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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:05 PM Jul 2015

Bernie addresses Sandra Bland's arrest:

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/07/22/sanders-calls-violent-arrest-sandra-bland-totally-outrageous-police-behavior

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"This video of the arrest of Sandra Bland shows totally outrageous police behavior," Sanders stated on Wednesday. "No one should be yanked from her car, thrown to the ground, assaulted and arrested for a minor traffic stop. The result is that three days later she is dead in her jail cell. This video highlights once again why we need real police reform. People should not die for a minor traffic infraction. This type of police abuse has become an all-too-common occurrence for people of color and it must stop."
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Bernie addresses Sandra Bland's arrest: (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2015 OP
k&r bigtree Jul 2015 #1
Great addition and post. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #3
Thanks for posting additional links. Not surprised Bernie is taking the lead on addressing this travesty. Just glad we have a leader unafraid to step up. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #54
^^^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #82
I posted this earlier. It has not been removed and I don't think it's been tampered with marym625 Jul 2015 #84
We all need to understand that this isn't..... NCTraveler Jul 2015 #2
No proof that I can offer at all, but I strongly suspect that cameras have probably Amimnoch Jul 2015 #23
Agree with every word. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #24
He removed her from the sight of the camera knowing what he was going to do to her. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #31
We also need RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #71
Civilian Review boards are absolutely essential. whathehell Jul 2015 #81
And since it is highly likely that he will not be charged with murder (unless there was a camera jwirr Jul 2015 #74
Yes, it's been going on for decades. geardaddy Jul 2015 #59
What took so long? moobu2 Jul 2015 #4
The netroots protest and #bernieSoBlack made an impact Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #6
Except he's spoken about policing issues since he began to run Fearless Jul 2015 #15
That's true, actually he has for decades. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #35
We always have to keep the message fresh Fearless Jul 2015 #38
video was released yesterday ibegurpard Jul 2015 #7
Too many number one priorities take time to process seveneyes Jul 2015 #12
^This^ Win. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #13
stupid comment JI7 Jul 2015 #14
He was referring to the video which was released yesterday. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #17
All the candidates are making statements after viewing the dash-cam tape whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #18
The dashcam video was just released. frylock Jul 2015 #21
The video is altered... MMTampa Jul 2015 #67
I agree frylock Jul 2015 #68
And the first "interview" with HRC and her comments... SoapBox Jul 2015 #22
Bernie responded BEFORE O'Malley AND Before Hill. Divernan Jul 2015 #27
Bernie was first, naturally. Others follow his lead, as usual. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #56
Bernie was among the very first of the politicians to make a statement about Ferguson. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #34
Thank you JD for pointing this out. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #58
This, this, this. I've said it myself... ms liberty Jul 2015 #83
He was timely and, more importantly, sincere. senz Jul 2015 #49
Finally? What would have been "much earlier"? Uninformed post. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #88
I think Bernie has potential to step up big time on these issues... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #5
I agree. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #20
May I second (or third or whatever) that sentiment? Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #25
Agreed but I would just add this... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #33
Thank you for adding that. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #41
Please post this as a separate thread, and let me know by DU mail that you are doing it. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #44
I'll pass on that for now. Maybe in a couple days, or maybe someone else will. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #69
I second that, please make this a separate thread. historylovr Jul 2015 #62
Some weeks ago, on KPFK, there was a discussion about Ferguson. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #37
That's interesting Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #70
I agree with you. bravenak Jul 2015 #57
Right. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #75
Boy do I agree with this. First off, as a person who has done and witnessed and followed what I call Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #73
+a billion Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #76
Good. KNR! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #8
No way do I believe she committed suicide. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #9
Of course she didn't. It's preposterous. snagglepuss Jul 2015 #11
Beyond preposterous...this shit cannot stand...it's time to take action! Count on Venues to keep shining the light of police brutality and...yes...MURDER! #blacklivesmatter InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #60
Hell yes.... daleanime Jul 2015 #16
They killed her. No doubt. I wonder how many were directly involved in the cover up. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #32
He lost his temper and took her away from the cameras to beat her up. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #39
Oh, yeah. It's all for one and one for all. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #45
She was murdered by police. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #40
It is being typed on tens of thousands of keyboards as we speak. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #46
Thank you, Bernie. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #10
Any police unions come out in support of this? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #19
I found these articles and I thought I should share it. MrWendel Jul 2015 #26
Welcome to the site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #28
Good to hear MrWendel Jul 2015 #30
Things generally get posted Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #36
Good start. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #29
LOL!! n/t Dawgs Jul 2015 #92
I watched this dashcam video silenttigersong Jul 2015 #42
This is absolutely what I would expect of Bernie. Totally consistent with his politics. senz Jul 2015 #43
thanks for that heads up...love Jared Bernstein! n/t ms liberty Jul 2015 #85
Soooo........ MrWendel Jul 2015 #47
He doesn't say what he doesn't think and feel. That's the way he is. senz Jul 2015 #51
No. progressoid Jul 2015 #55
Okay... MrWendel Jul 2015 #80
Bernie has been on these issues for a very long time... ms liberty Jul 2015 #86
... progressoid Jul 2015 #89
And I believe that he means what he says. n/t Skwmom Jul 2015 #48
BUT as a privileged white woman with black friends, I gotta say that he's gotta say what he'll DO ancianita Jul 2015 #50
Bernie was speaking out against police mistreatment of blacks NEARLY A YEAR AGO. senz Jul 2015 #53
We're at the point in this country where we've learned that the right positions of campaigners ancianita Jul 2015 #66
This is what I heard him say on May 28, 2015 historylovr Jul 2015 #61
Thanks! Yes, totally agree on putting pressure on Loretta Lynch, and Obama's seems immune to ancianita Jul 2015 #63
You're welcome! historylovr Jul 2015 #65
I'm still waiting for the CURRENT president to announce what he'd do n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #77
A quick question about the chart that is a bit off topic davidpdx Jul 2015 #87
Cumulative seems to be the end result, though "dot growth" seems placed as close as can be to sites ancianita Jul 2015 #91
Oregon davidpdx Jul 2015 #93
Good statement, Bernie! MineralMan Jul 2015 #52
Kick. Agschmid Jul 2015 #64
Every time I see that video I get sick to my stomach. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #72
Short, sweet, to the point: pure classic Bernie Sanders. No evolving opinions here, folks. marble falls Jul 2015 #78
This is more than about cameras, it's about vetting the police candidates for racist ideology. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #79
This is exactly whant needs to be done. These racists fuckheads shouldn't snagglepuss Jul 2015 #90

