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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:13 PM Jul 2015

A New Poll Has Another Batch Of Bad News For Hillary Clinton

She has received her worst favorability rating ever. She has lost ground on Republicans' three strongest candidates. And she is perceived to be about as honest and trustworthy as Donald Trump.

Those are some of the troubling numbers for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new poll released Thursday by Quinnipiac University.

The poll still shows her with a commanding lead in the Democratic race, as she leads with 55% of the Democratic vote nationwide.

US Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), who is running as a Democrat, grabs 17% of the vote. Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet said whether he will run, gets 13% support from Democratic primary voters.

From there, though, the numbers show some complications for the Democratic front-runner. For one, Biden is running about as well against top Republicans in hypothetical general-election matchups. She has lost significant ground against those opponents since Quinnipiac's poll from May.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-poll-trump-2015-7#ixzz3hP5rbr34

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A New Poll Has Another Batch Of Bad News For Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
Only 55% in the poll? Well, she's toast, then. MineralMan Jul 2015 #1
Other polls show that if Biden announces he's running BillZBubb Jul 2015 #12
And if he doesn't run, she'll pick up some of his. MineralMan Jul 2015 #13
That will make some voters happy then... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #2
So she leads everyone but it means DOOM? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #3
Where did you get that she leads everyone? She is trailing Bush in this poll. Quixote1818 Aug 2015 #25
Quinnipac again Godhumor Jul 2015 #4
I agree, a third-rate school and part/parcel of the education bubble ericson00 Jul 2015 #7
just because you don't like the poll 6chars Aug 2015 #26
their polls are outliers. I'm not insulting the school but I am insulting the rationale ericson00 Aug 2015 #30
Yeah, she's up 55-17 against Bernie. That's only a 38 point lead. Disaster! DanTex Jul 2015 #5
Hillary 55%, Bernie 17% = Bad News For Hillary? Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #6
I will take that kind of news and enjoy the rest of the day. Laser102 Jul 2015 #9
Did go to the link? Quixote1818 Aug 2015 #24
Hillary has an extremely commanding lead. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #8
The sooner she quits the race the better. earthside Jul 2015 #10
apparently you haven't seen her new ad 6chars Aug 2015 #27
The 'grandma' ad? earthside Aug 2015 #33
Sounds like Hillary had a great mother 6chars Aug 2015 #34
So did I. earthside Aug 2015 #35
55%. What that says to me is 45% favor ANYBODY else. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #11
I'm not a Hillary supporter in the primaries but BillZBubb Jul 2015 #15
And 83% favor anybody other than Bernie. Sorry, I mean ANYBODY... DanTex Jul 2015 #16
I didn't see your post before replying. Sorry! lunamagica Aug 2015 #31
So that means that 83% favor ANYBODY else but Sanders? lunamagica Aug 2015 #29
It's not bad news for the primary, but for the general ram2008 Jul 2015 #14
The Republicans have slammed Hillary with everything they could find since she was SoS Sheepshank Jul 2015 #17
I agree. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #18
But i still can't see people voting for another Bush - especially after W Hawaii Hiker Jul 2015 #19
Bush is hurting Clinton just by being in the race ram2008 Jul 2015 #21
Good point, Kasich could be tough Hawaii Hiker Jul 2015 #22
it will be tough to generate turnout against Kasich 6chars Aug 2015 #28
Bernie Sanders v. John Kasich on Corporate Welfare (3/30/1995) - Big fun Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #37
That'll shift some when the primaries are over... Adrahil Jul 2015 #20
K & R L0oniX Jul 2015 #23
Oh my! She's only 38 points ahead of 2nd place Sanders!! Lil Missy Aug 2015 #32
That's the Quinnipiac poll from last Thursday BainsBane Aug 2015 #36

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. Only 55% in the poll? Well, she's toast, then.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jul 2015

I mean, if you combine Sanders and Biden, they have 30%, after all. A clear winning margin, it seems.

