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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:32 PM Aug 2015

"Bernie Sanders Discovers His Inner #BlackLivesMatter"--Interesting Read

Bernie Sanders Discovers His Inner #BlackLivesMatter

by Evan McMorris-Santoro
BuzzFeed News Reporter


The man who put up a defensive front against black protesters at Netroots has discovered he has a record that appeals directly to their issues.

HOOKSETT, N.H. — This time, when Bernie Sanders got a direct question about what he can do to assist the growing Black Lives Matter movement, the Vermont senator was ready.

“As a white ally, what should we start doing tomorrow?” asked a young woman in the large and overwhelmingly white crowd at a town hall, held at Southern New Hampshire University. “In terms of political revolution?” she added.

Without a beat, Sanders ticked off the kind of focused answer that eluded him at Netroots in June. He spoke of fighting against the “absurdity” of the number of minorities in prison.

He took direct aim at police.


“Support a number of police reforms,” Sanders said to the young woman. “And it’s not just body cameras and so forth. It’s also issues of use of force. Being a cop is not an easy job, but force should be a last resort. Too often, it is almost the first resort.”

There’s nothing especially new about Sanders publicly questioning police tactics or railing against the American prison infrastructure and its outsize impact on young men of color. But after a careful listening tour with activists after the brouhaha at Netroots, a person familiar with Sanders’ thinking said the self-described Democratic Socialist learned he had to do more to tell his story to a movement uninterested in Civil Rights Movement nostalgia or being lectured to about the enduring economic divides that are the heart of Sanders’ campaign message.


So now, Sanders is trying to retell his story for a new audience.

On the campaign trail across six stops in New Hampshire this weekend, that meant a careful reading out of the names of black Americans who have died either at the hands of police or in police custody and are mentioned often by #BlackLivesMatter activists. The Sanders source said the candidate is as moved by these stories as anyone — when he was told a speech he had already scheduled in Texas was situated just 60 miles from the county jail where Sandra Bland died, he mentioned her death in his speech. A few days later, he told a crowd in Washington that Bland would not have died if she were white.


That kind of rhetoric has continued on the trail, and ramped up before the mostly white crowds in New Hampshire. At a stop in Exeter, Sanders said the police “were responsible” for Bland’s death. Throughout the weekend, he added mentions of Samuel Dubose to his stump, speaking repeatedly of his death as well as that of the half-dozen or so others.

“The police must be held accountable,” Sanders said at the SNHU stop.

Sanders supporters argue this is no pander. It’s Sanders being Sanders now that he understands the contours of a protest movement that clearly caught him off-guard at Netroots, they say. There, he responded to a #BlackLivesMatter disruption of a town hall event by chastising protesters that he had “spent 50 years fighting for civil rights and dignity.” That did not go over well among activists looking for specific, actionable solutions for ending the phyisical risk for black Americans that the activists say is caused by white supremacy.

Sanders is now trying very hard to project that he gets it. And that he always has gotten it.

A key part of Sanders’ brand is consistency — at a stop in Franklin, Ben Cohen (the Ben of Ben & Jerry’s and a frequent Sanders surrogate) told the crowd that he’s heard Sanders say the same things for so long “that if it wasn’t so inspiring, it would be boring.” The #BlackLivesMatter moment at Netroots and the ensuing backlash against Sanders from young black activists was jarring for Sanders supporters who generally view him as the lodestar for progressive values and are not used to leftists calling him anything less.


So Sanders has tweaked his stump speech by digging around into his record.

While mayor of Burlington, he said at one stop, he helped to create a community policing program like the ones now popular nationally among political leaders hoping to foster a better relationship between police and the people they serve. When executed properly, Sanders said in his last stop of the tour, police “are not seen as oppressors.”

Militarized police, “like the ones we saw in Ferguson,” Sanders said in a repeated line, are a danger to black lives and must be curtailed. Sanders has been talking about that since the fires in the Missouri town raged on TV in August 2014.

