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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:45 PM Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders Largerst Turnout Yet in Phoenix! Reports say 11,000!



People For Bernie ?@People4Bernie 3h



Domenick wants @BernieSanders to be POTUS so his friends won't join the military to pay for college #FeelTheBern


Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders 27m



Tonight more than 11,000 friends and I sent a powerful message to the billionaire class: You can’t have it all!


Will post more photos as they come in!

#FeelTheBern
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Bernie Sanders Largerst Turnout Yet in Phoenix! Reports say 11,000! (Original Post) sabrina 1 Jul 2015 OP
Watched Streaming on YouTube udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #1
Cool! Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2015 #2
Amazing, Social Media is on fire for Bernie! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3
ikr! so exciting to see an authentic progressive lead on the issues that concern ordinary folks. No question Bernie has the Big Mo. Go Bernie Go! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #27
I have no doubt that Bernie will act like a Dem when elected, he has a long sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #6
You're so right sabrina. The word everybody keeps using is "authentic" and it fits Bernie like a glove. It's why he's spent ZERO on polling... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #29
I believe it was around $900K, wrote another OP about that and that is my sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #34
^K&R^ zentrum Jul 2015 #84
Holy cow. moondust Jul 2015 #4
Someone on Social Media wants to know if we can count how many people sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #5
Not much diversity in that crowd. George II Jul 2015 #32
Haven't you learned anything about trying that old meme? Not much diversity sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #35
That's my point, people have no qualms about pointing out the demographics... George II Jul 2015 #69
Care to show us all those posts about that, other than the one that was a response sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #74
First, that's just bullshit. Second, get back to us when HIllary draws 11,000 this morningfog Jul 2015 #103
You need new schtick. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #49
You could say that again! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #77
When one can't stand behind issues, one has to grasp for straws. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #95
Not much diversity in your posts. cui bono Jul 2015 #63
this. they DO NOT help Secretary Clinton. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #64
You know, that's a good question, I've wondered about that myself sometimes. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #91
As big as the 'intertubes' are LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #109
. Autumn Jul 2015 #68
Stop pretending knowledge you do not have! TM99 Jul 2015 #67
It's disappointing that you had to explain that to anyone here. But thank you so much for doing it. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #92
I read your excellent OP on the event. Thank you for posting the FACTS, they sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #97
whites outnumbered blacks in by 60% to 5% the Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale metro areas magical thyme Jul 2015 #73
I watched it in real time - streaming video - last night. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #81
And it turns out you couldn't be more wrong. Apparently the crowd was very diversified sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #86
So what's your point? Are you afraid to actually say what you are intimating? rhett o rick Jul 2015 #94
The OP in essence acknowledges that by adding an AA man as the only pic of an individual. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #98
I don't know. Why not ask how many are gay? Ask. Fearless Jul 2015 #102
Wow. 11,000. Autumn Jul 2015 #7
Just heard, but not yet confirmed, it may be 12, 000! In a RED STATE!! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #8
Obama got 1,025,232 votes in the 2012 presidential election in Arizona - and lost the state. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #13
Lol, a sitting president compared to a virtual unknown? Not much of an analogy there. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #15
But it was important to piss on the thread Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #18
They really had to dig deep to find something....anything....hee nt artislife Jul 2015 #25
I know, they keep trying and Bernie keeps soaring. Maybe they're helping him? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #36
That was the objective. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #52
No the objective was to put numbers in perspective. In January 2008 Obama drew 13,000 in Phoenix, PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #70
January Enthusiast Jul 2015 #71
And Bernie drew 12,000 without the Party machine behind him, with only sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #75
January of 2016 Utopian Leftist Jul 2015 #80
Exactly! He just keeps on telling the truth and people keep on sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #83
That is amazing Autumn Jul 2015 #14
That's incredible! Band starts to play...keep on rockin in the free world... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #33
Lol, 'Keep on rockin' in the free world'! I like Bernie's choice of music. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #37
bernmentum restorefreedom Jul 2015 #9
I can't wait until he comes to NY. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #16
