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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:49 PM Aug 2015

Sorry, folks: Joe Biden is not running for president

By Paul Waldman August 3 at 11:53 AM

I have some bad news for the media: Joe Biden is not running for president.

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Like most politicians who have been around for a long time at a high level, Biden has a collection of satellites orbiting him — current and former staffers, friends, fundraisers, and the like — many of whom would surely like him to take one last shot at the big desk. But he has raised no money, hired no staff, done nothing that would suggest that he’s actually contemplating it seriously.

And then there’s this fact: it’s a terrible idea.

Biden is in some ways a skilled politician, but he happens to be abysmal at running for president. The first time he ran, in 1988, his campaign imploded when it was discovered he had plagiarized parts of some of his speeches from British politician Neil Kinnock — and then other instances of plagiarism, political and academic, emerged as well. (It’s an interesting historical footnote that when a video juxtaposing Biden’s and Kinnock’s speeches was discovered to have been produced by Dukakis campaign chief John Sasso, the press found the tactic so scandalous that Sasso was forced to resign. It was a more innocent age, I suppose.)

But it wasn’t like Biden was headed for the nomination in 1988 anyway. He was at best in the middle of a very large pack. When he ran again 20 years later, he did even worse. He came in a weak fifth in Iowa, garnering just under one percent of the vote, and promptly pulled out of the race. It seemed that voters’ response to him tended to run along the lines of, “He seems like a nice guy, but I’m voting for someone else.”

Biden’s time as vice president hasn’t been particularly notable, other than to reinforce his image as a lovable yet unpredictable guy, sort of a nutty uncle who’s a blast to have around because of all the crazy things he says, but to whom you wouldn’t necessarily want to trust the nuclear codes (and The Onion’s version of Biden may be the single best comedic character the Obama years have produced).

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Sorry, folks: Joe Biden is not running for president (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
Well that article is just Bull Hockey Peacetrain Aug 2015 #1
DITTO DITTO DITTO, Peacetrain! elleng Aug 2015 #5
Biden, clown. Paul Ryan, destroyed by Biden in veep debate, deep thinker. BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #2
DAMN rite!!! elleng Aug 2015 #6
Nate Silver agrees Gothmog Aug 2015 #3
I don't think that he's going to run either. Beacool Aug 2015 #4
Age...you keep making the argument for O'Malley! artislife Aug 2015 #7
It's not me who minds their age, I'm just saying that the electorate may find them too old. Beacool Aug 2015 #12
Gosh I have respect for all the Democratic Party's candidates, and love me some Biden. Iliyah Aug 2015 #8
He'll run only if... tgards79 Aug 2015 #9
Which is not likely to happen.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #11
At first I was unsure TSIAS Aug 2015 #10

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
1. Well that article is just Bull Hockey
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:57 PM
Aug 2015

and this

"Biden’s time as vice president hasn’t been particularly notable, other than to reinforce his image as a lovable yet unpredictable guy, sort of a nutty uncle who’s a blast to have around because of all the crazy things he says, but to whom you wouldn’t necessarily want to trust the nuclear codes" Is just freaking shameful.

And I am an O'Malley supporter.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
4. I don't think that he's going to run either.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 06:23 PM
Aug 2015

Biden is a decent and good man, but VP is probably his last public job. He did terribly in his last two runs for president. Age will also be an issue.

"That’s not to mention the fact that Biden will be 74 in January 2017 when the next president takes office, and 82 at the end of a second term. Our oldest president, Ronald Reagan, was a month shy of his 70th birthday when he took office in 1981, and his advancing age was a serious concern for his presidency (Hillary Clinton will also be 69 at the end of 2016). While there hasn’t been any public evidence that Biden’s age has impaired his ability to carry out the duties of the vice president, it would almost certainly become an issue if he ran."

Then again, Sanders is a year older. Although, I think that age will be a factor for him too.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
7. Age...you keep making the argument for O'Malley!
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 06:49 PM
Aug 2015

Check out his stand on issues, I think you will like him.

He seems a good sort!

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
12. It's not me who minds their age, I'm just saying that the electorate may find them too old.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

As it is, I think that Hillary is as old as anyone will be to still be considered viable. The invisible line was set by Reagan.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. Gosh I have respect for all the Democratic Party's candidates, and love me some Biden.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:02 PM
Aug 2015

If he ran, I would still support HRC tho. VP Biden would be my 2nd choice coupled with Gov. O'Malley. Chatter has been constant concerning potential VP Biden throwing in his hat. Oh well we shall see.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
11. Which is not likely to happen....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:06 PM
Aug 2015

polling now is factoring in Biden running and Hillary is sure to garner those votes.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
10. At first I was unsure
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:45 PM
Aug 2015

But now I truly believe that Biden is way more of a threat to Clinton than Sanders.

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