The private prison industry, long a Sanders target, gets a prominent mention in all of his stump speeches now, and is tied directly to a criminal justice structure that he says unfairly targets blacks.


But everything still comes back to the economic message. More than one month before Netroots, Sanders gave a speech about unemployment called “Youth Unemployment and Dr. King’s Dream,” which centered around a 51% black youth unemployment rate he found in a study he commissioned from the labor-backed Economic Policy Institute. (The figure has come under some scrutiny from fact-checkers.) The figure is now a central part of Sanders’ economic messaging as he talks about better jobs and better wages.

The billionaire class, which Sanders has forever said is stealing the country from the working Americans, is also one of the forces continuing to create a racial divide in the country, Sanders often argues.

“These guys are so powerful today. I know them. I know what Wall Street is about. I know what the Koch Brothers are about and the influence that they have,” he said at one stop in a version of a line he delivers at every stop. “But we have something they don’t. We have the people. And when the people stand together, when we do not allow them to divide us up on race, when we do not allow them to divide us up on gender, when we do not allow them to divide us up on sexual orientation, when we do not allow them to divide us up on whether we were born in America or born in Mexico. When we stand together, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish.”

Sanders is very careful to reach out to #BlackLivesMatter in every speech. He stops, reads the names off his printed notes, and says “Black lives matter” aloud often. He speaks of racism, he speaks of police. The Netroots protesters were heard, his team insists. Their cry is his cry.

“We have made progress,” Sanders said at the Exeter stop, “but we should all be aware that in terms of racism in terms of sexism, in terms of homophobia, we still have a long way to go.”

Sanders said that #BlackLivesMatter was a movement for all races to embrace.


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"Bernie Sanders Discovers His Inner #BlackLivesMatter"--Interesting Read (Original Post) KoKo Aug 2015 OP
Let em know you understand, you "get it" and will continue the work nc4bo Aug 2015 #1
this is political evolution heaven05 Aug 2015 #2
no it is not noiretextatique Aug 2015 #14
Understandable reasoning, yet flawed heaven05 Aug 2015 #18
^^^^this^^^^ southmost Aug 2015 #31
It's good to see this from him. druidity33 Aug 2015 #3
This is good and he'll get even better as the primaries go on uponit7771 Aug 2015 #4
much ado about very little, imho noiretextatique Aug 2015 #5
You guys just refuse to get it, don't you?! nc4bo Aug 2015 #6
I apologize for my fellow Bernie supporter. Aerows Aug 2015 #8
i am black, so no need to apologize for me noiretextatique Aug 2015 #11
whoa, really? heaven05 Aug 2015 #20
apparently you do noiretextatique Aug 2015 #24
Aerows, someone drops in and expresses an opinion nc4bo Aug 2015 #15
i am a black person noiretextatique Aug 2015 #10
That you are black makes you part of the problem. nc4bo Aug 2015 #16
and...why is that a problem? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #22
It's a problem romanic Aug 2015 #30
??????? heaven05 Aug 2015 #21
you are fighting something i am not a party to noiretextatique Aug 2015 #23
well, good for you heaven05 Aug 2015 #25
your choice eom noiretextatique Aug 2015 #27
our lives matter noiretextatique Aug 2015 #13
There already is a parallel NativeLivesMatter movement and twitter feed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #29
As I have stated to other Bernie supporters on this board who dismiss #blacklivesmatter... Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #9
unless you agree that bernie sanders noiretextatique Aug 2015 #12
blah, blah, blah, blah heaven05 Aug 2015 #19
it was the right thing to do. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #7
I'm glad to read this. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #17
... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #26
Why is anyone acting like this is some big surprise tularetom Aug 2015 #28

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Let em know you understand, you "get it" and will continue the work
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:41 PM
Aug 2015

Of racial justice. Get that message out then go into these communities! We need to know you're an ally and can trust your words.