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
1. k&r
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jul 2015
Trineka Ya Dig? ?@thediva1975 22m22 minutes ago
Just to be clear #SandraBland's mama said: "Once I put this baby in the ground, I'm ready ... this means war."
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/At-memorial-for-Sandra-Bland-mother-said-6398340.php

Dante Boykin ?@DanteB4u
*BREAKING* - Dashcam Video of #SandraBland traffic stop #SayHerName #BlackLivesMatter @deray @shaunking @BeautyBind



Kerry Eleveld ?@kerryeleveld 28m28 minutes ago
14: The number of times Sandra Bland asked why she was being arrested without an answer. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/22/1404488/-14-The-number-of-times-Sandra-Bland-asked-why-she-was-being-arrested-without-an-answer … via @shaunking

deray mckesson ?@deray
I watched the dashcam video and realized that I may have said and done exactly what she did, many of us would have.We are #SandraBland.

Keegan Stephan ?@KeeganNYC
Seems unlikely that a woman who told a cop she'd take him to court for false arrest committed suicide in jail three days later. #SandraBland

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
54. Thanks for posting additional links. Not surprised Bernie is taking the lead on addressing this travesty. Just glad we have a leader unafraid to step up.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jul 2015

marym625

(17,997 posts)
84. I posted this earlier. It has not been removed and I don't think it's been tampered with
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jul 2015

And it doesn't seem to have any loop. I could be wrong but it looks untouched other than the removal of the several minutes while the officer is in his vehicle.

