2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumpaul ryan is apparently being seriously vetted as vp.
HMMMM...lets look at a few things here
grover norquhist said that he didn't want a president who will lead, but follow the rightist/bagger faction in the congress. According to him, all the president needs is enough working digits to sign whatever is sent his way. Under george w moron, there was a rubber stamp congress. In groverland, there will be a rubber stamp president. He made it very clear that what he wants is the ryan budget passed and his no taxes pledge only applies to taxes on rich people. If you want to screw the average American, than THAT is ok.
There are numerous billionaires who are contributing their bottomless fortunes to Super PACS designed to smear and defeat President Obama. This is done as they are supporting a man who has spent nearly 20 years demonstrating that he has NO CORE VALUES other that mining companies for every single nickle they can as they ship the jobs of thousands of Americans overseas. Also, the mormon faith that he will not discuss.
romney is so gaffe prone that he makes george w moron sound almost lucid. He is so out of touch that he makes bush senior look like a populist man of the people. He has a disdain for working class Americans and their values that he makes rightist radio hosts look like actual human beings (well, let me not get TOO crazy there!). He mistreats animals to the point that he makes dick cheney look like St. Francis of Assisi.
paul ryan is not only the man who constructed the most draconian budget possible, but he is also the man who makes ayn rand mandatory reading for his staff.
To me, the most scary sum of these parts is this...
...this would be the ryan/romney administration, much like the late and unlamented cheney/bush administration. The biggest differences are that romney's smile is a lot more phony and that ryan is still young enough to do WAY more damage than cheney.
How many ryan appointed SCOTUS justices would there likely be in the next 4 years? Holy shit, I think I'm going to get out my debit card and zing off another $10 bucks to the Obama/Biden campaign. This post is making me way more frightened now that I've written it than it ever did while I was thinking of it for the last couple of days. Sheesh! I'm not a person that scares that easily, either!
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Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)Ryan may be considered, but it would be surprising if he was chosen. I don't think he has enough foreign policy experience to debate Biden effectively, and it would allow Obama and the DNC to pin the unpopular Ryan budget on Romney, would it not?
Warpy
(111,277 posts)The RNC is going to hang some bible thumper around Romney's neck like a rotting albatross because they know the godly in Dixie and the upper midwest are their only reliable large voting bloc left and they'll need a fundegelical to talk to them.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)The last thing I'd want to see is ryan as the vp nominee.
However, as far a debating Joe Biden, I don't think that ANY rethug nominee would hac a chanc. He may have a reputation in the media for mis-speaking, but he a one damn good debater.
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Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)It's hard to know until we see them in action, but Sen. Rob Portman is considered more knowledgeable in areas like foreign policy and more of a match for Biden than some of these other names being mentioned (eg. Ryan, Rubio etc.)
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...I get the impression that he was last month's flavor.
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Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Two northern/midwestern politicians wouldn't please the far right wing in the Bible Belt. They want one of their own on the ticket to balance out Romney's "Rhino" factor as they see it.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)Also, romney could also claim MA & UT as his home state. The media would likely let him get away with it too.
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C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)What a pair !
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)Funny!
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russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)that grover clip over and over...
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...should be a huge issue in this campaign.
That thread, as many good threads are wont to do, sank like an iron turd.
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russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)grover should be the issue and by implication, all the nutjobs.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...doesn't that pretty much imply ALL of the 2012 repubs?
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)So Romney has already said his digits will do the walking on the Nordquist, ESAD budget. That's why no one can let this thing go the GOP. They have taken off the gloves and are telling us just what they are going to do.
If Americans are ready for that kind of country, with all that we've seen so far, don't look for us to ever come back. We might turn into fiefdoms run by plutocrats in the devolution of the USA.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...that when someone tells you what they are, BELIEVE THEM!
The only problem with that though, is that romney is anything that his auduence wants him to be.
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creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)Make the Ryan budget the central issue of the campaign. I don't think most people will vote for it if they know enough about what it is.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)"Hey Grandma! This guy wrote the plan to kill your Social Security and Medicare".
Well, the Romney camp has alienated pretty much everyone else. I guess it's time to piss off seniors.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...to piss everybody but the baggers, fundies and rich off!
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TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Ryan as VP opens a big play in Florida for the ads that properly explain the effect of his budget cuts on Medicare and Social Security.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)but they love their Medicare and Social Security. If Ryan is picked, you can go ahead and mark FL in Obama's column.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)When someone asks "Who is Ryan" this is the perfect answer. I think Ryan is poison to the Romney campaign and, as such, has my hearty endorsement!
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...I would LOVE another catastrophic rethug vp choice!
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TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)like a moth to a flame.
It's like they love to get their wings burned.
They are Icarus Moths.
longship
(40,416 posts)And to make it better we can hang the Ayn Rand cult and Grover around his neck, too.
As often in these scenarios, Hanna-Babera cartoons provide the result. Quoting Snagglepuss, Self-inflicted Bar-B-Que; they cooked their own goose. [Romney] Exit stage right.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)A FOND memory...NOSTALGIC, even...exit, stage left!
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emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Once they start hearing his horrible ideas.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)and sadly impressions is what matter with the low info types
If they spend a few minutes reading about how they'll get Coupons for Cancer if born 1955 and later they might vote against him -- but I don't even expect that these days..
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...ryan's plan, ayn rand cultists and good ol' grover starring in Obama/Biden campaign commercials!
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MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)As if it already weren't.
It would also let us see just how stupid we are as a nation, how corrupt our elections are and how over this country is.
I think the Supreme Court just permanently rendered your $10 moot.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...a whole lot of $10 bucks can make it a little closer.
Democrats being outspent and still winning has a considerable historical precedent. As the rethugs have found out many times, you can't always buy enough "make up" to make a Rosanne barr candidate look like a "Beyonce" candidate.
Also, ground game does matter.
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DFW
(54,408 posts)They're just vetting every name that flashes across their Fox Noise TV screen, knowing what happened the last time they chose someone they DIDN'T vet (i.e. Palin).
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...he's smarter than romney and ryan combined.
The biggest risk is that we'd have to keep a closer watch on our pic-a-nic baskets!
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(edited to correct a BOO BOO!)