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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:28 AM Jul 2015

Follow the Money: 81% of Bernie Sanders' Funds From Small Donors, 17% for Hillary

Last night was the deadline for the Federal Election Commission's requirements that presidential candidates report how much they raised in the second quarter of 2015. On the Republican side, this includes sizable hauls that were matched by much larger super PAC fundraising that acts as a sort of loophole to allow billionaires to give whatever they want to the political process.

For the Democrats, the two leading candidates are Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Sanders raised about $13.7 million. When added to money from his last Senate campaign, this brings him to over $15 million. Clinton raised almost $48 million.

But it is the nature of that fundraising that is perhaps most interesting. The FEC segregates donations into two levels that can be easily deciphered: under $200, typically referred to as “small donors," and over $200. Nearly 81 percent of Sanders' donors fit into this small donor category, making him the candidate who has raised the most from these donors on either side (Ben Carson comes in second at around 80.2 percent).

Clinton raised just 17 percent of her total from small donors.

Link: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/follow-money-81-bernie-sanderss-funds-are-small-donors-compared-17-hillarys-haul


I keep hearing how Bernie has no following outside of DU, and yet Bernie is getting far more small donors (aka Average Folks) than Hillary. Something doesn't jive.
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Follow the Money: 81% of Bernie Sanders' Funds From Small Donors, 17% for Hillary (Original Post) NorthCarolina Jul 2015 OP
There is a faction on DU that tries to demoralize Sanders supporters at every turn peacebird Jul 2015 #1
+1 HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #27
I noticed the tone change LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #37
Yeah, but Hillary's to the left of Bernie on the issues. Scuba Jul 2015 #2
Hmmm. Wonder if there is a wraparound - go too far to the left and you end up on the right? erronis Jul 2015 #17
Either that or you fall off of something. L0oniX Jul 2015 #31
"Bernie is getting far more small donors " NCTraveler Jul 2015 #3
huh?? The only one thing that's taking a beating is the Hillary campaign. Go Bernie Go! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #4
Sanders rocks. Go Bernie. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #5
You know it!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #6
This is how he wins. LWolf Jul 2015 #7
It's the rhetoric on supporting the 99% vs. the record on supporting the 99% Babel_17 Jul 2015 #8
Um, if he raised $10Million of $15Million from small donors that's 68% not 81%. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #9
Try reading the excerpt again. jeff47 Jul 2015 #10
Still doesn't add up. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #12
It's not about the money it's about the number of people. Fearless Jul 2015 #13
No, your point is to do different math to paper over the article's point. jeff47 Jul 2015 #15
Fair point, but the difference in numbers is also minimal. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16
And you're still trying to bury the point. jeff47 Jul 2015 #18
All I'm doing is giving facts. Nothing more. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19
No, you're selecting which facts need emphasis in order to de-emphasize the facts jeff47 Jul 2015 #20
Absurd. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #21
I did. In fact, I pointed out where you were doing the math wrong. jeff47 Jul 2015 #22
Which math did I do wrong? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #23
When you started claiming it was $15M, not $13.7M. jeff47 Jul 2015 #24
I'm doing the math with your numbers! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #26
Epic math fail. L0oniX Jul 2015 #28
How so? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #30
Epic reading fail. L0oniX Jul 2015 #32
Epic reading fail on your part to not read my previous comments in this thread. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #35
Clue: the response is to your post #9. So now I am suppose to read your other blather? L0oniX Jul 2015 #38
It's OK to admit you're wrong. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #39
By all means ...lead the way. L0oniX Jul 2015 #40
that is quite impressive. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #11
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #14
81% of small donors are 100% misogynistic! OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #25
...and pro Hitler. L0oniX Jul 2015 #29
But apparently having many orgasms, so they got that going for them...[n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #41
The Roots... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #33
Small Donors = Average Folks? Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #34
Oohhh, Let Me Try One . . . Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #36
You win. All hail Hillary.... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #42
Finally some real stats Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #43
The new meme from the hillarians is that it's good to be beholden to the billionaires Doctor_J Jul 2015 #44
Wish they'd break out the number of under $50 supporters eridani Jul 2015 #45

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. There is a faction on DU that tries to demoralize Sanders supporters at every turn
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jul 2015

