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Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:20 PM Aug 2015

When BLM confronted Gov. Omalley at Netroots...

I do not recall it being named a Clinton brown shirt movement to go after my candidate..

Or our people calling out we were being targeted by Sanders and Clinton political movements by their financial backing of BLM..

Just saying folks.. just saying..

whew

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When BLM confronted Gov. Omalley at Netroots... (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2015 OP
Here's what O'Malley did after being confronted: FSogol Aug 2015 #1
He did the right thing.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #4
From Bernie's website: Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #21
that's pretty paltry bigtree Aug 2015 #22
I don't remember any communications between NRN and BLM mmonk Aug 2015 #2
Good point. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #12
And was there any one claiming that O'Malley..... daleanime Aug 2015 #3
almost every article about O'Malley and the black community bigtree Aug 2015 #24
Thank you for writing that JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #27
I had forgotten that O'M was also confronted riversedge Aug 2015 #5
Yeah, I think Gov. O'Malley handled it way better than Sen. Sanders has texstad79 Aug 2015 #6
Because 10 people does not a rally make Politicalboi Aug 2015 #7
Yep Andy823 Aug 2015 #8
Remember how we used to laugh at Christian extremists and Republicans FSogol Aug 2015 #9
Yes I do Andy823 Aug 2015 #30
Are there #bowdownomalley and #bowdownhillary hashtags? WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #10
O'Malley will keep being overlooked artislife Aug 2015 #11
Why? I hear Baltimore policing under O'Malley's mayoral stint... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #15
They don't see O'Malley making any impression artislife Aug 2015 #16
So they target a Jewish man, whose father was mostly wiped out... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #19
I really don't think it is artislife Aug 2015 #20
I've been told numerous times it's because Bernie's supporters are "mean" on Twitter. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #25
I have an interesting take away from the mean twitter meme artislife Aug 2015 #28
Asshats yes, and trolls. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #31
Good point. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #13
Because Sanders' supporters have been horrible to AA users on twitter. askew Aug 2015 #14
Oh, boo hoo. Liberals are constantly called all sorts of nasty things... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #17
Those hashtags exist, and if they didn't you just created them. Agschmid Aug 2015 #23
What traction have they gained in relation to the anti-Sanders one? WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #26
Me either so no idea... Agschmid Aug 2015 #29
I can promise you and prove to you that Obama supporters trashed the life out of LGBT people for Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #18
Amazing how the negative, distorted spin was targeted at Sanders and not O'Malley. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #32
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. From Bernie's website:
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

Racial Justice
We must pursue policies that transform this country into a nation that affirms the value of its people of color. That starts with addressing the four central types of violence waged against black and brown Americans: physical, political, legal and economic.

Physical Violence
Perpetrated by the State
Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Rekia Boyd, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Tamir Rice, Samuel DuBose. We know their names. Each of them died unarmed at the hands of police officers or in police custody. The chants are growing louder. People are angry and they have a right to be angry. We should not fool ourselves into thinking that this violence only affects those whose names have appeared on TV or in the newspaper. African Americans are twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/
https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
22. that's pretty paltry
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:55 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:22 AM - Edit history (1)

...and his campaign evidently doesn't consider that a criminal justice reform plan. Neither do I.

Reports says he's coming out with one 'in the near future.'

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
3. And was there any one claiming that O'Malley.....
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015

couldn't get black support before or after Netroots?

Not that I think we would be able to have a constructive conversation about this. Have a great day.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
24. almost every article about O'Malley and the black community
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

...tries to make an issue out of the decades-ago policy of his city police force when he was mayor of zero-tolerance detentions for petty crimes and tenuously relates that to tensions today because of the recent Baltimore uprising. Almost every article about the black community and O'Malley. He hasn't escaped criticism and is very much under scrutiny by black activists and advocates, among others commenting on his relationships with blacks.

His actions in that regard, as mayor, are questioned in almost every interview he's had, including at the very beginning of the Netroots Nation interview! How did you miss that?

JustAnotherGen

(31,907 posts)
27. Thank you for writing that
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

Obviously that poster is in the dark about O'Malley -hopefully he/she knows.

riversedge

(70,311 posts)
5. I had forgotten that O'M was also confronted
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:47 PM
Aug 2015

at netroots. Thanks for the reminder. and I admit--with so many asking why ONLY sanders-I made the assumption it was ONLY sanders. OOPs

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
8. Yep
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:37 PM
Aug 2015

If you read all the posts here on DU, you would think that it is ONLY Bernie being targeted, and yet as far as I know there have only been two times so far that this has happened. The first one at Netroots where it was "O'Malley" that had his mic taken from him, and yesterday at a Sanders event. I even have a thread asking if I am wrong and there might have been more, but so far nobody has given be an answer.

If I am right and it's only happened twice and once O"malley was the one they went after, then I really think the meme that Bernie has been "targeted" is just plain silly.

FSogol

(45,529 posts)
9. Remember how we used to laugh at Christian extremists and Republicans
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:48 PM
Aug 2015

for their victim-hood complex?

