2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders backs big bank breakups, in contrast with Hillary Clinton
Noting that hes long supported reimposing a firewall between investment and commercial banks, the Vermont senator said hes officially rejoining an effort led by Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) to break up the big banks, saying, 'If we are truly serious about ending too big to fail, we have got to break up the largest financial institutions in this country...'
By moving quickly to reassert his support for a proposal from liberal superstar Warren, Sanders is highlighting the differences between his platform and Clintons more centrist positions on financial regulations, a major issue among progressives. Sanders actually cosponsored a version of the bill in 2013, well before he began challenging Clinton for the Democratic nomination, and in a press release reminded reporters of a speech he gave in 1999 as a House member.
'Sixteen years ago, I predicted that such a massive deregulation of the financial services industry would seriously harm the economy. I would give anything to have been proven wrong about this, but unfortunately, what happened seven years ago was even worse than I predicted,' Sanders said.
In 1999, Congress passed legislation rewriting the financial rule book for banks, and it was signed by President Bill Clinton."
Full link: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-big-ban-break-ups-glass-steagall-120287.html
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)think
(11,641 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)think
(11,641 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)controls congress. And we could get the senate back too. So we should have someone who says they are a democrat, even though they support big banks and Wall Street over people, but it's okay, cuz it won't pass in the republican house.
With her views, I worry what she WILL sign, and what she WILL NOT veto!
Done with Bush/Clinton.
THIS....is how we got into this mess.
No 'lesser' a fool, than to believe your own comment here.
gobears10
(310 posts)Newt Gingrich admitted Glass-Steagall's repeal was probably a mistake, and David Vitter (R-Louisiana) supports limiting bank size. This isn't as partisan of an issue as you think.
Hillary Clinton is to the right of some Republicans on this issue, haha.
London Lover Man
(371 posts)says so!
Steve Leser does not make any sense because he's deeply intertwined in the bubble.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)He's actually pretty good at negotiating with Rs.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)But interesting nonetheless.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'm not sure what that's all about, but...just no.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)negotiating with Republicans to accomplish anything of substance that the Republicans involved didn't already want to do.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251451772#post1
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Lee Fang describes how he managed to get through a bill that expanded health care coverage for a lot of poor people by instituting a system of community health clinics, at the same time as the Republicans were vigorously fighting increased access to affordable health care via the ACA (Affordable Care Act or Obamacare).
Despite the inherent limitations of a self-described democratic socialist who eschews the norms of Beltway fundraising, the Democratic presidential candidate from Vermont has won legislative victory after victory on an issue that has been dear to him since his days as Burlingtons mayor. That issue is the simultaneously benign and revolutionary expansion of federally qualified community health clinics. Over the years, Sanders has tucked away funding for health centers in appropriation bills signed by George W. Bush, into Barack Obamas stimulus program, and through the earmarking process. But his biggest achievement came in 2010 through the Affordable Care Act. In a series of high-stakes legislative maneuvers, Sanders struck a deal to include $11 billion for health clinics in the law.
The result has made an indelible mark on American health care, extending the number of people served by clinics from 18 million before the ACA to an expected 28 million next year.
Read more: http://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2015/07/09/how-bernie-sanders-gets-things-done/#ixzz3gAo23DuF
And
But the Senates lone socialist and a potential 2016 presidential candidate did just that negotiating a deal over the weekend to tackle wait times at the Department of Veterans Affairs and clear his biggest legislative test since he took over the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee gavel last year.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/bernie-sanders-new-title-dealmaker
And
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-bernie-sanders-fought-for-our-veterans-119708.html#ixzz3gAotCiJO
That's just a sampling.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)accomplishments. All Senators get amendments tucked into bills.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)you don't acknowledge that he knows how to get things done when Republicans are in the majority.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)They will pass NOTHING he proposes. NOTHING. And they will brag about it to their constituents and get rewarded for it.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I hope, in all sincerity, to be able to prove you wrong.