are you going to be able to go? restorefreedom Jul 2015 #17
If he comes anywhere within a six hour drive absolutely. Hopefully we will sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #20
hope he does restorefreedom Jul 2015 #22
I would love that! I imagine he would be a fascinating person to have a conversation sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #38
This one made me choke up BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #10
I know, it is so sad that the system we live in seems almost designed to sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #12
Until I worked at an "inner city" school, I believed we need a US jobs BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #30
I don't know if you remember this, but the clause that was buried in NCLB whereby sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #40
I did not know that BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #56
I'm sure you would find it in the archives here. It was a horrendous and egregious sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #65
No, but you can sign paperwork to opt out. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #82
Good for him, it should not be in there, it needs to be removed, signing our sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #90
I remember that clause, and it was (or still is) total fucking bullshit. kath Jul 2015 #58
I thank you for YOUR service artislife Jul 2015 #43
The poor enlist at a lower rate than the rich, though Recursion Jul 2015 #45
Well, considering one needs a high school or equivalency diploma to enlist, Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #50
That's the main driver there Recursion Jul 2015 #51
Good opportunity. Maybe.... daleanime Jul 2015 #85
A good opportunity for what? To die are be permanently maimed in our wars for profit? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #108
It seems that "working and middle class" join the military BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #57
True, that's the bulk of enlistments Recursion Jul 2015 #59
+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #53
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #11
My nephew sent me pics of the turnout gwheezie Jul 2015 #19
Excellent. Bernie is attracting a lot of young people to his campaign. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #21
All the younger generation in my family support bernie gwheezie Jul 2015 #23
It is good BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #31
They must had a bunch of fun!! nt artislife Jul 2015 #26
This is incredible. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #24
I listened on the live link. SoapBox Jul 2015 #28
Beat the drums and sound the pipes. Cleita Jul 2015 #39
There is a shift, no doubt about it, and its making a lot of people very nervous! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #41
I don't care if they are nervous. I don't want them doing dirty, nasty tactics to win. eom Cleita Jul 2015 #42
Can't say I care either if they are nervous, they should be. And I agree, the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #44
I am already being attacked in person by the other candidate's supporters. Cleita Jul 2015 #46
I'm sorry to hear that. The old status quo doesn't seem to want to sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #47
Is your post a line from a song? Irish perhaps? Nt kath Jul 2015 #60
I don't think so. But my late husband was Irish so I heard a lot of Irish music Cleita Jul 2015 #61
I love the Irish (uilleann) pipes. Scottish bagpipes, not so much. kath Jul 2015 #62
The line reminds me of the song the Clancy Bros sang about WW1 sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #78
One of the saddest songs ever, and a great anti-war song. Title is "The Green Fields of France", kath Jul 2015 #79
That's the name of it, thank you. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #87
feel the bern passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #48
I'm feeling it! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #54
Photos and videos do not do it justice. TM99 Jul 2015 #55
Wow, you were there! Lucky you!! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #66
That's a major happening Babel_17 Jul 2015 #72
Yes it is. I just read the OP at the top of the Rec list on the FP. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #89
It was a beautiful experience, so many nice people in one place. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #76
And so many so young. It's a stirring tribute to a great leader. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #88
Yes, I think the young people understand him better than anyone. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #96
Amazing and inspiring. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #93
I've got to find a video. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #99
Reminds me of the way they talked about another presidential nominee contender... SunSeeker Jul 2015 #100
Lol, not even close. Bernie is on the Left on the issues. Paul lost support due to his sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #104
Paul's audience looked a lot like Bernie's, he had appeal in blue states. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #105
Bernie strikes a nerve the PTB didn't know existed. Thirties Child Jul 2015 #101
SunBern! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Feeling the Bern Jul 2015 #106
WOW! blackspade Jul 2015 #107
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
2. Cool!
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

I watched the live stream on YouTube. The chat on YouTube was estimating 12,000!

This was as good as watching Bill Clinton on fire in 1992. Bill didn't act like a Democrat when he was elected, but anyway....


InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. ikr! so exciting to see an authentic progressive lead on the issues that concern ordinary folks. No question Bernie has the Big Mo. Go Bernie Go!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:09 AM
Jul 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. I have no doubt that Bernie will act like a Dem when elected, he has a long
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jul 2015

record that Bill didn't have, to assure us that he is not just talking, he has walked the walk and has been consistent on his convictions and voted accordingly, for over four decades.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. You're so right sabrina. The word everybody keeps using is "authentic" and it fits Bernie like a glove. It's why he's spent ZERO on polling...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:13 AM
Jul 2015

he knows what he believes without having to be programmed... as compared to Hillary (can't find the exact amount she has spent on polling at the moment).

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. I believe it was around $900K, wrote another OP about that and that is my
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:18 AM
Jul 2015

recollection. Yes, Bernie is authentic, and that is what everyone who learns about him, says. He has the record to prove it.

There is no amount of money that can buy that.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. Someone on Social Media wants to know if we can count how many people
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jul 2015

are in this photo! I'm going with the official count, more than 11,000!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. Haven't you learned anything about trying that old meme? Not much diversity
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jul 2015

in Hillary's NH crowd either! OMG, she must have a problem with minorities!!

Btw, are you aware of all the minority groups that have formed for Bernie lately? As they learn about him, they KNOW he is the real deal.

George II

(67,782 posts)
69. That's my point, people have no qualms about pointing out the demographics...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jul 2015

....of Clinton rallies or town halls.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
74. Care to show us all those posts about that, other than the one that was a response
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jul 2015

to all the ones about Bernie? Thanks in advance.

 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
109. As big as the 'intertubes' are
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:52 AM
Jul 2015

they are not that big.

Politicians take note.

(know you know that already Sabrina1, you nail the crap.)

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
67. Stop pretending knowledge you do not have!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:27 AM
Jul 2015

I was there. The crowd was hugely diverse.

I personally was there with an Italian immigrant, two Cubans, and a hispanic. I met my friends from Tucson who are black and hispanic. I am bi-racial. The local Sanders campaigner who helped organize the event and who informed us of the delay is black. The young union woman who introduced him was hispanic.

We were surrounded by a sea of racial diversity - Asians, blacks, latinos, whites, etc.

To say otherwise, is just a lie designed to smear Sanders.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
92. It's disappointing that you had to explain that to anyone here. But thank you so much for doing it.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jul 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
97. I read your excellent OP on the event. Thank you for posting the FACTS, they
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

are still going to be ignored by a certain few who are not especially interested in facts, but most people do want the truth, since they do not have any agenda other than what is best for this country.

Your OP was amazing!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
73. whites outnumbered blacks in by 60% to 5% the Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale metro areas
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jul 2015

in 2012. 30% hispanic. Doubt it's changed dramatically in the last 3 years.

http://www.diversitydata.org/Data/Profiles/Show.aspx?loc=1068

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
81. I watched it in real time - streaming video - last night.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

And there was A LOT of diversity.

You just don't want to see it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
86. And it turns out you couldn't be more wrong. Apparently the crowd was very diversified
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jul 2015

Go read the top rated OP on the FP for the FACTS.

But hey, don't let the facts stop your from continuing to try to make that talking point stick, it only helps Bernie when people see lies being totally debunked, by MINORITIES themselves.

I am so proud of this candidate, proud that he doesn't ever sink to the level of spreading lies about his opponents, or allowing his campaign to do so either, see McCaskill and Gutierriez and Brown.

It's so refreshing to have a candidate who sticks to the issues and will not allow himself to be dragged into this awful negative campaign dirty tricks, something the public is sick and tired of.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
94. So what's your point? Are you afraid to actually say what you are intimating?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jul 2015

You might have more of a point if you could compare a similar rally for HRC and show the difference. But without a comparison, your insinuation is just ugly.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
98. The OP in essence acknowledges that by adding an AA man as the only pic of an individual.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015

Not exactly representative of the crowd, so it is pretty obvious what she is doing.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
102. I don't know. Why not ask how many are gay? Ask.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jul 2015

I mean clearly he doesn't support LGBT rights so long as you say it loudly enough.

