CT here. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #30
I'm not saying it was a purge, but.... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #32
You've been here long enough to know better than that Renew Deal Jul 2015 #33
Zappaman is kidding Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #36
would be nice to put a sarcasm tag for us that are a little slow still_one Jul 2015 #39
Sanders will be in the DNC debates Gothmog Jul 2015 #25
But then what am I paying them for??? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #31
I never thought they wouldn't. That was used by some to stir things up, and give a faux excuse to still_one Jul 2015 #37
And so many people ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #38
The only thing that I haven't seen in all these threads is... marked50 Jul 2015 #44
who would Hillary debate, otherwise? bigtree Jul 2015 #46
I'm seeing a challenge, made by someone "NOT AFFILIATED" with the Clinton campaign... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #50
Sucker's bet. You or a buddy will make the challenge yourself... LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #52
Srsly? I'm on fucking record as supporting Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #55
Buy your own steak dinner then. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #56
No one should challenge Bernie's right to run AS A Democrat underthematrix Jul 2015 #57
How many debates will that be? 99Forever Jul 2015 #60
Good, because I want fair open lovemydog Jul 2015 #61
Of course Sanders will be in the debates. MineralMan Jul 2015 #62

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
4. It is unfortunate....
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

how easy that is to do.

Like the fact that we haven't even scheduled a single debate yet?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
18. As late as possible....
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jul 2015

and as few as we can get away with. No worries, there will bigger obstacles ahead of us. Have a good evening, time to get some dinner. (The only eating related smilies you saw.)

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
10. I never doubted that he would be included
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jul 2015

But they haven't even scheduled the first sanctioned DNC debate.
there are only 6, and none scheduled after the primaries start,
just as in 2007......but they are starting much later this time.

There were a total of 26 debates in 2007-2008



 

Man of Distinction

(109 posts)
28. Oooh, ooh, but... but... the EXCLUSIVITY RULE!! NO MORE THAN 6 DEBATES
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jul 2015

what about it, if Bernie does lead after say, the second debates and maintains and increases it daily - does the DNC want more debates in the hopes of torpedoing Sanders?

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
49. And after barely 20 days of increased scrutiny
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jul 2015

let alone making it 20 years on the national & international stage. So Bernie does his Gish Gallop of political shoulda, coulda woulda's and the DNC gotta dance to his tune.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
2. Oh yes, I agree,
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jul 2015

the question is will they have 12-15 so called
candidates, so that each may have 15 seconds
for an answer or comment?
That would work well for the DNC's candidate.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. that is the other side of this coin
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

they may not be able to keep him out, but if they let enough others in, not only will they be able to keep Bernie's input to a minimum, they'll also be able to keep Hillary's to a minimum, and that means she won't have as many opportunities to give her vague non answers.it's clear that the DNC fix is in. They're just waiting for the last possible moment so they rig it exactly to their liking.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
48. Exactly
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jul 2015

Which would be excluding Bernie. The OP can't make a claim otherwise. In fact, all indications are that exclusion of Bernie is the M.O.

OP fails. The Party heads are being very anti-democratic.

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
51. There might be a better candidate than Bernie among those 12 to 15.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:00 PM
Jul 2015

Wouldn't you want to hear from them and make an informed choice? Validation of your choice need not be limited to ridicule of the front runner.

-none

(1,884 posts)
7. There can be no relaxing reguarding the TPP.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

The pertinent bits and pieces will show up, buried in popular or must pass legislation.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
11. they already passed it
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jul 2015

The moment the anti-TPP forces relaxed their guard it sailed through.

A warning to those who would trust the DNC and fail to be vigilant against treachery.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. It passed a few days after it didn't pass. Not passing was just a feint. So people would
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jul 2015

stop paying attention.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
58. They did fail to pass it
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jul 2015

And as soon as a convenient distraction came by (the Charleston massacre) they tried again, and passed it less than 24 hours later while everyone was grieving over the tragedy.