And when it happens, I think you'll be glad that I did.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)if we don't the entire administrations of two recent Democratic Presidents to point to in order to judge how Republicans will behave.
I don't know why 100% of Democrats/Liberals/Progressives don't get this:
They DO NOT CARE what any Democratic President has to say or propose. An exception was the TPP because the GOP is all about Free Trade. So of course, they supported that, but even there, it was controversial for some Republicans to vote for it because of the appearance of supporting Obama, i.e. a Democratic President. If you don't get that, if you don't internalize that example, I can't help you.
It frankly doesn't matter much which Democrat is elected this time. The GOP will pass NOTHING. The important things are:
#1 - That a Democratic President is elected at all
#2 - That we fight for control of the senate
#3 - That people vote for the Democratic candidate for state legislature/state senate etc., this election, in 2018 and 2020 so we can control redistricting so that we can have a shot again to take back the house in 2022 or 2024.
This entire Bernie Sanders thing is wasted effort.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)You, and the rest of the country, will be better off if I'm right than if you are.
If what you are saying is "right," it won't matter WHO is POTUS, we'll all be screwed anyway.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)we have allowed ourselves to be out-maneuvered on the re-districting front, allowing the GOP to take over way too many state legislatures following the 2010 election.
I don't know who was responsible for missing that the Republicans were going for this, but it meant we have no chance of winning both houses of congress from 2012 - 2022 at least because of the House of Representatives. Given Republicans current behavior, that effectively stopped any Democratic legislation for 10+ years. Its probably going to be 12 years because 2022 is a midterm election. Assuming a Democratic president, we tend not to do well in those.
We're screwed for that long.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)that is why we must have a candidate who can be competitive in areas that traditionally
have not voted Democratic.
That is the only way to break past the gerrymandering and retake both the House and Senate
and state legislatures.
I realize that you can't even conceive of how Bernie might do that and that you will
not accept that possibility.
You are locked into the old thinking. Bernie will have to prove it to you.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)If you want me to accept that Bernie can accomplish something exceptional, you need to provide exceptional evidence.
Instead, the opposite is out there. He has accomplished absolutely nothing exceptional legislatively.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)He is speaking to ordinary citizens.
There is nothing magical about speaking directly to people about the things that they care about.
It is simply a lost art in the Democratic Party.
The old thinking that I am talking about has to do with delivering a poll-tested message
as in the $900,000 that Hillary spent on polling last quarter. Not only will it not win back the House, it makes her an uninspiring candidate.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)If it truly doesn't matter to you, isn't there something better that you could do with your time?
Personally, I DO believe it matters. I believe it matters a great deal.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)For me as far as I am concerned.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)It's not like an amendment has any less force of law.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)He Wants. And that's being kind.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)are unaware of what this candidacy is about.
But for those who do, Bernie is the only hope for this country to end the corrosive purchasing of our politicians and government in this race. Which is why as soon as people know who he is, what his record is, they are sold. The ONLY hurdle facing him is getting the people to know him. And so far, his army of volunteers is doing a great job of that.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)that she needs to trick into voting for her. Therefore she avoids the question.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)just feel you should rule that one out
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)which she thinks will help her win this election. That is the problem, one of the problems, with accepting this kind of money.
Bernie otoh, is completely free to speak his mind and doesn't have to wait to 'unveil' his policies after they have been vetted by special interests.
That's the sad thing, we will never really know where Hillary stands, or any candidate who is beholden to big money.
Which is why this is the most important issue in this campaign, to get this poisonous money out of our government.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)just so you know
think
(11,641 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)think
(11,641 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)truer words were never spoken
because too big to fail really means 'heads we win, tails you lose, and then we win anyway, because you go into debt to make us win'
how the f--k can you lose, with that kind of setup? completely rigged game
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Much better than being a Zombie for Banksters...which seems to be what another candidate's followers expect everyone to be.
No thanks to being a Zombie.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Bernie's appeals to morality and ethics just make the Democratic Party weaker.