Keep going.


Good job Senator!

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
14. no it is not
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:35 AM
Aug 2015

it is a defense against an unfair attack. this man has been on the forefront of the civil rights movement since before it was fashionable. clinton was the one who evolved on the issue. bernie was protesting housing segregation when she was still a goldwater girl. she left the pubnants because of civil rights long after sanders' evolution.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. Understandable reasoning, yet flawed
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:33 AM
Aug 2015

as has been the usual case during this run-up to primaries. Hillary and billieboys racist dog whistles during 2008 campaign will NEVER be forgiven by me and many, many others. And you're right, she is politically adjusting and apologizing, for votes strictly, I'm sure. But she's putting it out there. Concerning that RW creepublican meme about HRC and being a young creepublican, hell the darling of the progressive crowd now, Dr. E. Warren, was a creepublican, many years before seeing the light. She is still somewhat standoffish in her demeanor to us little people. Not her politics, her demeanor. And there is hardly a mention of that anywhere. But she's not running for POTUS, is she?

You all are going to be sniping, touting, whining, cajoling when it comes to the candidate you prefer. I really don't give a damn anymore, when it comes to this forum. Too much undercover racist ideology has seeped into this so called liberal and progressive forum since, let's just say, the murder of Trayvon Martin. I've watched THAT evolution. And neither BS, HRC or any present candidate started speaking forcefully on racial injustice until black frustration boiled over in Ferguson and Baltimore. And that only when the flames rose up and the smoke spread to the nostrils of the privileged. Then they started scrambling to give lip service to black concerns and a lot here started giving the usual white privileged meme used by the RW, "what's wrong with those people", "why are they burning and rioting, oh my, oh my" completely and purposefully ignoring what's behind this level of black frustration at a system that continues to institutionally and systemically oppress POC and now, the poor. But the poor don't 'know' it because they are constantly told by fox snooze who is causing their problems....

Sandra Bland had to die under extremely suspicious circumstance, for our liberal and progressive candidates to start touting their bonifieds in this ongoing and quietly submerged race war going on in Amerikkka. Oh yeah it's played down by the koch bros and moonie RW media control, but people out here in the streets know what's going on. Have no doubt in your mind. To all the privileged that started whining when #BlackLivesMatter interrupted our great liberal and progressive candidates, you're a sad bunch. But I know why you started whining just as I know why you don't really stand with POC against the systemic and institutional racism that is lethally entrenching itself, AGAIN, in ameriKKKan culture. Amerikkka is a nation that is truly returning to it's roots.

So have fun and continue on. The democratic party has my vote, whether I'll be holding my nose when pulling the lever is still to be seen. All these so-called liberal and progressive candidates still have a way to go to garner the kind of support my current POTUS got in TWO elections and well deserved I will say. Especially after watching his fight of 6+ years against the open racists and undercover racists of this system who have made it hard for him because of precisely one reason only...his skin color. Talk about wasting a valuable asset? But amerikkka has been doing that since the first genocide of native-Americans. The RWracist obstruction of President Obama started on inauguration 2008 and hasn't stopped since. Where was Bernie in defending Obama? HRC? O'Malley? The DNC? When the RW were trying to kill, politically and literally, President Obama and his family...yeah, I remember a small incident where the creepublicans posted where Obama's daughters were vacationing with their mother...small bit but very telling as to the hate of white privileged people for my POTUS. Never happened with a white POTUS. Anyone want links? Go find em, the net is full of them. My memory is like that goddamn elephant of the RWracist Party.

So snipe and tout. You provide me with a lot of entertainment and amusement. Please continue, "evolving"..... but I've seen nothing so far in 250 years worth of evolving, hell devolving is going on.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
3. It's good to see this from him.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:16 PM
Aug 2015

I expected his response to BLM to be heartfelt and thoughtful. I like it when my expectations are met.



