this man who has worked so hard for Latinos and who ACTUALLY knows his own community? Or were you agreeing with the OP?

I agree completely with what he said.

I other words:

an open letter to Gutierrez.

It's cool if you don't agree, we Latinos don't agree about everything.

#berniesolatino

all over Social Media, including the author of the article, Cesar, who has worked for the Latino community for years?

Wow!

I'm making fun of the bartender.

activist. What bar tender are you referring to?

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You know exactly what those hashtags are and they are not mocking POC or Latinos.

Sorry for the incivility.

too busy gnawing, and all that.

Of course, until the next, juicier bone comes along.

Yes, I'm talking to YOU, Roderick, and 'Burn it Down' Imani What's-her-name.

some more, if you are Latino, go ahead, the more the better. Latinos are very active on Social Media for Bernie, have been from the beginning. They are fantastic supporters, he is lucky to have them and to have so many.

That have been translated in Spanish going around on Social Media.
Thank you for your support Sabrina1.

keeping up with them, there are new ones every day, and they are so excited about Bernie.

I'll try to get some time and put it in the Bernie forum. Eg, there are Latino Women for Bernie, Black Women For Bernie, Hispanics for Bernie, POC for Bernie. If you just read DU you wouldn't have a clue what is really happening re his campaign. It is very exciting, so many great people on board, across the spectrum and growing every day.

every day. Very exciting, the truth is the best weapon against deception and lies, and Bernie has a powerful weapon which even some people who are not necessarily supporters, right now, admit that about him, 'he is so honest it is refreshing' I hear all the time.

Done with Sanders supporters and how offensive they have become with respect to issues of race. Keep doing your opposition research on one of the Latino communities greatest advocates. See who they support when you are done tearing down one of their greatest allies. Unfortunately, Sanders and the rest of us will be hurt by the relentless anger and attacks of his supporters.

President Obama, and now calls Sanders a socialist and says Sanders doesn't like immigrants. I prefer allies that fight with truths not bullshit. He was wrong about Obama and wrong about Sanders.

Your opposition toward one of progressive immigration reforms strongest allies is noted. I think it probably bothers you that Gutierrez actually helps Latinos, he doesn't just talk about them for votes. Gutierrez has a record of progressive accomplishments in this area.

It bothers me that Gutierrez actually helps Latinos.


Ni me conoces guey. ¿Asi qué callate con tus pendejadas?

It's no sweat of my back. I'm not going around trashing one of the leading progressives on immigration reform.

Your attacks on Gutierrez are without merit and are in direct opposition to progressive immigration reform. Your attacks on me hold the same weight.

Those were your words. I take that as a personal attack and find your words very offensive.

I am not attacking him. I stand in opposition to those who attack a great progressives and leaders of progressive immigration reform.

it is false. And it is a vile lie, aimed at longtime MINORITIES themselves when they won't go along with the nasty negative campaigning by Hillary supporters. Happened in the last election also, I was an Obama supporter and was shocked that such vile tactics would be used by any Democrat.

As some AAs are saying re Hillary 'we remember the last campaign and we won't forget it this time'. The notion that a few people here on DU speak for all AAs is an insult to minorities.

Bernie supporters didn't start this race baiting.

I eg, am amazed that all of a sudden there are some people here who SUDDENLY discovered BLM. Because I have been following them since the beginning, have come to know many of the members and they are ALL wonderful people who are not busy trying to tear down Bernie Sanders for whatever reason those who claim to support them are now doing.

They are busy making sure that the murder of Michael Brown, which sparked the Ferguson Protests didn't die the way other protests have and are determined to continue what started in Ferguson this time, an no way, allow it to just 'go away' as it always has in the past.

I remember how little interest there was here on DU when some great posters were trying to keep interest in Ferguson going.

I remember one of the best of those posters leaving because he was disgusted by the LACK of interest in his amazing posts about Ferguson, because he knew and we knew that the ONLY way to stop the killings was to KEEP the public's interest alive. Alas, here on DU that didn't happen.

And I don't recall those who are now suddenly AWARE of a movement that has been ongoing for a long time, but here got very little attention being in any of those OPs.