It's complete BS. Bernie Sanders is not racist. He fought and continues to fight for equality for all Americans. His record is quite clear on that. He was never against it and never had to "evolve". He knew what was right from the beginning and stuck to it despite what smears people try to throw at him.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Lol, a sitting president compared to a virtual unknown? Not much of an analogy there.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jul 2015

When Bernie has been president for four years, then you can make that comparison.

Right now, the predictions are that Bernie can't attract a crowd in Red States, only in the NE. Well, there goes that prediction, right out the window!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
36. I know, they keep trying and Bernie keeps soaring. Maybe they're helping him?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:25 AM
Jul 2015

Lol! I'm not complaining, people hate the negativity so it's more than likely they are inadvertently helping him, which is cool!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
75. And Bernie drew 12,000 without the Party machine behind him, with only
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jul 2015

donations from ordinary people and an opposing campaign working as hard as they can to try to derail his campaign, working AGAINST the people. So what IS your point?

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
80. January of 2016
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jul 2015

is still five and a half months away.

At the pace that Bernie is burning up his competition, I expect him to be speaking in stadiums by then.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Lol, 'Keep on rockin' in the free world'! I like Bernie's choice of music.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:40 AM
Jul 2015

Poor Repubs, they have no music of their own, so they have to steal ours. Trump AND Rubio, shot down by Neil and Buckwheat for using Liberal music! Lol!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. I can't wait until he comes to NY.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:34 AM
Jul 2015

Been talking to people about him here, and am getting some very positive reactions, many who never heard of him.

But once you tell people about him, show them his record, they are interested right away.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. If he comes anywhere within a six hour drive absolutely. Hopefully we will
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

be hosting house parties, meet ups over the next few months also. And I heard he will be speaking by livestream to these events.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
38. I would love that! I imagine he would be a fascinating person to have a conversation
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Jul 2015

with. But we will be working to help get him elected regardless.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. This one made me choke up
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:06 AM
Jul 2015
Domenick wants @BernieSanders to be POTUS so his friends won't join the military to pay for college #FeelTheBern


That's the big one for me. He could be one of my students. He is so right.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. I know, it is so sad that the system we live in seems almost designed to
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jul 2015

keep people, especially minorities, in poverty so they have no other options than to become victims of the wealthy who profit from these wars.

I am happy to see that young people are beginning to see the way it all works and are now getting behind the only candidate who might be able to begin to turn all this around.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
30. Until I worked at an "inner city" school, I believed we need a US jobs
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jul 2015

program, funded by the tax payers to get things moving. It wasn't until then, that I realized we DO have a jobs program, it's called the military, and if you are born poor, you have to put your life on the line for your future. It makes me sick. I've told the story many times that the only recruiters who came to my school were the cops and the military. I objected to the administration who did nothing, but I did have the pleasure of throwing the marine recruiter out of my classroom who wanted a few more bodies for canon fodder.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
40. I don't know if you remember this, but the clause that was buried in NCLB whereby
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:55 AM
Jul 2015

public schools had to provide info on their students to the Military so that recruiters could pester them starting at age 14 or so, to sign up for Imperial Wars.

If the schools refused, they would lose funding. It was pretty shocking that people who represent us, including many Dems, voted for that horrific 'education' bill.

I remember parents complaining about recruiters harassing them to try to get their children to sign up early for the military when they, the parents did not want this for their children.

Don't know if that is still going on. But it demonstrated the lengths they are willing to go to to get children, naturally the poor, to enlist to fight their wars for profit.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
65. I'm sure you would find it in the archives here. It was a horrendous and egregious
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 04:41 AM
Jul 2015

thing to do. As far as I know, it was never removed from the Bill.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
82. No, but you can sign paperwork to opt out.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

I wanted to do that for my son (who is now 16) but he asked me not to. He said he'd rather just tell them "no" himself.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
90. Good for him, it should not be in there, it needs to be removed, signing our
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

children up for their wars is just sickening, and threatening schools with removing their funding if they refuse to do so, is simply despicable.

Your son sounds like a great kid!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
45. The poor enlist at a lower rate than the rich, though
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:16 AM
Jul 2015

It's actually nearly impossible to enlist if you come from the poorest 20% of the population.