A "commanding lead" means a sure loss. I get it.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
12. Other polls show that if Biden announces he's running
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:52 PM
Jul 2015

he'll immediately pull a significant number of Hillary voters. She'd still have a solid lead over both Biden and Sanders, but far from the overwhelming position she holds now.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. And if he doesn't run, she'll pick up some of his.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jul 2015

We can guess all sorts of things, but Biden hasn't indicated that he'll run. If he does, he'll also grab some of the Sanders voters.


Until he declares his candidacy, it's all guesswork. Right now, Clinton is holding in the mid 50s, percentage-wise. That doesn't seem to be changing. Something for Sanders to be concerned about, I'd think. Let me know when Biden decides.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. That will make some voters happy then...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jul 2015

That will make some voters happy then because she will be a weak general election candidate and the likelihood of a GOP clown who will offer more Putin like leadership will be elected.

Or in the alternative Joe Biden will save us.

lol

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. So she leads everyone but it means DOOM?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:26 PM
Jul 2015

Aren't even Bernie supporters a bit embarrassed by her media coverage at this point?

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
25. Where did you get that she leads everyone? She is trailing Bush in this poll.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:33 AM
Aug 2015

Here's a quick breakdown:
Clinton trails former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida (R) 42-41. She led Bush by 10 points in May. Biden, on the other hand, leads Bush by 1 point.
Clinton leads Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin (R) 44-43. She led Walker by 8 points in May. Biden is tied with Walker.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-poll-trump-2015-7#ixzz3hjs5QwPz

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
7. I agree, a third-rate school and part/parcel of the education bubble
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jul 2015

gee I wonder why they want the publicity so bad? That school charges 60k/year, issued hundreds of millions and debt, and barely moves up on the USNWR rankings.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
26. just because you don't like the poll
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:01 AM
Aug 2015

don't have to insult a whole university for not being in the top tier and making fun of their rankings.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
30. their polls are outliers. I'm not insulting the school but I am insulting the rationale
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:44 AM
Aug 2015

for releasing skewed polls, which is to get QU more publicity.

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
24. Did go to the link?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:31 AM
Aug 2015

Snip>

Here's a quick breakdown:
Clinton trails former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida (R) 42-41. She led Bush by 10 points in May. Biden, on the other hand, leads Bush by 1 point.
Clinton leads Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin (R) 44-43. She led Walker by 8 points in May. Biden is tied with Walker.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-poll-trump-2015-7#ixzz3hjs5QwPz

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Hillary has an extremely commanding lead.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

Sanders appears to be stalled. And the talking point is doom for Clinton.

Just as we all knew Sanders would swing upwards, we knew Clintons favorable couldn't stay where they were throughout a campaign. All of this still looks amazingly well for Clinton. I can't wait until O'Malley gets to stand next to Sanders and Clinton in the debates. Sanders and Clinton are both starting to show minor vulnerabilities and voids O'Malley can fill. Debates now please.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
10. The sooner she quits the race the better.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:46 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton is a train wreck for the Democratic Party.

Too old fashioned, too corporate, too Wall Street, too slick, too pandering, too evasive ... mark my words the Democrats will yet rue the day they fell for this "it's her turn" mentality.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
33. The 'grandma' ad?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:23 AM
Aug 2015

Yeah ... starts with photos from the 1930s ... and ends with her proclamation AGAIN that she is a grandma ... with her saucer eyes?

Or the other really boring one of her talking into the camera about her mother.

Her mother!
Oh, the political courage!

Too glib, too smooth, too slick, over produced and exactly what one would expect from a Wall Street approved candidate.
And talk about pandering ... Hillary likes kids because she had a mother.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
35. So did I.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:55 AM
Aug 2015

My grandmothers, that is.
I'm not nearly as old as Hillary.

Lots of Depression era folks had difficult times.