They like to sneer and condescend. I take it as a sign they are concerned about Bernie.
I'm busy getting signatures to put Bernie on the ballot. We unicorns are a powerful force!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
27. +1
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

Clinton supporters are desparate and bitter. Every revolution has it opponents clinging to the status quo. They are on the wrong side of history...that's their problem. Chins up! Here's some motivational music:
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LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
37. I noticed the tone change
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

At first the Hillary brigade were more of a pat-on-the-head "there there, you can have your little moment in the sun but we ALL know who is going to win"

Now you can see the desperation in their retorts as Bernie creeps closer, even some jumping ship and swimming over to the Bernie campaign. Because they simply cannot find any ammunition to use against him. Although they have really really tried the "Bernie doesn't care about black people" as much as Hillary. He is in agreement with Hillary on social issues. There only difference, but its a big one, seems to be voting for the status quo for Wall Street, or fundamental change.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. Yeah, but Hillary's to the left of Bernie on the issues.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jul 2015

Besides, Bernie's too far left on the issues to win the General Election!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. "Bernie is getting far more small donors "
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jul 2015

"Statistics" and math in general need a safe haven group here. They're simply taking a beating.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
8. It's the rhetoric on supporting the 99% vs. the record on supporting the 99%
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:23 AM
Jul 2015

The donations reflect this and Sanders had to start as an unknown.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. Um, if he raised $10Million of $15Million from small donors that's 68% not 81%.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jul 2015

And Hillary's 17% out of $48Million is about $9Million from small donors. A good haul for them both.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
10. Try reading the excerpt again.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jul 2015

Specifically:

Sanders raised about $13.7 million. When added to money from his last Senate campaign, this brings him to over $15 million.

He didn't raise $15M. He raised $13.7M. He had about $1.3M left over from his last Senate campaign.
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. Still doesn't add up.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

81% of 13.7 million is 11.2Million. He raised $10.2Million in small donors. Still a good haul, but only a $1M more than Hillary in small donations. My point was about correcting the articles math.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. No, your point is to do different math to paper over the article's point.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

You're still talking about total dollars, because that obscures the article's point.

The article is talking about total donations, not total dollars. That doesn't tell the story you want to tell.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Fair point, but the difference in numbers is also minimal.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jul 2015

With Hillary claiming 260,000 donors to Bernie's 280,000. Like I said, a good haul for both.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
18. And you're still trying to bury the point.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jul 2015

Because again, you have a story to tell. You need Clinton to be "the candidate of the people" to sell her latest incarnation.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. No, you're selecting which facts need emphasis in order to de-emphasize the facts
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jul 2015

that do not tell the story you want to tell.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. I did. In fact, I pointed out where you were doing the math wrong.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

Because doing the math wrong let you discredit the article.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. When you started claiming it was $15M, not $13.7M.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jul 2015

As for $10M versus $11.097M, I'm going to assume coverage that includes phrasing like "over ___ dollars" is not 100% precise.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
32. Epic reading fail.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jul 2015
Sanders raised about $13.7 million. When added to money from his last Senate campaign, this brings him to over $15 million.
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
35. Epic reading fail on your part to not read my previous comments in this thread.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jul 2015

So it went from a "math" fail to a "reading fail", yet I addressed all of your concerns in this thread. How about instead writing to Alternet and letting them know about their math fail.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
38. Clue: the response is to your post #9. So now I am suppose to read your other blather?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jul 2015

Who fucking cares...

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
33. The Roots...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jul 2015

Anecdotal from L.A.. I'm married to a teacher and recently attended a dinner party with a bunch of teachers. Most of the teachers were female and nearly all of them were Clinton supporters....were. Now, virtually all of them are Bernie supporters. The Truth is very attractive platform to run on. especially when you have the voting record to back it up.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
34. Small Donors = Average Folks?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jul 2015

What about a small donation makes someone average?

Really? 81% - 17%. I file this under Who the F--k Cares!

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
36. Oohhh, Let Me Try One . . .
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

I'm married to a union guy and recently attended a supper party with a bunch of other union folks. Most of them were male and Bernie supporters . . . were. Now, almost all of them are Hillary supporters. They just like her better and appreciate her much more positive attitude instead of being angry all the time.

See how easy that was to craft that paragraph.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
44. The new meme from the hillarians is that it's good to be beholden to the billionaires
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not sure why they think they are democrats

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