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Why Rapper Killer Mike's Endorsement of Bernie Sanders Spells Trouble for Hillary Clinton
Why Rapper Killer Mike's Endorsement of Bernie Sanders Spells Trouble for Hillary ClintonPolls are ever-changing, but Americans will never long for a king or queen. When Run the Jewels rapper Killer Mike tweeted "I cannot support another Clinton or bush ever," he echoed the sentiments of Americans throughout the country tired of entrenched political factions in Washington. As for why political dynasties are ruinous to any democracy, the Atlanta rapper says, "I am beginning to see American political families like monarchs and I have no affection for monarchs." This sentiment, in addition to the reasons Killer Mike has endorsed Bernie Sanders for president, can't be accurately assessed by opinion polls or political wonks.
In fact, it could spell trouble for the Clinton campaign and Democratic strategists enamored with poll driven forecasts. When a recent analysis says that Bernie Sanders is popular primarily among "white liberals," the aggregate data used to make such a claim ignores the fact that black children face a 38% poverty rate and African-Americans as a group face a 27% poverty rate. This analysis questioning Sanders's appeal to minority voters also ignores a finding from Pew Research that states, "In 2011, the typical white household had a net worth of $91,405, compared with $6,446 for black households."....
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Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)Between the super-consequential endorsement endorsement of "Killer Mike" (who I am a fan of), to the proclimations that Hillary will be the least effective evah (OMG OMG OMG). People posting these things cannot be considered serious.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)sorry...
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Or whether his endorsement carries weight with anyone. Do you? I find your condescending and nasty dismissal of this rather odd.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)When Obama endorsed the idea of marriage equality, overnight the numbers jumped in favor of a vote for gay and lesbian couples marrying.
Young people, I think can be influenced somewhat if a favorite author, performer, etc., endorses someone or something.
"Carry no weight at all" is a statement that is easy to espouse, but not likely to be true.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This is a very solid endorsement.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Can't achieve one without the other. Sanders is for both. Clinton "evolves" on one and only pays lip service to the other.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)I like people who evolve that shows they cable of listening
and learning
That is what is wrong with the GOP they can't evolve, far from
it they keep going backward
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Is paying lip service. That's being polite. Some may call it being disingenuous or lying. That works too.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)She is very progressive: she is a senator from New York,
. New Yorkers are very progressive
They elected Clinton twice, they think she is progressive!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Is her support for Wall St, outsourcing jobs, and war. On the rest, she blows with the wind. If you want to vote for a tumbleweed for president, then you are free to do so.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Hillary, has not voted in the Senate for 8 years: Sanders
was in the Senate, when Bush and the GOP sent out 50,000 factories went out of the country:
I guess we can concluded he Sanders in favor of out sourcing jobs too!
Hillary doesn't blow with the wind: She has been a loyal Dem for 26
years: Hillary has been on out on the world stage fighting the GOP.
In fact the reason, people want to vote for Hillary is because they know
where she stands and she has earned the American peoples trust.
Sander is the one that bounced around like a tumbleweed until he was 73 years old,
never focusing and getting things done.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)All of them job-killers. I doubt you have to worry, it sounds like you're a decade away from entering the job market.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)NO, the GOP policy are job killers, there were jobs under Clintons,
and are now under the Obama's
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roguevalley
(40,656 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Again, Glass-Steagal, is neither here nor there, but what
be can be sure over time, the GOP are greedy and incompetent.
Hoover crashed the economy almost identical to they way Bush did:
austerity, and tax cuts for the rich.
No Glass-Steagal, in Hoover's time: it was just the GOP same old, same old, failing
policy
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)G-S served well as a firewall between commercial banking and investment banking for 60-odd years, preventing another 1929 type collapse. It's repeal, signed by CLINTON, allowed banks to gamble recklessly, even fraudulently, which meant what would have been a mild recession under Bush to become a near economic collapse.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Glass-Steagal would not have stood in the Bushes or the GOP
greedy way: Getting rid of Glass was R tx phi Ghram request.
Heck, they decided it was legal torture people
What brought down American was Bush and GOP polices, as
do everywhere else they are implemented
Even in your post: The Banks gamble recklessly: Not Clinton:
Banks committed fraud: Not Clinton:
The mild recession was under Bush was because: Bush chose to not to spend
anything on the economy, Bush chose to cut taxes on rich, and the reckless
gambling and went on under him. (he thought it was okay and good
and thing).
He could have used to the SEC to of after the excesses: He didn't want to
be believed the less regulation the better for his friends. .
Clinton is not responsible the Bush's collapse any more than he is for 911
Glass, is just a left wing talk show hosts pet issue, I don't think it played much
of a role in Bush' awful Presidency.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)There is no "here or there" about it.
You're not very good at this.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Like I said Glass it is a left wing pet issue. Glass doesn't account for 8 years of Bush!
Its a big thing on the Tom Hartman show, but about nowhere else.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Gramm, one of the Republican architects of tearing down Glass-Steagall.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Not a Dem thing(not that Dem don't do some deregulations) , if Glass was such a problem for the country
the GOP had the votes to fix it if they wanted to.
The GOP liked all the gambling and they did' not see what their buddies did was fraud:
The GOP liked everything Bush was going, the GOP thinks greed is a good thing
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)hell bent on placing all bad blame on democrats. They will fight to protect republicans from the damage they have done. I am glad you recognize it. Dems aren't perfect and I would never say they are. But damn, these people are seriously invested. They are calling you names and taking cheap shots. Keep holding your own. You have support.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)I have several more, and none of them are at all flattering.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Don't want to go by the way side and get more hides.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Alert swarms are happening with some regularity and the Bernie people more or less control the board now, and the juries for the most part.
frylock
(34,825 posts)right time, right place.