K&R

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
5. much ado about very little, imho
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:21 PM
Aug 2015

i am glad he clarified his position, but all the hysteria about his original position was b.s. in the first place. he understands, as i do, that you cannot have social justice without economic justice...and vice versa.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
6. You guys just refuse to get it, don't you?!
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

I don't care how many OPs are created, how heartfelt, how pleading, how informative, how well thought out............

Black folks have been TELLING you how they feel over and over and it matters naught to some of you.

It's getting quite

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I apologize for my fellow Bernie supporter.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:48 PM
Aug 2015

I know I don't have to, because I know nothing about that person, but I wanted to reiterate that Bernie Sanders supporters aren't all short-sighted and oblivious to the challenges facing our black brothers and sisters.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
11. i am black, so no need to apologize for me
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:27 AM
Aug 2015

all the hoopla is classic bullshit, and i refuse to give it any credence.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
15. Aerows, someone drops in and expresses an opinion
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:32 AM
Aug 2015

That's their perogative. That they deny the truth and double down on their denial is a sign of their selfishness.

I'm a Sanders supporter already but want the black community to see him as a viable option.

I hope this person doesn't have to deal the reason #blacklivesmatter, NAACP or any other civil rights group exists.

Usually with this type, that's what it takes to see the light.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
10. i am a black person
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:24 AM
Aug 2015

so try that bullshit elsewhere. as i said, you cannot have one without the other. mlk and malcolm x agreed. so, is the problem? classic b.s., spread by a bunch of clinton supporters. she was a goldwater girl when bernie was protesting segregation. to her credit, segregation was key to her evolution to the democratic party...good on her. maybe she will not have a sistah souljah incident.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
16. That you are black makes you part of the problem.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 07:37 AM
Aug 2015

Sanders needs to do this.

This isn't tiny Vermont, this is the entire country.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
22. and...why is that a problem?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

except because a few people say it is a problem? really...the most liberal person in the race is a "problem" because he didn't...what?! is the faux outrage of the day regarding sanders that has not been manufactured?

romanic

(2,841 posts)
30. It's a problem
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:29 PM
Aug 2015

because you're not toeing the "line" some DUers have drawn. But don't worry I got you're back and as a fellow Sanders supporter, I understand you completely.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
23. you are fighting something i am not a party to
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

thank god. i don't really care that some black people are mad at sanders supporters here...i don't even care why. i will still support the most liberal candidate in the race, as usual. and it is not clinton.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
13. our lives matter
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:16 AM
Aug 2015

is my new chant after finding out that native americans are killed by police at a higher rate than any other group. and, as a black person, i do not see a problem with my new chant.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
29. There already is a parallel NativeLivesMatter movement and twitter feed.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

It's been around for a fair while. They not only have the problems with police, but thanks to jurisdictional issues, they also have a lot of problems with rape, sex slave trafficking, and murder around the rezzes by non-police whites.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
9. As I have stated to other Bernie supporters on this board who dismiss #blacklivesmatter...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:35 AM
Aug 2015

Knock it off and move on.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. unless you agree that bernie sanders
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:31 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Tue Aug 4, 2015, 05:21 AM - Edit history (1)

was dismissive of black lives, then there is no need to apologize. as for his idiot supporters, who cares? they are no any different than clinton supporters...some are idiots, some are not.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
7. it was the right thing to do.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:44 PM
Aug 2015

All the Democratic candidates have embraced this message as they should have. As should we all.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
28. Why is anyone acting like this is some big surprise
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:23 PM
Aug 2015

Sanders has been absolutely consistent in his support for racial justice, even if he has tried to avoid the embarrassing pandering that some of his opponents are prone to employ.

I'm glad his position is finally being clarified.

Sanders himself would never bring this up, but I think the disgraceful racist actions of the 2008 Clinton campaign against Obama need to be stressed. Because with all the pandering and fake Southern accents, it seems to have been forgotten.

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