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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:52 PM Aug 2015

Twitter Message from Black Lives Matters - Seattle

https://twitter.com/blm_seattle/status/630145741571264513




I hope this was only a matter of miscommunication and will be rectified.

I made some disparaging comments earlier so I certainly want to be fair in my assessment of this organization. If this is true, then I rescind my earlier allusions and hope ALL progressives and liberal can work together.
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Twitter Message from Black Lives Matters - Seattle (Original Post) Fawke Em Aug 2015 OP
I think it should be made very clear that this is an UNOFFICAL BLM twitterer Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #1
exactly questionseverything Aug 2015 #5
Then if it wasn't about BLM, what was it about? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #6
so it wasn't an error? Skittles Aug 2015 #7
Yeah--the entire premise of the thread is incorrect. It's a twitter message from some guy, not from MADem Aug 2015 #28
I'm sorry if you were angered. Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #2
Angered? Not really. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #9
I was quoting the tweet Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #10
Cool. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #15
What I am reading here is that the disruption was fantastic and that there will be many more. n/t djean111 Aug 2015 #3
someone has mastered the art of.the great American non-apology apology cali Aug 2015 #4
At this point I am not clear who represents BLM Seattle The empressof all Aug 2015 #8
Do they have one? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #12
BLM didn't have anything to do with that. These guys did, and they are not going to sit down or MADem Aug 2015 #31
And the group that staged today's #BowDownBernie event have only set up their facebook yesterday... Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #11
Bow Down Bernie? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13
Their goal was to get a photo op which they did not get .And it appears they are sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #17
I know they do. I just don't know who Fawke Em Aug 2015 #20
Rovian tactics, intended to demean anyone who is a threat to the status sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #30
There might be another goal... to fluster the candidate and get him to scream on TV... Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #24
Marrisa Johnson speaks at Black Lives Matter in Seattle event sufrommich Aug 2015 #19
Then she's really offensive. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #21
For real in what sense? How many people helped plan the thing? Was it OK'd by some committee? Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #23
I follow BLM online and have never seen anything like what these 'protesters' sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #14
It's just self-serving. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #26
It's more than that. Another apology has come from the official account of BLM sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #27
I don't buy it. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #29
I am in line now artislife Aug 2015 #16
Cool. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #22
Doing the wave artislife Aug 2015 #32
Sorry is a thought after the fact seveneyes Aug 2015 #18
Surprised it's not #ShutUpBernie jberryhill Aug 2015 #25
Appparently, it is #BowDownBernie. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #34
One thing is clear. These people don't give two shits that black people are being killed by police. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #33
 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
1. I think it should be made very clear that this is an UNOFFICAL BLM twitterer
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

Who has a grand total of 50 posts before today. They also stated that they are not a member of BLM.

questionseverything

(9,661 posts)
5. exactly
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:56 PM
Aug 2015

BlackLivesMatter-WA ?@blm_seattle 41m41 minutes ago
@ThePoliticalRev @urmomshouse2nte No, I'm not an official member. But I'm working hard to be I don't want people to think this about BLM

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Yeah--the entire premise of the thread is incorrect. It's a twitter message from some guy, not from
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:40 PM
Aug 2015

BLM. Anyone can create a twitter account. More to the point, the protest was organized by a different group entirely, not BLM, and this group's philosophies are more Huey Newton than Huey Lewis. They want to be heard, and they're not going to play the wallflower:

https://outsideagitators206.org/who-we-are/

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
9. Angered? Not really.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

I am a student of politics and what I was, was perturbed.

This is beginning to sound like political operatives more than activists, Anastasia (I do like a good Will & Grace marathon).

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
8. At this point I am not clear who represents BLM Seattle
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

The person who wrote that twitter post says in his feed he is not an official BLM spokesperson

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
12. Do they have one?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:08 PM
Aug 2015

And, if this person isn't the person, then who is and what is their explanation for disrupting their biggest ally?

I heard from some "members" on Twitter that I don't "understand" and that they know where HRC stands. I asked why they don't know Sanders' stand since it's been on the Internet for years, but was told I was condescending.

Apparently, they can insult others, but those of us who ask them legitimate questions are accused of not caring.

This is just not a way to make friends and influence people.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. BLM didn't have anything to do with that. These guys did, and they are not going to sit down or
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

shut up, as their statement of purpose makes clear:

https://outsideagitators206.org/who-we-are/


We are the Outside Agitators 206.

First off, we have four points of unity:

We center Black voices to celebrate and affirm Blackness. We believe that any movement to end anti-Black racism must be led by Black people.
We believe that everyone has a right to resist their oppressors and what resistance looks like varies for different individuals and different circumstances.
We don’t directly speak to corporate media, nor do we need them. We are our own voice.
Fuck the police: As an institution fundamentally rooted in white supremacy and anti-Blackness we reject the police presence in our communities, absolutely. It is our responsibility to hold each other accountable and keep each other safe.
We are abolitionists in the year 2015. We want an end to police terror, we want an end to slavery that is the prison system, and we want the people who profit from this held accountable.