London Lover Man
(371 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Hillary is a liberal, and progressive: she believes in sharing politics:
if she didn't she would have joined the GOP and gotten rich.
It's Sanders supporters that are being disingenuous, they want to
take a ways 26 years of progressive work Hillary has done.
Sander's is the one without resume to support him, he sat in
a small state doing nothing but talk.
Hillary has actually done the work and lead the Dem party
I think what you really of object to about Hillary is that she very
smart, kind, successful person: She is just too uppity for you!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Lemme guess; you think that's middle class.
kath
(10,565 posts), loyal Democrat.
Those types are exactly why we're in the shit we're in, and people are finally waking up to that.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)You are defined by the company you keep.
kath
(10,565 posts)To BOTH sentences in your post!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)They found away for the Dem's to win: I am very grateful to
them, under the Clinton's I lived under competent Dem administration.
I also admire the Clinton strength in fighting the GOP on behave
of the Dem's, both personally and professionally
If I have any complaint about Obama is that he seem a little weak
when stand up against the GOP.
To me the Obama's, the Clintons, and other Dem's that put themselves out
in public to and raise money for the Dem, are true the heroes in the Dem
party
They don't just heckle from the sides, they get in the fight for America,
something Sanders never did until he was 73.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)smdh
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)
It's like someone asked cleverbot a question in Russian and ran the result through babelfish.London Lover Man
(371 posts)Hillary converted to a Democrat in 1989?
Thanks for confirming my suspicions....
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)What word did I misspell?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure what is out there to help you.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)
Metric System
(6,048 posts)
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I'd like to suggest that you not feed the trolls on your thread.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)there's Lil B:
http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.34675/title.lil-b-endorses-presidential-candidate-bernie-sanders
Last week, the Berkeley, California rapper expressed his “love” for the Vermont senator and his family. Days later, Lil B gave Sanders his official endorsement via Twitter.
“As much as I want to a woman leading the USA, right now it's all about Bernie @BernieSanders @SenSanders he's the real he loves us - Lil B,” Lil B tweeted yesterday (July 15).
“It's official I support @SenSanders! His call 4 the restoration of the voters rights act sealed the deal for me,” Killer Mike said in a tweet sent on June 29.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)McCaskill's deep pockets stand out even in the millionaire's club that is the U.S. Senate. The Center for Responsive Politics ranks McCaskill as the 12th-richest of 100 senators, with a net worth between $15.6 million and $27.5 million.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/claire-mccaskill-s-wealth-comes-into-focus/article_0e8be6a2-99ad-59c0-9240-54767ef29f5a.html
She is all about the $$$$$$$$.
Jamie Dimon for VP?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Sanders is pro gun
corkhead
(6,119 posts)that topic has already been covered thoroughly on DU and I am not going to waste my time arguing with you about it.
Go ahead and vote for your friend of the oligarchs.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)I'd put you on ignore but I am afraid I would miss your 5th hide.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)but it undermines the PoC belong to Clinton meme.
George II
(67,782 posts)Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)
zappaman
(20,606 posts)But celebrity endorsements don't mean anything to me.
If he gets people to vote though...
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Keep it up! It's brilliant!!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...to find an equal amount of lunacy and delusion. It's like trying to debate the Justin Bieber fan club.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)and I don't expect a different outcome.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)they have not endorsed Bernie. A problem for Bernie getting anything accomplished with Congress.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)About 530 self-absorbed assholes.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Is that an endorsement or a curse?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Most people like their members of Congress, part of the reason that incumbents are so likely to be reelected.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)Lone Rapper Endorsement Spells Trouble for Bernie as Hillary Racks up Multiple Rapper Endorsements.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/21/politics/hillary-clinton-rapper-endorsements-50-cent-ja-rule-waka-flocka-snoop-dogg-youth-vote/
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Surely I'm not the only person on this forum who doesn't pay any attention to rap.
OTOH, I'm a science fiction geek, and while I haven't yet noticed much political talk in the s-f world, I can tell you that lots of people there are very liberal. Very.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)151K followers on Twitter and 119K on Instagram.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)
brooklynite
(94,683 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)What does he have to do with endorsing Democrats in the Democratic primaries?
Whatever. Bernie beats trump.
brooklynite
(94,683 posts)Twitter:
RKM - 151,000
Trump - 3,250,000
Instagram:
RKM - 119,000
Trump - 232,000
LWolf
(46,179 posts)aren't going to be voting in a Democratic Primary, and Bernie leads Trump 43/39.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/07/bush-leads-gop-field-in-virginia-but-clinton-ahead-for-general.html
frylock
(34,825 posts)
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)HUGH and SERIES !!!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)endorsement means more than this rapper I never heard of. But whatever.
oasis
(49,398 posts)
tymorial
(3,433 posts)These posts are getting more and more preposterous. Some rapper's endorsement is going to cause trouble for a candidate? Considering that the average age demographic of voters is over 50, what is the likelihood that they will know and care about a rapper named Killer Mike? Sure, there are of course some... Perhaps there are many. A number sufficient to effect the voting pool at large? I think I said preposterous didn't i?
matt819
(10,749 posts)And I can't stand rap.
But I can't disagree with his not Bush/not Clinton attitude. That may be silly, but, hey, it's what I think. And, yes, if she's the nominee, I'll vote for her.
Still, if she or Bush wins the next two terms, that means that a Bush or Clinton would have been president for 28 out of the previous 36 years. That bothers me a bit.
Surely there are other people without those names who would like to be and/or would be a good president: Sanders, O'Malley, Gore, Biden. I think we're safe from Bush offspring from this point on.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I'm stealing it.
olddots
(10,237 posts)he has normal people endorcers and the celebs that are endorcing him do it because they actually care about his ideals and honesty .
This election isn't about market share its about justice for all .