That alone speaks volumes to me. What was discussed? What did they Google and find during those several minutes?

I also want to know why he first approaches from the passenger side.

This stinks from the moment it starts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026998849

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. We all need to understand that this isn't.....
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

We all need to understand that this hasn't "become an all-too-common occurrence for people of color." Cameras are simply catching these actions that have been going on for the last century. It hasn't become an all-too-common occurrence. The sick fucks just can't seem to get away from camera's these days. AA's aren't under a new attack. It is a continuation of police history that isn't even close to new.

Still, very positive words from Sanders.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
23. No proof that I can offer at all, but I strongly suspect that cameras have probably
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:29 PM
Jul 2015

made it less common place, and it doesn't take a great stretch of logic to think that situations like this have probably been MUCH worse.

Really, of the 2 people in the video.. only one of them really knew they were being video recorded, and it was STILL the jackass breaking the laws he is supposed to be sworn to uphold.

This man should be charged with murder. Even if it was a suicide it was HIS highly inappropriate actions and abuse of power that led to her death.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. He removed her from the sight of the camera knowing what he was going to do to her.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

He may claim he did it for some other reason -- like to get her out of the line of traffic, but the only reason he did that was to get her out of the eye of the camera so that he could "ruffle her up," in other words beat her up.

He talks about why he did that at the end of the video. It's as if that monologue or discussion at the end of the video was supposed to be a statement as to why he arrested her, etc. It was a total lie, and he was an idiot to make that statement and intentionally to take someone he had taken out of her car out of the sight of the camera and then beat her up.

The police officer is in the wrong, was in the wrong, and he knew it. That's why he took her away from the sight of the camera. That in and of itself needs to be made illegal.

And this proves how much we need the cameras on all police actions.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
71. We also need
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jul 2015

CIVILIAN review boards, to examine this sort of thing.
They have proven that they can manipulate the cameras. Cameras also break. Civilian review boards are a bit better.

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
81. Civilian Review boards are absolutely essential.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jul 2015

Body cams, yes, but as you said, cameras break. We need civilian review boards

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
74. And since it is highly likely that he will not be charged with murder (unless there was a camera
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

in the cell area - which there is supposed to be) then I hope that her dear mother sues the hell out of them.

Yes, I know that taxpayers pay the cost but they are also the ones who hire this filth.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
59. Yes, it's been going on for decades.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jul 2015

This is not new police behavior. It's just getting exposed to a broader section of the country now.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
6. The netroots protest and #bernieSoBlack made an impact
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Apparently.

edit: spelling

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
35. That's true, actually he has for decades.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015

But this is just a new focus and some adjustments to update for modern times.





Fearless

(18,421 posts)
38. We always have to keep the message fresh
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

Even as the core message remains as concrete as it was fifty years ago.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
12. Too many number one priorities take time to process
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jul 2015

Even with an infinite amount of resources there is always an infinite amount of time plus one.

You can not even break even, even if you skip lunch.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
14. stupid comment
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jul 2015

This is a response to the video which just came out yesterday.

Why be an ass about it. The others have come out with comment at the same time also.

MMTampa

(82 posts)
67. The video is altered...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jul 2015

The video has been edited. The white car suddenly appears and then disappears. People walk by and then reappear back where they started. It appears to be looped in several places. Watch it carefully...not even a good editing job. I'm thinking it's the early evidence of more video tampering. I wouldn't trust that the jailhouse video is intact.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
22. And the first "interview" with HRC and her comments...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jul 2015

came out on MONDAY.

I assume that the "should have gotten on it much earlier" also applies.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
27. Bernie responded BEFORE O'Malley AND Before Hill.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

"This video of the arrest of Sandra Bland shows totally outrageous police behavior," Sanders said in a statement released late on Tuesday night.

O'Malley, in a statement issued on Wednesday, called for a full investigation into Bland's death.

My heart breaks at seeing another young African American life lost too soon," Clinton said in a statement on Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/sandra-bland-hillary-clinton-democrats-2016/index.html

So please share why you only criticized Sanders when he was the FIRST of the 3 major Dem. candidates to respond.

I suggest that the important thing is that all three responded. Don't spin this tragedy for your own political purposes.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
34. Bernie was among the very first of the politicians to make a statement about Ferguson.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

And he wasn't even running then.

People just didn't have the name awareness to realize that he has been working on this issue all along and has been aware of it for his entire political career.

It is very understandable that Black people don't realize where he stands on race issues. The press has ignored his many, many actions in this area. He wasn't a star. He sure is now and this will be one of his primary issues I'm sure. It always has been.

ms liberty

(8,594 posts)
83. This, this, this. I've said it myself...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jul 2015

If you've been following Bernie as I have - a time that spans more than a decade, you know Bernie's been vocal on these issues, and has worked on them in the House and Senate for all these years. He just wasn't high profile until he started running for President.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
5. I think Bernie has potential to step up big time on these issues...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

Police reform, prison reform. As a independent socialist he can help carry this conversation further than Republicans and Democrats alone. He could be a really strong voice in this new civil rights movement, if he can step up and find his voice.

I think what happened at netroots + #bernieSoBlack, really shook him up and he started being able to see things from this other angle.

The protests we a big success in my book because the conversation is moving and Bernie and others will start taking up this message.

The people that did that protest did what they had to. I highly suggest for all Sanders supporters to respect and assist the grass roots civil rights movements.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
25. May I second (or third or whatever) that sentiment?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jul 2015

I'm glad to hear him come out for police reform. Because Sanders comes out with authenticity. He comes out swinging.

One of the reasons I am so glad that Mrs. Clinton has fully embraced LGBT rights is that "new converts" can be very outspoken about their newfound beliefs. I am thrilled that Mr. Sanders now believes in explicitly calling for reforms that matter especially to People of Colour.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
33. Agreed but I would just add this...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jul 2015

He is finding a new way to talk about it, but on the actual issues he has been there all along.

Bernie spoke against abusive policing and mass incarceration back when liberals and Democrats were falling all over each other see who could throw the most black people in jail. That includes the Bill and Hillary Clinton, Martin O'Malley, and most of the others.

As can be seen in this speech from 1991:



This is the voice he is finding again.




JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. Please post this as a separate thread, and let me know by DU mail that you are doing it.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jul 2015

This is a speech that deserves to be posted as its own thread. It is of major importance. The only reason that people don't know Bernie's history on civil rights is that the press ignored him.

It's time to give his civil rights record its due not just on DU but in the press.

It is a matter of civic importance that Blacks and other People of Color know who their real friends are.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
69. I'll pass on that for now. Maybe in a couple days, or maybe someone else will.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
Jul 2015

Actually I've seen it here before.

Bernie does have a good record on this issue.

I also want to make sure to be sensitive and not accidentally seem condescending or patronizing toward anyone, like saying hey listen up black people I'm here to school you on Bernie Sanders.

Some of my friends are falling into that and they don't realize how annoying that is.



historylovr

(1,557 posts)
62. I second that, please make this a separate thread.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jul 2015

So many assume who this man is that they haven't actually checked him out.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. Some weeks ago, on KPFK, there was a discussion about Ferguson.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jul 2015

And the reporter stated rather amazed at the fact himself, that Bernie was among the first to protest in writing against the Ferguson killing.

That was well before he announced his candidacy. The only reason that Bernie doesn't have a strong reputation in the Black community as an activist for African-American civil rights is that he was not a big name political star until recently and therefore his actions and protests did not make the news.

That is changing. And when people get the facts about Bernie's stands on civil rights, they will be amazed at the fact that this man, from a mostly white state, took the political risk of standing tall for the rights of African-Americans.

Blacks don't expect to find what they will find when they start looking at Bernie's record. A lot of minds are going to change about him.

This illustrates just how media focuses our attention and how skewed our opinions are by the control of the media on what stories are reported and what stories are not reported. Skews our view of reality.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
70. That's interesting
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jul 2015

I think the whole #bernieSoBlack incident could end up being a blessing in disguise. If Bernie takes up the issues correctly this cold be the start of a new relationship with the civil rights movement and with black voters.

Another important thing will be for Bernie's enthusiastic supporters to be mindful of our tone and not be condescending. Some of my friends have gotten a little preachy toward black people in the past couple days. I know they're not doing it on purpose though. They mean well.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
57. I agree with you.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

They are grass roots so is he, he should join them and it will put everyone on notice.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
75. Right.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jul 2015

In my opinion the Sanders campaign should be a vehicle for the people's movements to take power.

He keeps saying it's not about him, it's about the people, the political revolution. OK so here's a chance to make that happen.

In my opinion we do need a revolutionary change of sorts to force the system to stop killing black people. And for other emergencies we face, like the environmental emergency too, where Bernie already has connections. Now is a chance to build connections with modern civil rights activists.



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
73. Boy do I agree with this. First off, as a person who has done and witnessed and followed what I call
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jul 2015

Emergency Politics, disruptions, road blocking, interrupting public events, that sort of thing I have to say what happened at Netroots was really a great outcome in the universe of outcomes from disruptive activism. Both O'Malley and Sanders handled it far, far better than I have seen it handled by others. And it's very valid to go to politicians who are prone to support you and bark at them a bit in an emergency because they are on your side. You do not spare them because they are on your side, you alert them to the emergency first. Republicans will be no help, they are in fact the opponent. You aggressively engage your friends, you flat out protest Republicans, institutions such as police unions, courthouses.

Every single criticism I have see of Black Lives Matter's choice of actions are familiar to me because the same ones were said about ACT UP, every last bloody one of them Emergency politics is supposed to piss people off. 'Why do they block the roads' 'this could cost us the next election' 'why are they heckling their allies, the Democrats are on their side'.
It's an emergency, people. The rules do not apply. Silence = Death.




ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
9. No way do I believe she committed suicide.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jul 2015

No fucking way. She never should have been in that jail in the first place.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
60. Beyond preposterous...this shit cannot stand...it's time to take action! Count on Venues to keep shining the light of police brutality and...yes...MURDER! #blacklivesmatter
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
32. They killed her. No doubt. I wonder how many were directly involved in the cover up.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

One cop's petty ego caused this whole thing. Horrible.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. He lost his temper and took her away from the cameras to beat her up.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

He seems to have complete faith that his fellow officers will back him up. There is a second video of some of the moments that were not on this official video. I wonder when and if ever we will see that second video. Remember she thanks someone for videoing the events.

Police departments are like fraternities, I think. All for one and one for all and everybody else be damned.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
40. She was murdered by police.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

I know that doesn't come as a surprise to anyone here, but those words need to be typed on tens of thousands of keyboards and sent all over the internet. This was another execution by the police.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. Welcome to the site.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jul 2015

I believe those have been shared before onsite, we've been talking about the NN15 protests since it happened.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
36. Things generally get posted
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015

under specific folders related to the content. Things that have just happened in the last 12 hours, for instance, go under 'Latest Breaking News', things about Republican primaries or a variety of generic things go under 'General Discussion', things about Democratic Primaries under 'General Discussion : Primaries', and so on. I think most folks have just been posting NN15 protest and Sandra Bland related things in General Discussion, although they'd probably fit well in several categories, and Sandra Bland related ones could go under 'Justice & Public Safety' forums as well. Each of the forums or groups will have a statement of purpose at the top to let you know what the group is for.

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
42. I watched this dashcam video
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jul 2015

I was aghast at the officers behavior.It seemed to me his violance was deesculating while he was deciding what to charge Sandra with,justifying his actions,making sure his statement was recorded (claiming she assaulted him).He obviously incited her and put her in fear .


SANDRA BLAND.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
43. This is absolutely what I would expect of Bernie. Totally consistent with his politics.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jul 2015

Senator Sanders cares about people, particularly those who are being oppressed by the system. He always has.

Also, a heads up --

Jared Bernstein, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, has written an Op-Ed for the NYTimes that is favorable to Bernie’s proposal for a financial transaction tax. So far, the reader comments also seem to favor his proposal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/22/opinion/the-case-for-a-tax-on-financial-transactions.html


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
51. He doesn't say what he doesn't think and feel. That's the way he is.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jul 2015

And yes, that's pretty unusual for a politician.

progressoid

(49,998 posts)
55. No.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

The day before Netroots Nation he tweeted:

Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders Jul 17

1 out of 4 male African-Americans born today will end up behind bars. That is not the America we believe in. #IDPHOF


He's been on this for 50 years.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
80. Okay...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jul 2015

So he has solutions to these problems then, not just saying "Racism Bad", and just regurgitating facts? Cause I want to know why someone gets my vote, and not people telling me that they are entitled to it.

ms liberty

(8,594 posts)
86. Bernie has been on these issues for a very long time...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jul 2015

You'll find video clips, Facebook posts, and numerous news articles with his direct quotes, if you're interested in looking. He's been on the correct side of history for a very long time, he just wasn't high profile before he decided to run for POTUS. I say correct side, because it seems so wrong to say the "right" side, lol!

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
50. BUT as a privileged white woman with black friends, I gotta say that he's gotta say what he'll DO
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015

about this as president. Presidents historically don't fight the thin blue line at state levels, so he's going to have to say something about withdrawing federal funds and resources, etc., or something about automatic Attorney General investigations of civil rights offenses.

In other words, "addressing isn't enough." Campaign outrage doesn't translate to policy and action. I'm aware that saying what he'll actually do might lose some demographic's votes and gain others', so there's that consequence. Still, "showing up is better than doing nothing," I guess.

When Bernie says what he'll do about THIS /\/\/\/\/, he'll be even more in step with the "feeling the Bern" motto:


ancianita

(36,132 posts)
66. We're at the point in this country where we've learned that the right positions of campaigners
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jul 2015

don't necessarily translate into actions that give hope and change. My skepticism is born of exposure across presidential administrations since Eisenhower.

We all know that police brutality has gone on since the 60's and that media frames each report without historical context, only as anomaly, promoting public faith in all manner of policing. We know that ignoring "due force" laws is more the rule than the exception. Unless the civilian is white. The Thin Blue Line productions of TV and film reflect these realities. So far, not much has been done by Washington about 50 states' policing problems.

Bernie has suggested what should be done, I've learned, so that's something, I guess.

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
61. This is what I heard him say on May 28, 2015
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jul 2015

He'd like to implement community policing nationwide, with police as public servants

He would like to end the militarization of police

And he said that most importantly, police must be held accountable

I've seen and heard that he's said that other times since then, but exactly when and where, I couldn't tell you right off hand. Something might come up in a web search though.

And, you know, call me crazy, but maybe we could put more pressure on AG Loretta Lynch and President Obama to do something NOW. Might be a good start.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
63. Thanks! Yes, totally agree on putting pressure on Loretta Lynch, and Obama's seems immune to
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jul 2015

public pressure.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
87. A quick question about the chart that is a bit off topic
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:13 PM
Jul 2015

Are the reported deaths represented by the actual areas they took place or is it cumulative for each state (meaning not representative of the area the death took place)? I'm just curious looking at my own state.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
91. Cumulative seems to be the end result, though "dot growth" seems placed as close as can be to sites
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jul 2015

during growth shots. I think the digital map makers can best explain. I really don't know for sure.

Which is your state?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
72. Every time I see that video I get sick to my stomach.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

No one should be treated like that, enough is enough.

What if that was your daughter?

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
79. This is more than about cameras, it's about vetting the police candidates for racist ideology.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jul 2015

It's about training training training. Everything from how to approach situations in non-aggressive and a tone that is civil.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
90. This is exactly whant needs to be done. These racists fuckheads shouldn't
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:16 AM
Jul 2015

be on the force to begin with and training needs vast improvement. There also needs to ne citizen review committees.

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