He occupies nearly the same political position, so he'd have a hard time differentiating himself from her. Although he can raise some big $, it will still be far below Clinton. She's been planning for several years, and likely has locked up the prime Third Way campaign consultants. Also, he is a known quantity...although he'll see a modest boost in his poll numbers if he officially declares, he'll have difficulty boosting them further than that.

I imagine this is a conversation/concern going on in the back rooms.

We need everyone's help to win the General election. Can't risk alienating our most reliable voters.

Prisoners cannot vote and they do not earn money in the prison system. Am lost as to your post, please clarify!

for Mrs. Clinton. She never addresses the plight of the poor, she is for the working class and Wall Street.

Biden would beat Sanders one-on-one rather easily IMO.

Although Mrs. Clinton has a huge start, people do not trust her and she is not able to appeal to poor people. She is more for rich people, that is a big difference between her and VP Biden. I have seen her on TV, she comes across as royalty and seems entitled, I could be wrong.

I am told that Politicians lie but when she lied about her visit to Europe and was greeted with sniper fire was not true. Why did she lie about that. First and foremost, she voted for the invasion of Iraq, people do not forget that.

Folks in these communities know that she's taken money from the wrong groups and lobbyists. The Prison for Profit thing hits African American and Hispanic families the hardest. "So we have to go vote for a candidate who helps lock our families and neighbors up to help rich people profit?"

They don't need someone to tell them this, either. No nasty politics required. They already know.

If we have ANY chance of winning the General, we've gotta have a candidate who they will come out and vote for with enthusiasm. They aren't going to vote for someone who has the image of being rich and out of touch. If they don't show, we've got no chance in 2016. None.

(apologies for being so blunt)

are exactly controversy free in a general election either. ("Fast & Furious," Solyndra, anyone?)

See, Clinton-haters, both Clinton and Biden would get hit in a GE anyway with ethical allegations. The media and the GOP is just currently fixated with Clinton. They're not gonna hesitate to go after Biden if he's the nominee.

In a primary, it would also kind of be awkward for Biden to attack Hillary's email situation because Biden, as number 2, would implicitly also have responsibility and the GOP would love nothing more for Obama admin members to eat their own and make us look like clowns as they do.

had nothing on Biden. Biden says it like it is but no one is going to question his birth origin.

I want VP Biden to run as am not sure if Mrs. Clinton will be able to gain enough votes against the GOP and the last thing the world wants to see, is a conservative gaining power!

his and Barack's administration (because they are the two top guys in Washington) inevitably have been, and would be linked to Biden in a general election. They have plenty of ideas that if you think they'd hold back on, you're lying to yourself.

If VP Biden runs, he will win.

how don't I "know what I'm talking about?" Please elaborate.

Are you promoting them?

It is not generally considered acceptable to link to right wing sites and could be viewed with suspicion, especially if you appear to be somewhat contentious.

or meaningful is also right-wing originated or derived. Or made into something its not. As I said, this is a two way street.

I mean, a bogus "scandal" is a bogus scandal wherever its from, NYT included.

and unlikely to affect Biden in a presidential run.

Meanwhile, ANYONE who runs will get attacked by the opposition and the media. I seriously doubt anyone can come up with any ethical allegations against Biden that have any substance. That's why they go after him for so-called "gaffes".

how much did the witchhunts of yesterday and today (NYT story) turned up anything of consequence?? What illegal or even immoral has been proven of the recent allegations against Hillary?

Wow. Does that make you a "Bernie-hater" and a "Biden-hater"? Such hyperbole. That OOT stuff really diminishes.

despite the fact none of them amount to dog-shit, and the idea that Biden would magically avoid ethical attacks as Clinton-haters.

I think many of them wishing there was another choice will have an eye opening experience watching the debates. I really think O'Malley will shine through at that time. Not that he isn't now. He is the most accomplished democrat with the most progressive plans to move forward. I also think some of the Sanders supporters, who aren't supporting him due to their anger at the "PTB," will really be swayed in the debates. I am once again really excited about debates. It will be a serious battle between Hillary and O'Malley.

Thanks

Nothing like 'current' polling, eh???

As a poster here described so well, Biden appear to be a "Break in Case of Emergency" for the establishment.

To many Democrats he requires slightly less nose holding than Hillary.

the nominee if Hillary is not in the final. Yes, the Hillary supporters would support Biden overwhelmingly.

Clinton has a massive organizational, monetary, and endorsement advantage. Biden is really only viable as an insurance policy in case she is forced to withdraw for some reason. He doesn't have enough to distinguish himself as a candidate IMO. I think that if he really wanted to run and have a chance, he would have needed to get in a few months ago.

And since June 1st, she's only garnered 10 endorsements.

I'm not quite sure what it means, to tell you the truth. But I, for one, am not particularly impressed with endorsements garnered before there was any competition. And the significant slowing of them tells me that Democratic party figures are waiting for something.