I didn't even bother to post OPs after he left. Did ask him not to leave, but don't blame him and know he is, like me and so many others, continuing to do what failed here where people really are sincerely interested in making sure this movement GROWs as it has been, and doesn't stop until the murders and the economic injustices and the inequalities and the Criminal Justice system starts WORKING for AAs.

As a long time participant in this issue, long before it got any attention, for year, Michael Brown was simply the final straw, reading the records year after year of Murder By Cop of AAs, disbelieving that it was not a major issue, I am sickened by the use of this issue by a few here, who had no clue the movement even existed until they saw what they thought was a political opportunity, it isn't and it won't be because this is REAL, it is NOT a game to play during an election cycle. Shame on this forum for allowing it because it isn't happening anywhere else I go in RL or on Social media thankfully.

Now alert on this post if you like, but I will continue to post the facts, everywhere I go regardless of how inconvenient they may be or how they interrupt the politicizing once again, we see it every election cycle, of this most tragic and desperately important issue.

We've got the socialist; uh I can't remember his name. Bernie Sanders. I don't know if he likes immigrants, because he doesn't seem to talk about immigrants.

If you decide to ever check out his excellent progressive record, I will make it easy.

http://gutierrez.house.gov/press-release/house-democrats-call-end-family-detention-program
http://gutierrez.house.gov/immigration-action-national-tour
http://gutierrez.house.gov/docs
http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Luis_Gutierrez.htm
https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/26841/luis-gutierrez/?p=2#.Va_ktdLbKUk

speak for HIM, a long time Latino Activist, nor does he speak for all Latinos?

This is a PERFECT example, thanks for providing it, of what I said in my post. Where EVEN MINORITIES THEMSELVES, including people like VARGAS, longtime activist, is attacked for daring to not go along with the political use of their issues.

Sickened by it all.

We had a poster here doing opposition research on Gutierrez. I'm not kidding. Truly sick.

You are all free to do as you wish. Vargus is free to do as he wishes. I am also allowed to comment.

"is attacked for daring to not go along with the political use of their issues." Truly a sick comment when being used in reference to Gutierrez. Truly offensive. You clearly know nothing about him if you can back that up as you are. This is just offensive. Now yell back.

In case you have any interest at all in commenting on opposition research being done to a great progressive.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026821069

some unknown internet poster, in order to try to DISCREDIT him because he, a minority longtime ACTIVIST for Latino Rights, DARED to call out a political surrogate for his attempt to undermine another Democratic Candidate, and FAILED. One, who Vargas pointed out truthfully, stood up for HIS minority rights for his entire career.

Sick to death of political ploys, of the use of PEOPLE and of grave and serious issues, for political purposes.

It won't work, it isn't working, see Vargas who will not allow these political operatives to speak for HIM as a minority and we are seeing more and more of it every single day, the pushback, the refusal to be USED for the selfish, purposes of politicians and their surrogates.

Vargas is not a politician, he has long fought for rights for Latinos, he wasn't doing it JUST during Election cycles, and you show why people are turned off politics.

Sorry to tell you this, but minorities are NOT monolithic groups of people all of whom think and act the same way. Vargas has every right to call out Gutierrez for his foolish and transparent attempt to get in a talking point for political purposes. Just as much right as Gutierrez has to do what he does, not very well.

"Sorry to tell you this, but minorities are NOT monolithic groups of people all of whom think and act the same way."

Just keep going.

Was made for the expressed purpose to turn off Latinos to Bernie Sanders. It had nothing to do with immigration.

If he was sincere in his efforts to get Bernie to talk about immigration matters, he would have couched his statement differently.

Also, Gutierrez' constant bashing of President Obama as Deporter in Chief is now going to back fire as Latinos will be asking themselves wether Hillary would be another deported in chief.

This election will come down to who Latinos feel is the most honest and trustful candidate.

show voters who is or is not an advocate for undocumented residents. Vargas lays it our for Guierrez in that article and others where his readers can see for themselves.

That is the beauty of being able to support a candidate who doesn't need to pay PR people to 'fix' anything or manipulate anything in his record. The record speaks for itself, and I thank Vargas for laying it all out and exposing the now not very credible Gutierrez who comes off looking like someone whose main interest in his own career which he apparently believes can be enhanced by attacking the one person in this campaign who excels on this issue.