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A young woman is making that claim on facebook:
Just from social media alone I been saying Bernie Sanders supporters are the worst but I found out today that not only did they call black folks the n word, not only did they say shit like black lives don't matter, not only did they go after any black body they saw yesterday & talk shit, but they were also out there fuckin biting people . Yes biting people.
I'm waiting for yall mfs to be outraged about that. I'll wait 😴😴😴😴
I don't want to post her name. But there it is.
UPDATE -- A PERSON WHO WAS ALLEGEDLY BITTEN AT THE EVENT HAS POSTED A PICTURE OF THE BITE AND A PICTURE OF THE ALLEGED BITER, ON FACEBOOK. I AM WAITING TO SEE IF SHE GIVES PERMISSION TO SHARE THOSE PHOTOS.
IF I POST THESE, IT WILL BE SO THAT DU CAN SEE, AND EXAMINE FOR ANY TRUTH OR FICTION. NOT TO DISCREDIT BERNIE, OR DISCREDIT BLM.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Can't wait for the usual suspects on DU to come along and express their outrage over this obvious nonsense.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)Because everything written on Facebook is true.
If you are going to post this, at least link it.
So now, Sanders supporters are biting people?
Someone needs some serious mental health counseling.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)TBH, if this actually happened, it was likely someone planted in the crowd by the disrupters.
merrily
(45,251 posts)brush
(53,841 posts)Some serious corroboration needed on this.
Seems to be a "whole lot of crazy" going on around the latest protest in Seattle.
cali
(114,904 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Then it must be true!
Whoever this dummy is, she is going to have to wait 😴😴😴😴 a long time for this mf to be outraged about something she pulled out of her ass.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)or anyplace other than the OPers imagination, or pulled out of OPers ass (if there's a difference)
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Still waiting for the official blm to disown the latest Bernie disruption.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...it's true, I read it on facebook.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)The person making the accusation doesn't claim to have been bitten or to have seen it happen. They're passing around an unsubstantiated and inflammatory rumor.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I'll even post about it on facebook so everyone can know it's true.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)so you post an anonymous, unlinked and obviously unhinged pile of bs accusations.
Can you spell B A S E L E S S?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)But I thought it better to protect her from personal notoriety, while exposing the kind of rhetoric that is driving some anger. She is a known person in the Seattle BLM community, a young woman.
Obviously it is not true that Bernie supporters are calling AAs the n word, or biting them, or whatever else. If anyone doubts the respect that Bernie supporters have for BLM, they may watch the video from last night's event in Portland.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)by posting that kind of insanity on facebook. However angry somebody is, why would they be making up such ridiculous stories?
I don't do facebook. I do hope her facebook "friends" take the time to view the videos to see the "biting" and "name-calling" for themselves. Maybe one or another of them will call her on it.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Remember the backwards "B"? For some people, no low is too low.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)hehe
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)If they were not amateurs they would have known that they did not disrupt a Sander's event. They disrupted an event that Sander's was invited to speak at. They also would have known that the people who attended were not exclusively Sander's supporters.
Since you seem to be in close contact with them, perhaps you could enlighten them to the fact that there were republicans, conservatives and racists in the audience and they can not assume that they were attacked (if in fact they were) by Sanders supporters?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)A family member is, and I happened to see the posts because of that connection.
What I am worrying about now is their potential liability if they have misidentified an unknown person as the alleged biter, showing a photo of this person as such. I'm not sure these young women understand their risk.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and you're worried about their liability? Why? If they're going to go around making false accusations then they should be called on it.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)You should have been there - it was incredible!
merrily
(45,251 posts)if the sexy one plans on coming back? Just curious
artislife
(9,497 posts)There are more dog owners than parents in Seattle and perhaps we run a little canine in our exchanges.....
matt819
(10,749 posts)Rant over.
merrily
(45,251 posts)you use the emoticon.
matt819
(10,749 posts)I gotta put a post-it note on my monitor telling me to remember the emoticon.
merrily
(45,251 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)What the Gray Panthers showed up and went after the youngins with their dentures?!?!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Hit and run. Serious accusation about Sanders supporters with no link and no corroboration. this doesn't rise beyond the level of a nasty rumor intended to hurt Sanders.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:37 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Posting an unsubstantiated rumor is ridiculous but this is so over-the-top, I think pointing it out is better.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I usually vote to leave, however this one is just posting some unfounded claim from MyFace, keep it on your wall or whatever the heck is on that trash.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This is just too silly to be real. It's probably satire being posted as something serious.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A quick DU search suggests grasswire is a supporter of Sanders. grasswire not accusing anyone of anything. He or she simply copied and pasted a tweet and asked a question.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The Accusation in the OP is silly, so much so that I have to wonder if the OP is seriously putting it out there for consideration, or ridicule. Either way, I dont think it is a TOS violation.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I've been around DU long enough to know that grasswire doesn't write so-called "hit and run" posts. "This doesn't rise beyond the level of a nasty rumor intended to hurt Sanders?" No, sorry, alerter...that's YOUR opinion. A question was asked. It's clear that you didn't LIKE the question, but that doesn't mean that you're "right" about grasswire.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Actually it doesn't even make BLM look bad.
But it makes whoever posted it to Facebook look really bad.
I'm embarrassed for anyone who would be stupid enough to post that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)To show that some real crazy accusations are being made in order to attack Bernie -- accusations that are not reality based on first look.
Now, I might believe that Donald Trump would bite protesters. But Trump is the enemy of those who seek justice and good governance.
No one rooted in reality will believe that Bernie or his supporters would do any of the things she claimed they did.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)I totally get why you posted it.
