Bad strategy to burn the bridges you'll be needing.

You may be underestimating your candidate. If Bernie is the person you think he is, he of all people may recognize this for what it is. Why would you think Bernie would not attempt to address these concerns because he got shouted down at one event? Your feelings are hurt, don't put that on Bernie

...unless there's parties behind the curtain who will benefit from driving a wedge between progressives and minorities, who are natural allies.

take buys. Lies, deceptions, the politics of personal destruction.

But times have changed since they were able to get away with this kind of despicable campaigning.

Social Media is all over them the minute they start.

Bernie continues to soar, and the harm they hoped would stop his rise is resulting in a backlash on their own candidate. Her numbers continue to drop, while his continue to rise.

Who benefits from driving a wedge between progressives and minorities?

and protestors seeking to get their word out are going to try and get that media exposure.

It was NOT a mistake to do what BLM did yesterday! NOBODY has the right to tell the people who are being MURDERED just because of their skin color how and when it's appropriate to express their anger about it!

My god, this is NOT about Bernie, it's about people who are crying out and need to be heard! So what, that his little speech got messed up? What the hell IS the priority here? Not to inconvenience us nice white progressives with loud, messy direct action?

If Bernie is all that - and I'm certainly hoping that he will prove himself to be so - then he will take protestors' message to heart and reach out to them and open a real dialogue with them and place for them in his campaign.

Pressing for radical change is NOT about being polite. It's not about observing customary niceties. It's not about not discomfitting anyone. It's about disruption, it's about transgression, it's about letting your outrage be known - especially where there are others who would hopefully "get it"! You give those who claim to be on your side a chance to really prove it!

And dammit, it's just blowing my mind and breaking my heart to see all the posts since yesterday from all the people who love to claim they're on the side of POC, doing all this tut-tutting about how the BLM behaved badly and how it wasn't fair to Bernie.

And then, even worse, those that have been ginning up a bunch of conspiracy shit that absolutely DISMISSES and DEVALUES the very real pain and suffering that motivated the BLM people to take the action they did - as if there were no higher value to defend than a political campaign! A political campaign! More important than people who are actually dying?!?!

I feel deeply ashamed and embarrassed to be identified as a white progressive when I see all this shit.

Advice: don't fucking give advice to people who have been living through shit you will never have live through. Just shut up and listen and then ask what you can do.

Their concerns are extremely valid. What I have a problem with is the blatant misleading spin which took place afterward.

You want to be a civil rights hero today, here and now? Then up your game and include them.

No amount of spin can hurt you if you're acting in integrity.

Frankly, the worst spin I've been seeing has been self-inflicted. Instead of embracing and welcoming the righteous message of the protestors, too many are getting defensive and paranoid. It's pathetic, it's disgusting.

Stand up, stand with the protestors, have faith in what you claim your guy believes in.

If I am wrong, they are free to tell me that I am wrong. I defended Guttierez when she disrupted Obama's celebration even though she was roundly condemned on DU. I am all for direct action. In this case I thought the target was ill-chosen. If I am wrong, show me I am wrong. But don't tell me that I have no right to even express an opinion.

You are apparently operating under the misconception that POC have any reason to want or need your opinion of how they conduct their protest.

I think that's incredibly condescending and arrogant of you, and you ought to be embarrassed.

like a good little white boy.

People who are drowning don't politely raise their hands and wait their turn in hopes that someone will notice or get around to helping them.

Black Americans are dealing with an emergency. Their children are being killed in the streets. They are being attacked in places of worship. They are dying suspiciously in jails. They are disproportionally targeted by law enforcement, and disproportionally represented in the prison population.

ANYTHING that brings more light to their plight is an appropriate action. People that are arguing that they should have waited, been polite, had a dialogue, do not understand the urgency of the situation.

Makes more sense to die quietly so as not to inconvenience anyone.

I hope the sarcasm tag is unnecessary.....

... is that I completely support BLM and what they are trying to achieve. I would be less than honest not say that this incident has left a very bad taste in my mouth.

You don't build support or get things done by crapping on your allies. I've asked several times for someone from BLM to please explain their strategy in doing this in this manner. I've yet to hear a reasoned answer.

Where exactly is your conversation happening. I'm curious.

Cause I don't think it's members spend much time on DU looking for your posts to answer your questions.

But maybe you are on another forum asking people who can answer you.

to do it right.

But thanks ever so much for the snark, it's so very becoming.

Bless your heart.

I stated my opinion. If you don't like, that's not my problem. Nor I am I going to argue with you about it.

convenience.

... you certainly are very quick to make a lot of false assumptions.

I'll take the exact same liberties with you.

Bless your heart.

Sit down and shut up.

Got it.

This board has gone fucking nuts.

Please read the other responses in this thread. Apparently you skipped past those to get to mine.

It's exactly what your OP merits.

If the goal is to get people to talk about your issues, stopping the people who are already talking about them is not productive.

I am sure most of them can handle honest disagreement.

You don't seem to realize that I can disagree with them and still respect them.

If this board is any indication of the dismissive attitude that exists among "our own," then "yell" at them FIRST and LOUDEST.

This off-putting attitude of "you should be grateful" is about as non-productive as it gets.

Text is not a perfectly expressive medium. Thus you injected "You should be grateful" into the post. It wasn't there.

Here's Sanders in 1991, in the middle of the "tough on crime" bullshit, under a Republican president, saying that massive incarceration of blacks was bad.

It's been a consistent issue with Sanders for a very long time. The meme that he only cares about older whites is not actually true. And BLM's efforts helped to continue the falsehood.

So how did shouting down Sanders help them, when he was already on-board with their cause?

They didn't feel "on-board" in the least. Instead of asking WHY, we get this STFU attitude, and absolutely NO listening. None.

These dismissive posts reek of "you should be grateful" and "don't bite the hand that feeds you."

Feet to fire, etc...

Sanders's civil rights record is a strength, so anyone who doesn't want Sanders on the ballot is attacking him on it. (Note that this is not saying the Clinton campaign did it. There's many more that want a nice giant fracture in the Democratic party going into the general election). Since he started out more-or-less unknown, his opponents in both parties had a chance to define him before he did. And BLM went with what "everyone knows" instead of looking it up for themselves.

I am not saying STFU. I'm saying do basic research before you attack.

Exhibits A, B, C, and D.

Done here.

It even avoids pesky things like talking about something you don't want to talk about.

Hey...that sounds familiar....

The people who harangued the candidates have a different idea of how to address racism. They feel government programs such as fair housing, equal employment opportunity, job training, etc. have done nothing. The believe talk about better policing, prison reform, etc. is just more of the same. They say racial justice I not tied to economic justice, that we must eliminate structural racism, which may or may nit be the same as institutional racism. I'm not clear on what that means, or what they propose to do. They don't seem to clear, either. As far as I can tell, they are quick to say, "What you're doing is wrong." But they have difficulty explaining what would be right.

You know, the guy in charge???? Or does he get a pass???