2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFollow the Money: 81% of Bernie Sanders' Funds From Small Donors, 17% for Hillary
For the Democrats, the two leading candidates are Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Sanders raised about $13.7 million. When added to money from his last Senate campaign, this brings him to over $15 million. Clinton raised almost $48 million.
But it is the nature of that fundraising that is perhaps most interesting. The FEC segregates donations into two levels that can be easily deciphered: under $200, typically referred to as small donors," and over $200. Nearly 81 percent of Sanders' donors fit into this small donor category, making him the candidate who has raised the most from these donors on either side (Ben Carson comes in second at around 80.2 percent).
Clinton raised just 17 percent of her total from small donors.
Link: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/follow-money-81-bernie-sanderss-funds-are-small-donors-compared-17-hillarys-haul
I keep hearing how Bernie has no following outside of DU, and yet Bernie is getting far more small donors (aka Average Folks) than Hillary. Something doesn't jive.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)They like to sneer and condescend. I take it as a sign they are concerned about Bernie.
I'm busy getting signatures to put Bernie on the ballot. We unicorns are a powerful force!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Clinton supporters are desparate and bitter. Every revolution has it opponents clinging to the status quo. They are on the wrong side of history...that's their problem. Chins up! Here's some motivational music:
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)At first the Hillary brigade were more of a pat-on-the-head "there there, you can have your little moment in the sun but we ALL know who is going to win"
Now you can see the desperation in their retorts as Bernie creeps closer, even some jumping ship and swimming over to the Bernie campaign. Because they simply cannot find any ammunition to use against him. Although they have really really tried the "Bernie doesn't care about black people" as much as Hillary. He is in agreement with Hillary on social issues. There only difference, but its a big one, seems to be voting for the status quo for Wall Street, or fundamental change.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Besides, Bernie's too far left on the issues to win the General Election!
erronis
(15,324 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Statistics" and math in general need a safe haven group here. They're simply taking a beating.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)He walks his talk.
He sticks to his bottom line: support the 99%.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)The donations reflect this and Sanders had to start as an unknown.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And Hillary's 17% out of $48Million is about $9Million from small donors. A good haul for them both.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Specifically:
He didn't raise $15M. He raised $13.7M. He had about $1.3M left over from his last Senate campaign.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)81% of 13.7 million is 11.2Million. He raised $10.2Million in small donors. Still a good haul, but only a $1M more than Hillary in small donations. My point was about correcting the articles math.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)You're still talking about total dollars, because that obscures the article's point.
The article is talking about total donations, not total dollars. That doesn't tell the story you want to tell.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)With Hillary claiming 260,000 donors to Bernie's 280,000. Like I said, a good haul for both.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Because again, you have a story to tell. You need Clinton to be "the candidate of the people" to sell her latest incarnation.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)I support both candidates.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)that do not tell the story you want to tell.
Do the math.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Because doing the math wrong let you discredit the article.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)What is 81% of 13.7Million?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)As for $10M versus $11.097M, I'm going to assume coverage that includes phrasing like "over ___ dollars" is not 100% precise.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)What is 81% of 13.7Million? Hint: Its not 10.2Million.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)So it went from a "math" fail to a "reading fail", yet I addressed all of your concerns in this thread. How about instead writing to Alternet and letting them know about their math fail.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Who fucking cares...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Btw, what is 81% of 13.7Million?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)And white, too!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Anecdotal from L.A.. I'm married to a teacher and recently attended a dinner party with a bunch of teachers. Most of the teachers were female and nearly all of them were Clinton supporters....were. Now, virtually all of them are Bernie supporters. The Truth is very attractive platform to run on. especially when you have the voting record to back it up.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)What about a small donation makes someone average?
Really? 81% - 17%. I file this under Who the F--k Cares!
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)I'm married to a union guy and recently attended a supper party with a bunch of other union folks. Most of them were male and Bernie supporters . . . were. Now, almost all of them are Hillary supporters. They just like her better and appreciate her much more positive attitude instead of being angry all the time.
See how easy that was to craft that paragraph.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I'm not sure why they think they are democrats
eridani
(51,907 posts)That's more my speed.