I hope you would consider voting for Sanders. That said, I don't know enough about Joe to say whether I'd vote for him. All I know is that he didn't do too well during the 2008 primary, but is a nice guy.

We need real choice, the more the merrier for the primaries. I'd like to see Warren jump in too.

He's welcome to toss his hat in the ring, but I don't see myself supporting him.

He's in a statistical tie already and hasn't even announced.

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It's obvious that you're testing the waters for Biden. I'm with Sanders. If Joe wanted on, he should have done it months ago.

Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic presidential nominee, but you never know. More candidates should run. Kerry, Biden, Heinrich, Warren should run. Tom Vilsack should make a run too. He's the Agriculture Secretary.

And Warren has made it quite clear she's not running. Wishful thinking. I would vote for her in a heartbeat along with Bernie and Joe. Oops, three votes would only work if I lived in Florida.

He's been the Senator from New Mexico since 2013, he was a congressman from 2009 to 2013; he would help with young voters.

he cant get arrested nationally. his only contemporary value is cover.
maybe some folks think he would make a fine stalking horse or whatever term applies to
a false candidacy meant to if only plausibly divide voters in the primary.
he has no appeal outside of tiger beat.
every mention or move towards a Biden bluff is simply another way of fearfully reacting to the Bern.

Enjoy a peaceful and happy retirement, Joe.

If Hillary were to implode, I'd probably support O'Mally

But Joe tends to have a bad case of foot in mouth disease. In 2008 I was sidin' with Biden. I don't think he would do well in 2016. That is just my personal opinion.

that scabbed up, closed in 2008, but still leave scars and have left them with many Clinton supporters and donors alike.

and if Hillary's supporters (17 million strong) had stayed home, or even 11 million had stayed home, Obama would've lost the popular vote and in 9/10 trials, the EC. Not to mention, it was assumed Obama would offer an olive branch after the divisive primary. If he allows Biden in, and thus rips the olive branch up, it will not go unpunished.

Just no.

I'm for Bernie, but Joe would def be a very close second. I'm afraid people would think it would be a third term of Obama, which would be fine with me.

Working class voters win and lose General elections. If the nominee can't connect with them, game over, we lose. That's why I want Joe in '16.

how'd that work out? There was speculation too from writers who couldn't come up with better stories and Clinton-hater types who lacked respect for the Clintons. I like Gore, but back in 2007, he, unlike Hillary, had no major fundraising apparatus, no serious support in primary polls, and no chance. Weirdly enough, it was Bill Clinton who made Gore into a national figure: before, he was like Biden: a failed Democratic primary candidate.

As would most Hillary supporters and probably 10-25% of Bernie supporters who I believe are supporting him as the anti-Hillary more than anything else

Rick Perry, Fred Thompson, Wesley Clark come to mind.

Without seriously pursuing a campaign to this point, Biden would find it quite difficult, though not necessarily impossible, to mount a serious bid.

Because his press conferences would b littered with questions about Biden, and it would be hard to defend him without attacking Hillary and thus dividing the party. Plus members of his own admin, some of who have either endorsed Clinton or are close to them, would get flak either way. This is a can of worms Obama wants closed, especially if he wants members of the Dem caucus, many of who support the Clintons, to have to attack him.

(Reason 2 of 7) The Clintons

The vice president had a mostly cordial relationship with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and his longtime role as a champion of women’s rights amplifies his appreciation for the former first lady.

But, privately, he looks down on what he regards as a political/money-making machine. He sees the Clintons as far more interested in cash and clout than in doing good. “They’re everything he hates about the way politics operates today,” said one friend.

Biden may conclude that he is the only person in the party who can stop a Clinton return to the White House. If he enters the race, he will at least further complicate Hillary’s already dreary slog towards the Democratic nomination.

1) he would get many of the staff that would lead Hillarys campaign.

2) If done late enough in the game, he would show Hillary why she shouldn't have announced until September. When your positives are as high as his are, and as high as Hillarys were, you let the rumor mills campaign for you.

3) As for now, Hillary simply has what he would need to run. Her money and staff are his impediment.