It's an object lesson in how faux-democracy works, really.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
63. the point
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:26 AM
Jul 2015

is that when dealing with anything political, you should expect to be stabbed in the back by the agents of the elites until all possibility of an event - whether passing an odious trade bill, or rigging the procedure and conditions of a candidate debate - is truly and finally past.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. She's never given us a reason to trust her.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jul 2015

She blocked Democratic candidates challenging Congressional seats held by her Cuban-republican friends. She was behind Florida moving up the primary, in an effort to boost Hillary (which cost us delegates). And she's repeatedly lied about both circumstances. There's plenty of reasons not to trust her.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
9. I never thought they would
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jul 2015

What I am more concerned with is Wasserman adding a lot of additional candidates beyond the five (or so) that seem to be running.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. i think that is her b plan.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie is polling too high and has too much momentum to be excluded out right. But if she lets enough others on stage, he won't have much of an opportunity to speak and get his words out. The reason this is taking so long is they are trying to play it just right. One way or another, they are determined to keep him as silent as possible. Too bad it's going to backfire.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
22. No. Not likely
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jul 2015

Having as few debates as possible with as many candidates as possible was their plan A.

No one would be so silly as to try to exclude Bernie.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
43. apparently there are quite a few
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:17 PM
Jul 2015

something like 17 declared candidates and another bunch "potential." most are people most of us never heard of.

if they allow 7 or so of them onto the stage, that cuts down on the time that each one gets to speak. And of course that will cut down on the time Bernie gets to get his message out. I think Wasserman and Company are trying to cut it just right. let enough in to cut into Bernie's speaking time, but not so many that it's going to look like the Republican Trainwreck when they have their debate.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
45. That's not going to happen
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jul 2015

There's no way to credibly have a debate with Lee Mercer and James "Titus The Great" Law out there.

I'd be more worried about them cutting Chaffee.

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
47. Bwaahhaahaaahaa!!!...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jul 2015
You have discovered our machinations. You must now be made to compromise your scruples

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
23. Yeah but will anyone here care after the purge?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

Don't forget, NYCSkip being banned was the beginning of the purge!!!!

still_one

(92,204 posts)
37. I never thought they wouldn't. That was used by some to stir things up, and give a faux excuse to
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jul 2015

the DNC and Hillary

marked50

(1,366 posts)
44. The only thing that I haven't seen in all these threads is...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jul 2015

that Bernie is the candidate that the Wall Street/Money Changers/Billionares have to fear the most. It is not beyond any conspiracy theories to believe that all available means will be brought to bear to keep him out of the mix.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
50. I'm seeing a challenge, made by someone "NOT AFFILIATED" with the Clinton campaign...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jul 2015

Six debates. Bernie will pwn Hillary Clinton in a debate of ideas.

Betcha there will be SOME kind of public challenge to Bernie Sanders' right to run as a Democrat.

$200 donation to DU.

If the primaries end with NO public challenge to Bernie Sanders' right to challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, I'll make the donation ON the day Bernie concedes. IF there IS a public challenge to Bernie Sanders' right to challenge for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, YOU make the same commitment, to be paid the day the challenge is made.

If Joe Biden announces, all bets are off.

Fair enough?

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
52. Sucker's bet. You or a buddy will make the challenge yourself...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jul 2015

and go out for a nice steak dinner. Lotta validation in Vegas...

(Amateurs...sheesh)

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
55. Srsly? I'm on fucking record as supporting Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jul 2015

Pull something else out of your nether regions and call it an argument... this one ain't workin'.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
57. No one should challenge Bernie's right to run AS A Democrat
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:44 AM
Jul 2015

But I do believe a Democrat will win the nomination: HRC or Biden (if he decides to run). The lower tier candidates don't stand a chance. BTW, ideas are not enough. They must be grounded in a policy framework.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
60. How many debates will that be?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015

When will they happen?

How will they be moderated?

It appears that someone prefers that us prols not be informed of such minor trivialities. Almost as if those at the controls of this, have someone they seem to favor gaming this to severely limit these debates, in both number and scope.

So, in my view, the "move along, move along, nothing to see here" meme, seems a tad bit disingenuous. But that's probably just me.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
62. Of course Sanders will be in the debates.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jul 2015

Anyone who says otherwise or tries to spread the meme that the DNC is going to exclude him is just trying to blow smoke in people's eyes. It's an attempt to do something that isn't going to help any candidate.

It's also a waste of everyone's time.

There will be debates. All Democratic candidates of any prominence will participate in them. As much as 10% of Democratic voters will actually watch them. The thing about Democratic primary debates is that all of the candidates agree on most issues, and will make that clear. The debates will influence the votes of a small percentage of those who watch them. The rest will continue to support the candidate they already support.

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