The military, on the whole, is significantly richer and better educated than the US population.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
51. That's the main driver there
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:39 AM
Jul 2015

But it also means kids in the bottom 20% are essentially locked out of the military, for the most part. Which we should probably re-think, because it can be a really good opportunity.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
108. A good opportunity for what? To die are be permanently maimed in our wars for profit?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:48 AM
Jul 2015

I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers on this, but there are far too many poor people, and we also have enlisted indigenous people from other nations, last I checked which was years ago, at least 30,000 poor, indigenous native people from Canada, and/or S. American countries, enticed by promises of college, US citizenship, which doesn't often happen, etc.

The military is an opportunity to die for someone else's profits at this point.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
57. It seems that "working and middle class" join the military
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:58 AM
Jul 2015

So the poorest of the poor, perhaps not, but that is not my experience. And I am also addressing kids who can't afford college but are qualified really have very little choice given them. That's because college in our country is too damned expensive.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/whos-joining-the-us-military-poor-women-and-minorities-targeted/43418/

A 2008 study from Syracuse University examines the extent to which the poor and minorities are disproportionately selected into the military. While Amy Lutz, the author of the study, writes that relatively little research has examined this question empirically, although the Department of Defense keeps annual records on the race and gender of military personnel.

Lutz relays that a study done in 1980 found that from 1940 to 1973 blacks were less likely to join the military than whites, while in more recent years, a 2006 study concluded that blacks are overrepresented in the military. The same 2006 study found that people who serve in the military come from more well-off neighborhoods than those who have not joined the military — although the economic elite are underrepresented in armed service.

Lutz’s study also looks at the history of participation of the three largest racial and ethnic groups in the military — whites, blacks and Latinos — and examined ethnicity, immigrant generation and socioeconomic status in relation to military service. It concluded that significant disparities exist only by socioeconomic status, finding “the all-volunteer force continues to see overrepresentation of the working and middle classes, with fewer incentives for upper class participation.”

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
59. True, that's the bulk of enlistments
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:02 AM
Jul 2015

But the top 20% enlist at a higher rate than the bottom 20%. The highest representation IIRC is the second poorest quintile, followed by the middle, then the second richest, then the richest, with the poorest quintile last.

Lutz relays that a study done in 1980 found that from 1940 to 1973 blacks were less likely to join the military than whites, while in more recent years, a 2006 study concluded that blacks are overrepresented in the military.

Yup. That's a crucial distinction. African Americans enlist at a slightly lower rate than whites, but tend to stay in the military much longer (and so wind up highly overrepresented among the Staff NCO corps).

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
19. My nephew sent me pics of the turnout
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jul 2015

He's so excited and fired up. He bought a carload of people with him.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. Excellent. Bernie is attracting a lot of young people to his campaign.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jul 2015

Great that your nephew was there!

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
23. All the younger generation in my family support bernie
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jul 2015

I'm very happy for them especially the 2 who did multiple combat tours. Bernie is speaking to them. You may have gathered Bernie is not my 1st choice but just a smidge I'm glad so many younger folks I know are not only interested but actually volunteering. It's good for democracy.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
31. It is good
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jul 2015

I saw the same kind of excitement with Obama. It makes people politically aware and interested so they can't get fooled by MSM and Fox New propaganda.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. Can't say I care either if they are nervous, they should be. And I agree, the
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jul 2015

nasty tactics are not acceptable at all, but how do your stop them? We have to be ready to react instantly to their attacks, to find out if possible, who they are and expose them.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
46. I am already being attacked in person by the other candidate's supporters.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:16 AM
Jul 2015

Unfortunately, our local Dem central committee is part of it, so it seems we Bernie supporters have to work outside of them. What's cool though is one of our active local politicians is sponsoring a Bernie meet up.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. I'm sorry to hear that. The old status quo doesn't seem to want to
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:21 AM
Jul 2015

change. People are going to work outside them. Things have reached the point where we don't have the time or patience to cater to those who are so willfully blind to the problems people face in this country.

Either join in the effort or get out of the way, because like it or not, the corrupt system we are living under, has to go.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
61. I don't think so. But my late husband was Irish so I heard a lot of Irish music
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:08 AM
Jul 2015

but I don't remember that specific line in any of the patriot songs. It could have been buried in my subconscience. I was just thinking it would be cool to have pipes and drums for a movement march.

kath

(10,565 posts)
62. I love the Irish (uilleann) pipes. Scottish bagpipes, not so much.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:21 AM
Jul 2015

Half-Irish here.
Those 2 lines really do sound like an Irish song of rebellion. Will try googling tomorrow.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
78. The line reminds me of the song the Clancy Bros sang about WW1
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

I think it was about a young soldier named Willie McBride who died in WW1. 'Did they beat the drums slowly, did they ........ Did the rifles fire o'er you as they lowered you down'. Can't remember all the words, but her phrase reminded me of that song's chorus.

kath

(10,565 posts)
79. One of the saddest songs ever, and a great anti-war song. Title is "The Green Fields of France",
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015

, written by an Aussie. I'm most familiar with the version recorded by The Fureys and Davey Arthur. (Didn't know that The Clancy Brothers recorded it)

when I Googled her post, that song was what came up most often.
BUT, that song doesn't include anything about a new regime rising. Just sad, mournful stuff about the awful futility of war.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
87. That's the name of it, thank you.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jul 2015

There are several versions by the Clancy Bros, this is one of them, just beautiful, and so sad:

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
55. Photos and videos do not do it justice.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:51 AM
Jul 2015

It was freaking awesome! A bit overwhelming for me as I really don't do well in crowds anymore. But I am soooo glad I went.

Go Sanders!

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
72. That's a major happening
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jul 2015

After an event like that, and with the reception he got, the whole state will be abuzz about Sanders. That's the way to the White House for him. When people discuss him, and his campaign, they tend to decide that he's their choice for President.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
89. Yes it is. I just read the OP at the top of the Rec list on the FP.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jul 2015

It is well worth reading as the OP was there and describes the very diverse crowd, and the excitement of the event. Amazing really.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
88. And so many so young. It's a stirring tribute to a great leader.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jul 2015

Thank you Bernie Sanders for your moral guidance, your strength and good judgment. You are what America needs.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
100. Reminds me of the way they talked about another presidential nominee contender...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:29 PM
Jul 2015
Ron Paul Draws Record-Breaking Crowd at UCLA, is the Revolution Finally Catching Fire?

Republican presidential contender Ron Paul may be trailing the rest of the GOP pack in the primaries, but he also seems to be the only candidate who is able to bring in huge crowds to his speeches.

Is Paul's popularity on the rise?

Speaking in California Wednesday night to an overflow crowd at a tennis center at UCLA, Paul drew what might have been his biggest audience yet. Estimates put the crowd total at between 6,000 to 10,000 people, filling into the 5,800-seat stadium, with others climbing nearby trees to see the speech.


http://mic.com/articles/6513/ron-paul-draws-record-breaking-crowd-at-ucla-is-the-revolution-finally-catching-fire

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
104. Lol, not even close. Bernie is on the Left on the issues. Paul lost support due to his
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:43 PM
Jul 2015

domestic policies on Social Programs. Are you seriously unaware of the vast differences between someone who supports the Dem Party's traditional, since FDR, policies on Social Safety Nets, and a Libertarian who opposes everything Bernie stands for AND as polls show, the PEOPLE stand for?

Seriously? If you want to have a rational discussion on why Paul plummeted while Bernie continues to rise, let me know. I will be more than happy to have that discussion.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
105. Paul's audience looked a lot like Bernie's, he had appeal in blue states.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

Of course they are completely different in terms of political positions, except maybe on the issue of guns. But Paul attracted students and the disaffected with his talk of revolution. He had huge rallies and devoted followers. He got millions every time he did an online "money bomb" campaign. Paul's popularity eventually died off around the time of the GOP convention, but at this point of the campaign, he was still on the rise, much like Bernie. That link was a story on Paul's record-breaking rally at UCLA in April of 2012. We'll see where Bernie is in April of 2016, and around the time of the Dem convention.

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