2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFellow Bernie supporters. Let's set a higher ground here, and emotionally
when our candidate at various events is not allowed to carry his message whatever it be for that day. Let's disengage from the claims he and we are unconcerned about lives of African Americans being killed by an unjust society. We know it is false. Let Bernie handle it. There is absolutely nothing we can do about the circumstances of the canard he and his campaign or any speeches dealing any other problems are judged to be deliberate misplacement of priorities when all our problems are priorities. I sometimes wonder what the current DOJ's priorities are besides revolving doors and golden parachutes? Stay focused and true to principles. That is something the dirty and dishonest world of American politics and its system cannot rob of us. So just hold onto it and move forward.
Peace out.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Might be a little late though.
Response to DanTex (Reply #1)
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restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)if you are ok with their resumes, then there should be no problem with others finding out what they do or who they support.
R B Garr
(16,975 posts)on her backpack. High school is age 14 to 17/18. All this fuss over a high schooler's backpack button. LMAO, yeah, I would say you people do have to "elevate" out of this. It's really pathetic the tactics the grown people here are doing over this. Candidates are flamed all the time. This is nothing.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Also, I realized that providing you links is a pointless waste of time. You have made your reality, and everything else must conform to it.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)You're great at throwing around smears without backing them with links.
And after providing you links on many topics that did not conform to your reality, I realized it was a waste of time. You're not going to accept anything that contradicts your opinions no matter what the source is.
After all, you entered this thread complaining about all the "smearing" threads.....that actually contain the links you claim to seek. How weird that you are unable to click on them unless I provide them.
Probably has nothing to do with your reply to those very links you now claim to seek. Which you will now claim to have never seen, despite replying to posts with them.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But when I make factual claims, I back them with links.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)You made a factual claim without a link. Must've accidentally forgotten to paste it, right?
Also, I wasn't joking about replies. You literally replied to a post with the links you claim you now seek.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I know, I know, Bernie's not responsible for his hateful supporters, but still, smearing a BLM activist because they had a Sarah Palin pin in high school isn't really a winning strategy.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Again, you replied to the links you now seek. You complained about having to go through her history instead of a direct links to many of posts.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)What's more, the link that someone else finally provided contradicted your smear.
I guess I should have clarified, by "provide a link" I meant a link that actually supports your claim, not refutes it.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)How odd for someone who always provides links for factual claims!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The one that says "former" Palin supporter, and talks about her having a Palin button in high school?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Because Palin isn't running anymore. Is she still a Republican?
artislife
(9,497 posts)poster from the other side making their case.
But yes, I have been saying since Netroots, to let it go. So I agree, lets focus on the newly engaged in his campaign and the ones who have been with him for the 3 or more months!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)My solution for this was putting something like 100 DLC/Third Way type corporatists on ignore, and then put others on ignore as I come across their posts.
Life is so much better now that I rarely have to deal with Third Way RW bullshit.
If corporate propagandists have no audience, they'll be forced to use their strawmen on each other, and a few newbies who haven't learned about the ignore button yet.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)about this ignore list
so it looks like if you click on a name, you can then click ignore and then they go on the ignore list. So then when you read threads, their stuff just doesn't show up? and i can enjoy life outside the bernie group? Sounds .......pleasant.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Politics is a filthy, dirty, disgusting business. You will be tromping through the muck and shit, so you might as well pick up some hipwaders instead of wearing a nice suit.
And those principles are why you are bothering to wallow around in that filth. Not a reason to avoid it.
"We know it's false" is a recipe for it to become "true". Embodied by "I read somewhere that....."
Also, your proposal perfectly reinforces BLM's complaints - that Sanders (and his supporters) aren't talking about their problems.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)The campaign is showing us, is reminding us, that the political revolution is about bringing people together.
We stand together.
We cannot allow ourselves to be divided if we want to win.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)particularly the false image of him as a well meaning but limited and unworldly older man from Vermont, a dominant white state with few blacks and minorities, who has only the Civil Rights record from his college activism in the 1960s, fifty years ago. Nothing could be further from the truth. Supporters could help out by informing people more about Bernie's continued 40 year effort to support policies for all Americans including blacks, minorities, women, LGBT people, immigrants and others if they took time to note many articles and videos posted here. As his message reaches more people, this is where the likely attacks on Bernie will come from by antagonist insiders on both sides, along with the obvious boogeyman, democratic socialism.
Examples include a recent video posted of Bernie speaking in 1986 to a Rainbow Coalition of mayors with Jesse Jackson before his 1988 presidential run, and an important July Buzzfeed article that featured Democrat and CA Rep. Barbara Lee who has worked with Bernie for decades, saying the 2016 campaign work Bernie's doing now and his message are very important.
Last week I posted on Bernie's recent Aug. 6 speech at a celebration at the National MLK Jr. Memorial in DC for the 50th anniversary of the VRA, the Voting Rights Act passed by LBJ in 1965. The event was sponsored by prominent Civil Rights organizations and included guests like Martin Luther King III who Bernie acknowledged, and NAACP Pres. and CEO Cornell Williams Brooks who also spoke out on the rise of voter suppression particularly since the 2013 US Supreme Court decision to nullify a key clause in the VRA regarding states with a history of voter discrimination.
On his campaign tour of Louisiana recently Bernie spoke at an event noted here, a meeting of the distinguished Civil Rights group, the SCLC, the Southern Christian Leadership Council founded in 1957 and so firmly affiliated with Martin Luther King, Jr. the organization's first president. Earlier in July Bernie gave a very well received speech to a responsive audience at a conference by La Raza, the oldest and largest advocacy organization for Latinos in the US.
The long record of Bernie's work advocating policies to help all Americans and workers is typified by the recent $15 Minimum Wage Rally in DC at the US Capitol attended by thousands of federal contract workers, and speakers Bernie and MN Rep. Keith Ellison. Bernie also has long ties and relationships with national level government representatives like Lee, Ellison, John Conyers of Michigan and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus co-founded by CA Rep. Ron Dellums in 1971, and the Congressional Progressive Caucus which Bernie helped establish in 1992 that currently has a membership of 70 Congressional representatives.
Bernie's vast and diverse record is an asset, not a detraction from his formidable achievements in this critical 2016 presidential campaign. Let's keep it up, Go Bernie!
azmom
(5,208 posts)We are all being screwed by the existing rigged system. Some more than others, but we are all victims of the system.
Latinos for Bernie!!!
Vinca
(50,303 posts)I try very hard to remain civil, but if I disagree with the actions of any group I won't hesitate to say so.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)It's out of our hands. I'll still push his message to non propagandized ears in hopes they like what they hear. Revolutions take a long time and time requires patience no matter how the status quo damages us in America.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)We all stand together!!
Drown them out!!
Enough is enough!!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Why the hell aren't these protesters going after the people who actually have the power to do something about the killings of young black people by the cops, namely Obama and his justice department.
BLM seems way more concerned with what Bernie Sanders might do than what Obama hasn't done and isn't even doing yet.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Sounds like the Dems' strategy of "letting the Reublicans hand themselves" for the last 20 years. How'd that work?
frylock
(34,825 posts)this "liberal white supremacist" is done taking the high ground. I'm not going to #bowdownbernie. fuck. this. shit.