Aside from that, we are as varied as the plant life in the North West. We are youth, students, workers, parents, teachers, artists, street philosophers, survivalists, revolutionaries, solutionaries, Queer, Black, Brown, Indigenous, and White Allies. We are from the town, we are transplants, we are economic refugees, we are the result of colonization, slavery and genocide. Essentially we are people that deserve a dignified life and want the same for our brothers and sisters in the struggle towards Black Liberation. Cuz when Black folks get free, we all get free.

We do this work in Memory of Mike Brown-18, Oscar Grant-22, John T. Williams, Eric Garner-43, Tamir Rice-12, Rumain Brisbon-34, Akai Gurley-28, Kajieme Powell-25, Ezell Ford-25, Dante Parker-36, John Crawford III-22, Tyree Woodson-38, Victor White III-22, Yvette Smith-47, McKenzie Cochran-27, Jordan Baker-26, Kimani Gray-16. These are only a small portion of those that were murdered by police, we do this work for all those un-named, for the families that have lost a loved one to police violence, for all those that have been brutalized daily by the police.

“This ain’t your daddy’s civil rights movement” – Tef Poe
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
11. And the group that staged today's #BowDownBernie event have only set up their facebook yesterday...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:06 PM
Aug 2015
PRESS RELEASE: Black Lives Matter Seattle ‪#?BowDownBernie‬ Action

MEDIA CONTACTS: Marissa Johnson blacklivesmatterseattle@gmail.com

Black Lives Matter Seattle organizers and supporters take over Bernie Sanders’ rally at Westlake on Saturday, August 8, 2015.
Today BLM Seattle, with the support of other Black organizers and non-Black allies and accomplices, held Bernie Sanders publicly accountable for his lack of support for the Black Lives Matter movement and his blatantly silencing response to the ‪#?SayHerName‬ ‪#?IfIDieInPoliceCustody‬ action that took place at Netroots this year.


https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. Bow Down Bernie?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:10 PM
Aug 2015

Wow.

Their goal is to make people kiss their ass like white people have done to them for years?

They sound like right-wing Israelis who don't remember what the Nazis did to them as they corral and ghettoize Palestinians.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Their goal was to get a photo op which they did not get .And it appears they are
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:14 PM
Aug 2015

not representative of BLM at all. A new FB page? BLM already has a huge online presence.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
20. I know they do. I just don't know who
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

the individual members are in total, obviously. No one really could.

But #BowDownBernie?

So offensive.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. Rovian tactics, intended to demean anyone who is a threat to the status
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:42 PM
Aug 2015

quo. BLM doesn't seem to know who they are either. Another apology has come from them implying they are not familiar with them. And they certainly don't appear to be speaking for the movement, which from day one, I doubted and said so.

Seeing people here jumping on this bandwagon after NRN made me wonder where they were during the Ferguson protests, since I never saw any of them help US try to keep an interest here on DU in this most serious issue. The 'sudden support' for the issue literally stunned me as I recall one of the best reporters of the events surrounding Ferguson, posted his goodbye due to 'lack of interest' on DU. We begged him not to leave, but he like many of us, went elsewhere to try to get support for AAs re this terrible situation.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
24. There might be another goal... to fluster the candidate and get him to scream on TV...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:24 PM
Aug 2015

Some people would like nothing better than for him to get frustrated and yell "Shut Up!" or "What the Hell is Wrong with You People?!". And have that be the end of his campaign.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
21. Then she's really offensive.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:20 PM
Aug 2015

And I'm tired of hearing how I don't "get it."

Yes, I do.

What I don't get is how this helps any progressive cause - theirs, mine, the working person, the gay person. I do, however, see how it helps yours.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
23. For real in what sense? How many people helped plan the thing? Was it OK'd by some committee?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

Who's accountable? She's the leader of a cell of a few people? Maybe 5 people?

I sure as hell hope #BowDownBernie isn't the message of a group of people larger than 5.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. I follow BLM online and have never seen anything like what these 'protesters'
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:11 PM
Aug 2015

are doing approved of by the people involved in the movement.

That sounds like it came from someone who does represent the movement, is embarrassed by what these protesters did in THEIR name.

Good for them.

Shameful to USE such a horrible and ongoing crime against AAs for political purposes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
26. It's just self-serving.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:33 PM
Aug 2015

It's just about wanting personal face time on camera. It just marginalizes BLM movement by pissing off their allies. It's too bad, but that's what happens when you have narcissistic leadership.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
27. It's more than that. Another apology has come from the official account of BLM
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:38 PM
Aug 2015

who don't seem to know who these people were.

But I don't agree it is just about 'face time' for this group.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
18. Sorry is a thought after the fact
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:15 PM
Aug 2015

Lots of people are sorry after they fuck up. Special is as special doesn't.

onecaliberal

(32,902 posts)
33. One thing is clear. These people don't give two shits that black people are being killed by police.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:42 PM
Aug 2015

If they truly did, they would be begging the first black president and his attorney general to do something, anything to help. Since they are actually IN OFFICE NOW.

It's interesting that they are going after the one person who has done the most for all people. Bernie wont take office for two years. Maybe they should change their name to #blackliveswillmatterintwoyears. Apparently they don't care to go to the people who might be able to help NOW.

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