2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo Exactly What DOES Happen When Cantor's Bill To Repeal Passes
on July 11th? What happens to the health care bill then?
Gman
(24,780 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,254 posts)I thought I read that the Democratic-controlled senate will certainly not vote to repeal.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)Even if both houses voted to repeal, the president has the power to veto that bill, and what are the chances he would do that? Pretty good, I think. Then they would have to pass it again by 2/3 majorities in both houses to override the veto, which would not happen.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)The Senate will get presented with the bill, but the Senate leadership can do what they want afterwards - send the bill to a committee, send it to the floor for a vote, sit on it...
Reid will see to it that the bill is quietly killed.
SoFlaJet
(7,767 posts)It'll be another weeks' worth of wasting the taxpayers' money on bullshit anti-Obama showmanship. And this is the party that 'claims' to be so concerned with the debt-oh yea, that's right-only when democrats are in control. When it's the republic party in control "debts don't matter" Dick Cheney
business as usual for the most ineffectual and dogmatic congress in decades.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,897 posts)The teabaggers in the House putting on a show for the knuckledraggers back home.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,897 posts)It will die a swift death in the Senate.
madashelltoo
(1,703 posts)they should have been stoked for the past two years, and ready to set the world on fire. That is all the Repigs have been doing. Sending up smoke signals to the faithful and and the fruity by announcing one idiotic vote after another. Talk about playing with people's minds for your own gains. Personally, I'm sick of watching Cantor's snotty ass droll on about nothing. I am the child of southerners and I love to hear them speak, but this bastard makes me want to do bad things to him because he's singing and grinning and lying to people and lining his pocket with cash. