2016 Postmortem

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts) Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:24 PM Jul 2015

Some interesting polling numbers in the latest PPP

First of all, Bernie's numbers amongst AAs have taken a hit, but his approvals amongst Hispanics are quite a bit better.

But O'Malley's numbers amongst both are downright toxic, and probably irrecoverable. This is interesting, particularly because many of the Bernie critics on DU claim to be fans of O'Malley:-

Another interesting thing is Ben Carson. His approval ratings are in negative territory, but so are all of the Republicans (and the Democrats). He's closer to breaking even than just about anyone else:-

He doesn't do so well in the matchups against Hillary. Actually, the Republican that does best in a matchup with Clinton is Rand Paul. He is on 45/42, and quite a bit ahead of her with independents:-

He also manages to peel off a little bit of Democratic support against Hillary, suggesting that at least a few Democratic supporters would still prefer a conviction politician to a pragmatist.

Full results here:- http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_72215.pdf

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Some interesting polling numbers in the latest PPP (Original Post) shaayecanaan Jul 2015 OP

Fuck Rand Paul FSogol Jul 2015 #1

No thanks shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #2

Hey don't try to foist him off those of us who aren't married mythology Jul 2015 #13

A word of caution... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #3

They're more or less consistent with past PPP polls shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #6

I wonder if they state party affiliation when asking the approve\disapprove question. LonePirate Jul 2015 #4

Lincoln? No, I like Audi. FSogol Jul 2015 #7

Yes because Rand Paul is the epitome of conviction *sarcasm* RandySF Jul 2015 #5

Well, he has some shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #8

Really? RandySF Jul 2015 #9

I'm honestly not aware of his dad being on late night television shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #11

Thanks, but we'll just chuckle at the quasi-libertarian support that shows up FSogol Jul 2015 #14

Trumpy has more convictions than Rand. FSogol Jul 2015 #10

Hitler probably had more convictions than both shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #12

FSogol

(45,529 posts)

1. Fuck Rand Paul

Reply to shaayecanaan (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:28 PM

Jul 2015

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

2. No thanks

Reply to FSogol (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:29 PM

Jul 2015

I'm happily married.

mythology

(9,527 posts)

13. Hey don't try to foist him off those of us who aren't married

Reply to shaayecanaan (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:53 PM

Jul 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)

3. A word of caution...

Reply to shaayecanaan (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:30 PM

Jul 2015

Those subsamples are small and have huge margins of error...

I believe in one subsample Jim Webb is polling at 15% among Latinos.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

6. They're more or less consistent with past PPP polls

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:33 PM

Jul 2015

eg, O'Malley has had some bad polling with AAs for quite a while:-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=18155

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)

4. I wonder if they state party affiliation when asking the approve\disapprove question.

Reply to shaayecanaan (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:32 PM

Jul 2015

I have a very difficult time believing 32% of the respondents even know who Lincoln Chafee is, let alone know enough about him apart from his party to know if they like\dislike him.

FSogol

(45,529 posts)

7. Lincoln? No, I like Audi.

Reply to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:33 PM

Jul 2015

RandySF

(59,307 posts)

5. Yes because Rand Paul is the epitome of conviction *sarcasm*

Reply to shaayecanaan (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:32 PM

Jul 2015

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

8. Well, he has some

Reply to RandySF (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:33 PM

Jul 2015

granted, you may not agree with those convictions, but he does have them.

There's nothing wrong, necessarily, with being a pragmatist. Its made Clinton the formidable machine politician that she is today.

RandySF

(59,307 posts)

9. Really?

Reply to shaayecanaan (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:38 PM

Jul 2015

This is a guy who create a Board to certify him as an ophthalmologist. And his dad is now spending his retirement selling books on late night television. If you want to find someone to bash Hillary with, please find someone with more credibility.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

11. I'm honestly not aware of his dad being on late night television

Reply to RandySF (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:48 PM

Jul 2015

and I'm not sure it enters into anyone's considerations.

I didn't organise the poll, or the responses it garnered. Nevertheless it appears as though Paul would be competitive with Clinton in a matchup, and I am speculating as to the reasons why.

If you have objections to the poll results themselves, may I suggest walking outside and having a good primal scream, perhaps tearing your shirt asunder with your hands in the process. The visual effect of this act is even more impressive if you are kneeling in the glow of a streetlight during a rainstorm.