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(Note: The original title for this OP read, "An update on the apology that wasn't from BLM (and no, they weren't paid operatives either)." Upon consideration of some things a friend pointed out, I have removed the parenthetical portion of the title. The young woman who wrote the apology apparently believes the two women who disrupted Bernie's rally are not paid operatives. But she really only has the word of those two women to that effect, and they are hardly a credible source. So we still don't know if they were paid agitators, and if they are members of an actual BLM chapter, or an imposter organization. I sincerely wish someone from the national BLM organization would issue a statement clarifying (1) whether or not the organization these two women claim to have founded is actually a local chapter of BLM, (2) if it is not, whether these two women are members of an actual local chapter iof BLM, and (3) whether their actions were carried out under the auspices of a legitimate chapter of BLM. BLM needs to clarify this, and soon!)As most of you probably know by now, what was widely hailed as an 'apology' by BLM was not by BLM at all. It was by a 16-year-old named Nikki who started a Facebook page called "Black Lives Matter Seattle," without clearing it with the local chapter of BLM. Nikki was, to her great credit, appalled by the action against Sanders, and was eager not to see the entire BLM movement tainted by it. She later changed the name of her page to "Black in Seattle. Here is a statement she posted today on that page:
Hello. My name is Nikki and this will be my first time posting on this page under it's new name. I would like to address all points of confusion with my page as well as my thoughts on yesterday's rally.
1.) I started this page under the name Black Lives Matter Seattle with out realizing I had to check with the official chapter members of Seattle and the national network. The name has since been changed to Black in Seattle
2.) The two women that were at the rally yesterday were actually members of BLM Seattle
3.) I have spoken to them and as far as I know, they are not conspirators with any other democratic candidates or the GOP
4.) I personally support Bernie Sanders. But I can not apologize for them or speak for them about what happened yesterday and they have not apologized
Ok, now that that those points are cleared up, I would like to talk about the reasoning behind the interruption. I can see that there are thousands of you who have viewed my page and a lot of you have written in to show your displeasure about it. I was watching MSNBC this morning and women from BLM really shed some light on what happened. This is not the first time a candidate has been interrupted on stage by BLM and it won't likely be the last. Those women, like many others, are on the front lines of a movement. They are trying to send a message to the candidates that their sympathy is not enough. There needs to be some real change. It may have looked rude to many, but the message must be sent through whatever means necessary and every opportunity must been taken (even if the delivery was poor). Please, let go of your anger towards the women and direct it towards police brutality. Do not let yourself be distracted from the deaths!! People are still dying!! Every28 hours there is another death. THAT is what truly should disgust you. Not everything in a movement can be perfect. But our allegiance to them must still be strong. I still support BLM and I think you all should too.
I posted the following comment in response to Nikki:
These two women shut down an important appearance by the ONE candidate in this race who has actually put himself on the line in the cause for civil rights. He is the ONE candidate who, not only during this race but throughout his political career, has consistently spoken out on issues such as police brutality and economic injustice -- both of which are issues that are not exclusively issues of race, but which play out disproportionately along racial lines. In this race, he is the ONLY one talking about youth unemployment, especially among African American and Latino youth. Thus, to shut down a candidate like Bernie Sanders, whose candidacy is already thought by many to be a long shot against extremely well-funded opponents both in the primary and, if he is nominated, in the general election, is simply inexcusable. After all, he won't be able to do anything if he isn't elected.
You say he isn't the first nor the last to be challenged by BLM. Okay, yes, they also did something similar to O'Malley, another progressive. But to date they have given all 17 of the GOP candidates a pass. And that fact, by itself, undermines the excuses being offered for the action against Sanders.
The allegations by some that these two women were political operatives paid by Hillary, or the Koch brothers, or the GOP are telling, because they indicate that people really _want_ to believe the best about the BLM movement, and had a hard time believing that BLM had actually sanctioned this action. It was actually easier to believe they were paid operators rather than that their actions genuinely spoke for the BLM movement. But, I should point out, we still don't know that they weren't political operatives. It's not like they would tell you if they were.
Look, these two women did something all human beings do at one time or another: they screwed up, and big time. For the sake of their own credibility and that of BLM, and more importantly for the sake of the success of the fight against the very issues BLM is fighting against, they should acknowledge their error and apologize.
Malraiders
(444 posts)Nikki is deliberately remaining in the dark about the whole thing and has little if any credibility.
And This:
Black Lives Matter Seattle Co-Founders
Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford
#BowDownBernie
#SayHerName
#IfIDieInPoliceCustody
#?NotOneMoreDeportation
#?FreePalestine
#?MikeBrown
#BlackLivesMatter
From: https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts), , , trying her best to navigate fraught issues.
Malraiders
(444 posts)nonexisting apolory/
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Malraiders
(444 posts)actions of the perps and the perps have not done so either.
So that begs the question of the origin of the apology.
So did she apologize and then discover that she built a bogus FB page and has no position to apologize even though the Bernie dirupters are listed as co-founders of the bogus FB page?
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)After realizing that her apology was being taken as an apology on behalf of BLM, she realized she needed to clarify that she was not speaking on behalf of the local BLM chapter, nor on behalf of the protesters, but on behalf of herself only. That's the kind of naive mistake one can expect from a 16-year-old. And she issued a retraction yesterday (not the one I posted above, but an earlier one) as soon as she realized the confusion she had caused.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)the longer it takes for some grownup types to come forward and own this mess its going to fester.