That doesn't qualify them to be president.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
11. 55%. What that says to me is 45% favor ANYBODY else.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jul 2015

So I see it as 55/45, and trending downward for Hillary.

Take heart, Hillary Clinton supporters... it's gonna be a long downhill ride.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
15. I'm not a Hillary supporter in the primaries but
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

she is in excellent shape. Remember, to win the party nomination, you do not need 50+% of the votes. You need delegates. She'll get a lot of delegates.

Right now the only two things that could possibly stop her winning the nomination are a huge gaffe on her part or Biden entering the race and running strongly.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
14. It's not bad news for the primary, but for the general
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jul 2015

I don't know why people keep thinking the bad news is referring to her primary numbers. It's referring to her General election numbers and her favorability/trust ratings. With 99% name ID and 40/50 fav-unfav, that's a general election disaster in the making. It'll be Bush/Kerry all over again.

Pray Trump wins the Repub nomination.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
17. The Republicans have slammed Hillary with everything they could find since she was SoS
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jul 2015

they knew she would be running for POTUS, and have ramped up the critisms, made every effort to damage her credibility and likability and integrity. Now some of it is working...even here on DU, those same type of talking points are run amok. BUT, they have been at it for years and the best they can do in damage her enough that she only has a 55% favorability. NONE of the Republicans as of yet (besides Trump) have received the full wrath of the bite back from the Hillary campaign, the media or other public and vocal Democrats.

The interesting shit is still about to happen.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
18. I agree.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jul 2015

But, don't forget, she has been under constant attack from the right wing for over a year now. They've managed to stretch the Benghazi nonsense out and finally found a way to stick her on her use of emails. There has been no sustained response from her supporters to refute the nonsense. She's taken a severe hit.

That said, she has a lot of time and a very large war chest to rehabilitate her image prior to the general election. Also, none of the possible republican nominees are free from skeletons that can be revealed during the general election campaign. Their negatives will zoom up.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
19. But i still can't see people voting for another Bush - especially after W
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jul 2015

The Bush name is toxic....If she faced a GOP candiate who had some charisma, intelligence, young, somewhat moderate perhaps that would be someone to worry about....

But whomever wins the GOP nomination is going to be a far right kook, whose mission in life will be to defund Planned Parenthood...

I still think HRC can beat ANY of their crop of crap.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
21. Bush is hurting Clinton just by being in the race
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jul 2015

While the Bush name is toxic, him and Clinton being frontrunners bring the whole dynasty/oligarchy issue to the forefront. The backlash we're seeing with Trump and to a lesser extent Sanders is a result of Americans feeling like they're being told who to vote for and they don't have a true choice. I believe if Bush wasn't in the race right now Clinton would be doing much better.

Anyway, I don't see Bush winning the nomination, he may have money, but he doesn't have much charisma, is too moderate, and is a BUSH.

It will be Walker, Rubio, or Kasich perhaps, with Trump as the wildcard. I will be very, very worried if Kasich starts to rise. All of these candidates can beat or at least tie Clinton, especially with all the money that will be funneled into their campaigns.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
22. Good point, Kasich could be tough
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

& very tough in Ohio....

I don't think Bush is moderate...Perhaps compared to the other GOPers, he probably is....I'd be scared to death if Bush gets to nominate the next Supreme Court Justice(s)..

I remember reading recently: in 2012 team Obama was worried about Jon Huntsman in a general election...I don't know if his campaign even made it to New Hampshire, think he dropped out before that....He was pretty much 1-2% since announcing, and never moved from there....

But if it is Bush/Clinton, most people will equate peace & prosperity with the Clinton name before Bush...

6chars

(3,967 posts)
28. it will be tough to generate turnout against Kasich
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:04 AM
Aug 2015

with all the unicorns and flying pigs blocking the way to the polls

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
36. That's the Quinnipiac poll from last Thursday
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:02 AM
Aug 2015

which despite having been shown to be an outlier shows her to be the most popular and most favorably viewed candidate among Democrats.

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