2016 Postmortem

eridani

(51,907 posts) Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:31 PM Jul 2015

"Whore" is never an acceptable term to use about any woman candidate, not even Fiorina

It doesn't matter if you mean it in the sense of currying favor with the 1%--it absolutely will be construed as sexual anyway. Absolutely unavoidable given the historical meaning of the term.

(Though I have often said that the difference between a whore and a sec worker is that there are things sex workers won't do for any amount of money.)

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"Whore" is never an acceptable term to use about any woman candidate, not even Fiorina (Original Post) eridani Jul 2015 OP

When is it *ever* acceptable? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #1

Should not be acceptable for ANY Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #2

No getting around the fact that it simply doesn't hav ethe same sexual meaning for men eridani Jul 2015 #3

that is why it should not be used at all Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #6

Agreed, check my journal. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #4

I agree! abakan Jul 2015 #5

It's a word that should go out of usage entirely. okasha Jul 2015 #7

I have some respect for actual whores mindwalker_i Jul 2015 #8

that's in fact what the prostitutes say: putas are the ones who do anything MisterP Jul 2015 #9

Whore: debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money. Zorra Jul 2015 #10

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)

1. When is it *ever* acceptable?

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:33 PM

Jul 2015

It's a word I wouldn't use, and don't like to see used.

That doesn't mean that I go into conniptions over it. And, frankly, I'd sooner see it used for a politician of either sex than for a sex worker.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

2. Should not be acceptable for ANY

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:34 PM

Jul 2015

Candidate, male or female. I hope you do not think it is okay to call a male a whore.

eridani

(51,907 posts)

3. No getting around the fact that it simply doesn't hav ethe same sexual meaning for men

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:36 PM

Jul 2015

The tern "attention whore" is not going out of popular usage anytime soon. The problem with using it about men is, of course, the slippery slope.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

6. that is why it should not be used at all

Reply to eridani (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:56 PM

Jul 2015

The way you posted it sounded like you are fine with calling guys that derogatory term.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

4. Agreed, check my journal.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:38 PM

Jul 2015

This isn't the first gender slur that was used and it won't be the last.

And it's not just because I'm a girl, I don't think ANYONE should be called a whore on DU.

If you go there you deserve everything that comes your way.

abakan

(1,819 posts)

5. I agree!

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:38 PM

Jul 2015

It is a word that should never be used to describe anyone. But since Hillary is female people think it is ok to use when taking about her. I have too much respect for her to ever describe her in those terms. I also believe using it negates your argument and makes you look ignorant. Thanks

okasha

(11,573 posts)

7. It's a word that should go out of usage entirely.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:09 PM

Jul 2015

So should "slut."

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)

8. I have some respect for actual whores

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:27 PM

Jul 2015

They're doing what they need to do to survive and frankly, they make the world a better place and possibly less dangerous in some ways. When it comes to politicians getting money from rich people, like the Koch's, that's a whole different story. I can kind of understand needing money to run a campaign, but some people - mostly republicans - are JUST in it for the money. They suck.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)

9. that's in fact what the prostitutes say: putas are the ones who do anything

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:05 PM

Jul 2015

(funny how one complaint about one jury verdict about one crappy post can create such a tohu va-bohu)

Zorra

(27,670 posts)

10. Whore: debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:47 PM

Jul 2015

Prostitute: put (oneself or one's talents) to an unworthy or corrupt use or purpose for the sake of personal or financial gain.

I agree, to use the term whore, no matter the context, whether as a verb or a noun, in connection with any female candidate, is inviting censor.

It's difficult to find an acceptable synonym to describe politicians who deliberately use their talents to debase themselves by selling out democracy and the people of their country to corporations for personal gain.

Grifter is somewhat similar, and has unigender historical connotations, but doesn't have quite that same descriptive accuracy.

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