Good times!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
30. Yes I do
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:36 PM
Aug 2015

I get so tired of those playing the "victim" card all the time. If Bernie had been targeted by this group at every event he has had, then that would be a different story, but it happened once when O'Malley was on stage at an event that also hosted Bernie, and than again yesterday, this does not constitute any kind of a pattern where he, and he alone has been the target. For his supporters to come up with this meme, and to also try and lay the blame on Hillary, is absurd.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
10. Are there #bowdownomalley and #bowdownhillary hashtags?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:55 PM
Aug 2015

Sanders is being targeted. I would never resort to brown-shirt comments, but am not so naïve as to believe political dirty tricks by the perpetually slick Clintons and their acolytes are not a possibility.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
11. O'Malley will keep being overlooked
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

Because he is being overlooked by the vast majority. Rightly or wrongly, he has no following to speak of. It would be futile to hound him.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
15. Why? I hear Baltimore policing under O'Malley's mayoral stint...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:11 PM
Aug 2015

is a big issue within the black community. Did #BLM miss that memo? Has #BLM not connected the Clinton prison-industrial-complex dots of the 1990s? For some baffling reason, Sanders is being targeted, and none of it appears to be in good faith. It appears to be about nothing other than tantrum-throwing children getting the opportunity to call Sanders supporters "white supremacist liberals." It stinks to high heaven.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. They don't see O'Malley making any impression
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Aug 2015

Sure, there are a lot of bigots down the street, but protesting them won't garner focus.

Not saying O'Malley is a bigot.

I am just saying he has no chance, at least at this moment, of getting attention for himself let alone being used as a lightening rod.
The clouds are not in his sky.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
19. So they target a Jewish man, whose father was mostly wiped out...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:27 PM
Aug 2015

in the Holocaust, to attack. And to ice the attack cake, they refer to his supporters as "white supremacist liberals."

Oh, they're getting attention alright. But not for the right reasons.

Hmm, Sanders/O'Malley. I like it.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
20. I really don't think it is
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

about Bernie the person and not even so much Bernie the candidate.

It is about a large group of people gathering together how on the whole, haven't paid attention to BLM. They are ripe for getting in your face.
It worked in the long run with Code Pink, the MADD, PETA.

PETA is a great example. They threw paint on furs...whoever was wearing them it didn't matter. People were outraged.

But now, very few people wear furs. The fake fur market is now fashionable. They reduced the number of animals being killed for their fur.

Very effective and very agressive.

The target is actually not the most important part of the action.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
25. I've been told numerous times it's because Bernie's supporters are "mean" on Twitter.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

I shit you not. There is an example down-thread. Even on DU I hear how members are "soured" against Sanders because of anonymous posters on a message board. Idiotic, and I question how seriously these people take voting.

MADD got drunk-driving laws on the books. Not sure how effective Code Pink are, but I support their actions against warmongers like Kissinger and Rice. ACT UP was effective. But if you read Seattle's #BLM press release, they're cheesed off because they don't believe Sanders has sufficiently sucked up to their movement. Never mind that he has been a civil rights advocate for DECADES, and has invited #BLM into the fold. They didn't like his response at NRN, but need to learn that Sanders doesn't suffer fools. As someone pointed out last night, they're getting *mauled* on social media by a diverse crowd. We'll see where this goes, but attacking the ONE candidate who sincerely gives a shit makes zero sense to me.

PETA needs to start throwing paint again -- a lot of new money has embraced fur.





 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
28. I have an interesting take away from the mean twitter meme
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

I think the number of supporters of Bernie is far larger than anyone is estimating. The number of asshats in any one group is always a certain percentage. Because there are so many mean twitterers, that means the pool from supporters that they come from is large. Very large.

Also, people in social media tend to be more vocal and extreme. Read any yahoo reply section. We are invisible and able to let out our screaming personality.

I was so disgusted by PUMAS and old white feminist women in 2008 that it took me a while to untangle it from feminism, white women of a certain age and Hillary.

Hillary is still not untangled in my mind. No way.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
31. Asshats yes, and trolls.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:48 PM
Aug 2015

I'm just baffled as to why so many take tweets as gospel. I mean, when I wade into any online Comments sections, I weed out those I consider sincere, and those of a shit-stirring nature. It's pretty easy to tell who is being constructive, and who is not. But I don't let the asshats influence my opinion of anything, especially my vote! I seem to differ from many others in that regard.

askew

(1,464 posts)
14. Because Sanders' supporters have been horrible to AA users on twitter.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:07 PM
Aug 2015

Those hashtags are in response to his supporters not Sanders himself. Most of the people tweeting those hashtags aren't Hillary supporters. Most are Obama supporters who don't really like any of the 2016 candidates. But, Bernie's supporters are the only ones being assholes to AA twitter users. Seriously, look at the twitter feeds for @elonjames, @GoldieTaylor, @JoyAnnReid, @CharlesMBlow, etc. to see the stuff that is being tweeted by Bernie supporters. It is horrifying.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
17. Oh, boo hoo. Liberals are constantly called all sorts of nasty things...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

at DU thanks to a couple of BOGers who never miss an opportunity to slam, and I don't go running to Twitter to create a #bowdownobama hashtag. Grow up, people. And the hashtag should read #bowdownberniesupporters if the issue is indeed with the supporters and not Mr. Sanders himself.

Just yesterday a group of my peers was called "white supremacist liberals" at a Sanders event. Does that fit into your idea of "horrifying"?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
23. Those hashtags exist, and if they didn't you just created them.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:01 PM
Aug 2015

That's social media for you, the good and the bad.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
26. What traction have they gained in relation to the anti-Sanders one?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

I haven't been on Twitter or Faceoobk in ages.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. I can promise you and prove to you that Obama supporters trashed the life out of LGBT people for
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
Aug 2015

each and every item of disruptive politics in which we engaged and many of those folks on DU are now Hillary supporters and they are now fully supportive of disruptive political tactics. They called us complete fools, said that anyone who heckles anybody for any reason at anytime was an idiot.
What would YOU make of that?

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