I was referring to the brain dead fool that posted that crap on FB in the first place.
I apologize for not making myself clear.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....and I was just expanding on your comment.
mythology
(9,527 posts)This is just silly. I get that Sanders has had trouble making inroads with minority voters, but his supporters aren't biting people based based on this allegation.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)It was a lot of oldsters, like me, wanting to hear about strengthening Medicare and Social Security.
We maybe have no chance of changing our race, but we all got a good chance at getting older.
A lot of oldsters with false teeth, not biting anyone.
QC
(26,371 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)It's a wonder those people still have all their arms and legs!!!
merrily
(45,251 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Hmmmm.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)OMG! Palm fangs!!!!
merrily
(45,251 posts)thread gave me several. Enjoy the day.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)want to come into contact with black people . . . let alone bite them? You can't have it both ways. You really ought to post the idiot's name so she can be called out for the baloney she's spewing.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Bernie's Zombie Horde attacks black people!!!!! The bite is back!
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)I don't even know where to begin with that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am not sure who that man is, but an arrest for assault would have been perfectly legal.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)I'm not saying the crowd didn't have cause to be angry since they were there to see Bernie.
There has been back and forth here about whether people were angry about being called "white supremacist liberals" or whether the crowd anger escalated the situation and the women should have been given the space to speak (all the stuff about the Palin backpack is after-the-fact - while they were on stage, as far as anyone knew, they represented #BLM). Sounds like a two-way vicious dynamic.
In my own humble opinion, Bernie should actually be engaging with this movement and integrating it with his program. But random people shouldn't be disrupting and seizing the stage - especially since he doesn't have the money to build his campaign any other way and Hillary hasn't been getting the same treatment. GOP operators could easily pretend to be #BLM and simply undermine Bernie's campaign this way. Everyone should be able to see by the reaction on the DU that Hillary's campaign would get the blame whether she is responsible or not. Therefore, these random disruptions can't go on.
However, Bernie can choose to embrace the #BLM cause and invite it in. I hope he does.
I wish people on DU would dial back their reaction to the "disruption" - ESPECIALLY the "white supremacist liberals" accusation. All it takes is a little googling to find that is a common way the experience of oppression is being described. It behooves us to come to grips with that instead of dismissing it as a "GOP meme" that some "operative" must be dropping in there. Above all, let's not prove the point!
cali
(114,904 posts)There were about ten speakers. It was.an event people had worked on for months. Secondly, the women were given the opportunity to speak, and refused to relinquish the stage after 20 minutes. Hostility engenders hostility. Before the crowd got hostile, these women screamed and shoved and threatened. Thirdly, Bernie has been engaging with BLM since NN. A lot.
I wish you'd informed yourself a bit before pontificating.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Do you hear yourself about hostility engendering hostility? And are you reading what I'm saying about not giving over the stage in the first place - especially since NN?
This is the second time you've replied to me seemingly without reading what I actually said. You're on the attack about this situation, I don't see how slapping down fellow Bernie supporters actually helps your cause.
My response to you was both civil and on point. Not an attack.by any stretch of the imagination. And if you realize that he's been engaging with BLM, why would you say you think it's something he should do? You don't seem to take someone disagreeing with you, however politely, over well.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)That's what I'm regarding as the attack.
I'm a Bernie supporter who thinks he should engage with #BLM. I do realize that he's already doing that and has been doing that since Netroots Nation. He was probably doing that before Netroots Nation. I was simply articulating my opinion that he should do that.
My comments here have been in regard to Progressives in general - to think about how we participate in the cycle of hostility. It is a dynamic. I absolutely agree that those two woman shouldn't have disrupted Bernie's event, and I'm frankly not sure how Bernie could have handled it any way other than he did once this did happen.
My "pontificating", as you call it, is on our collective outrage at being termed "white supremacists liberals" - and how that can actually be found throughout #BLM writings online. Instead of suppressing fellow DU forumers like Bravenak who try to convey that line of thought to us, we should perhaps be thinking about how that line of thought is being generated. IMHO, the cycle of hostility is partially being generated from the pushing of the phrase "All Lives Matter". I realize Bernie didn't say that - I've been informed he didn't even say that in the "trap NPR interview" (good for Bernie!) - and he continues to be unfairly targeted by #BLM despite that. But, we, his supporters DO continually use that phrase. At least in the area where I'm from. I constantly have to combat it and educate on it. Sorry if you feel that this is "pontificating", but I feel this is an area where we do have to do some self-criticizing and improve our own behavior if we don't want to see the backlash.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...sorry, I just could not resist.
It is, however, a bit weird to post such an allegation without a link. Furthermore, it seems there would have been reports in the news if such a thing had actually happened. If someone bit me at a public event I would not hesitate to make a police report and/or alert the media. Since no one has apparently done either of those things, my BS-o-meter is hovering at about 99.99%.
romanic
(2,841 posts)JS.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)The Seattle story just gets weirder!
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)And it's utterly contemptible to post it, whatever the reason
frylock
(34,825 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)from social media alone I been saying NW BLM has been cooking infants in pots and fighting lycanthropes and benandanti at night but I found out today that not only did they unleash their Brown Jenkins, not only did they say shit like the un-sealed don't matter, not only did they go after any farmer or herder they saw yesterday & talk shit, but they were also out there taking babies from the PICU and sacrificing them on the altars. Yes altars.
I'm waiting for yall mfs to be outraged about that. I'll wait
but there is a bigger problem with Sanders opponents, and it's their attitude that the Sanderson Sisters didn't deserve it
LynnTheDem
(21,368 posts)BITE me!
LOL!