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I guess Hillary Clinton never said this (Original Post) Aerows Jul 2015 OP
K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #1
so? Who is suggesting otherwise? However, though some will want to attribute her remarks as still_one Jul 2015 #2
And when she was criTicised her supporters JI7 Jul 2015 #3
ironically, there were multiple threads implying how insensitive to racist she was, which isn't true still_one Jul 2015 #6
Obviously BLM missed it. n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #4
Like missing home plate seveneyes Jul 2015 #8
No kidding n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #9
they didn't miss anything. she was attacked over it JI7 Jul 2015 #10
Attacked by BLM? whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #12
look up Hillary Clinton and all lives matter JI7 Jul 2015 #13
Banksters don't want to swiftboat Hillary, though, she's their chosen candidate. Zorra Jul 2015 #5
Hillary's bug is a feature. Aerows Jul 2015 #7
Also, pictures of Sanders announcement proves he doesn't care about PoC. jeff47 Jul 2015 #11
It's falling on ears Aerows Jul 2015 #17
That picture shows several people of color, and of races/national origions other than white. Agschmid Jul 2015 #22
That the rules are different for Clinton. jeff47 Jul 2015 #24
Yes, she said it and the negative response was well publicized. So the real question is pnwmom Jul 2015 #14
They didn't, and btw, did you know that Sanders defended Hillary to the Media sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #16
Yes, so it appears Hillary has a race problem. She certainly sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #15
It is really interesting. Aerows Jul 2015 #19
We have extrajudicial killings in the streets. Aerows Jul 2015 #18
I always tell the suburbanite diehards--by which I mean more "survivalist" than "conservative" MisterP Jul 2015 #20
It always comes home. Aerows Jul 2015 #21
why d'ya think Negroponte was put in charge of Iraq? MisterP Jul 2015 #23

still_one

(92,381 posts)
2. so? Who is suggesting otherwise? However, though some will want to attribute her remarks as
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

anything from less than sensitive to racist, it isn't, but people are free to think what they want.

Tweets from BLM that O'Malley and Sanders are not "humber" enough, to they are racist are not valid either, but they have every right to that view.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
3. And when she was criTicised her supporters
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jul 2015

Didn't start multiple threads about how she was being attacked and bring up conspiracy theories .

still_one

(92,381 posts)
6. ironically, there were multiple threads implying how insensitive to racist she was, which isn't true
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jul 2015

just as the same accusations leveled at Bernie and O'Malley aren't true, but they do make for good flame-bait

JI7

(89,262 posts)
10. they didn't miss anything. she was attacked over it
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

Her supporters just didn't start multiple threads about how horrible blm is.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
12. Attacked by BLM?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jul 2015

Important distinction. While we're at it, would you have some links to these supporter "attacks"?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
5. Banksters don't want to swiftboat Hillary, though, she's their chosen candidate.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie is the one they are trying to bring down.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Also, pictures of Sanders announcement proves he doesn't care about PoC.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

because there were not a lot of PoC people there. In a 96.4% white city.

But this picture, taken in a 42.1% black city, means nothing in regards to PoC.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
22. That picture shows several people of color, and of races/national origions other than white.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jul 2015

If I had to guess...

I see 67 people... take out Hillary and you get 66.

Based on looks alone (I know what a great measurement, but that's all you gave me) I see 24 people who would likely not identify as Caucasian... so yes it's not quite 42.1% but 36.3% isn't bad.

Not sure what you are getting at with this post?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. That the rules are different for Clinton.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jul 2015

For example, you are lumping in all minority-appearing people and comparing that to 42.1%. Little Rock is 42.1% black, not 42.1% minority. There is nowhere close to half of the people in that picture that appear to be black.

But the point is this metric is incredibly stupid. But "appearance in photo" was pushed as a valid metric by a legion of Clinton supporters when the "Not Good Enough, Bernie" blog came out. That same legion is thrilled with this picture, and does not notice the contradiction.

pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
14. Yes, she said it and the negative response was well publicized. So the real question is
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

why did Sanders and O'Malley flub the golden opportunity they had at Netroots?

Why on earth did O'Malley respond to their concerns by saying "white lives matter"?

Why did Sanders get testy and threaten to leave?

They both knew about Hillary's mistake. I'd have thought they'd have been better prepared to take advantage of their opportunity at Netroots. No one can blame Hillary that they didn't.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. They didn't, and btw, did you know that Sanders defended Hillary to the Media
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jul 2015

after that major gaffe which showed she was completely unaware of the movement and why it existed, when the media tried to get him to slam her for it.

He absolutely refused and defended her risking the kind of nastiness we're seeing from the talking point crowd, being aimed at him.

But then again, that's Bernie, he's a class act and has never stooped to what we are seeing from Hillary's camp right now.

He doesn't have to.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Yes, so it appears Hillary has a race problem. She certainly
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jul 2015

didn't grasp the reason why her use of the phrase would be hurtful to AAs.

Which she would have had she even been aware that there was a movement.

Her comment showed AAs, as many of them said, that she isn't interested in them at all and 'only comes here when she wants our votes'.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. We have extrajudicial killings in the streets.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jul 2015

Killing unarmed men and women that are not only citizens of the US, but on our streets.

Who has been repeatedly bringing this up? It's black people, it's white people and it is people that believe in an equal justice system.

You REALLY need to think hard for a moment.

Who is your enemy?

Many of us have said plainly "This will come home to us" and we all know it has been a fact of life in black communities since the establishment of our country, but maybe I'm naive, but I think it has certainly gotten worse.

It's worse than when I was growing up in New Orleans and of course, there are no black people there and we didn't know black people, work with them or live next door to them.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. I always tell the suburbanite diehards--by which I mean more "survivalist" than "conservative"
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jul 2015

--that whatever happens abroad or in Black communities is just practice for "back home": I have them guess Ferguson's crime rate

makes 'em think, at least for a while

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. why d'ya think Negroponte was put in charge of Iraq?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:47 PM
Jul 2015

Brazil, the US, Guatemala, even France all had military doctrines that saw the citizenry as the military's first concern and the first source of real trouble

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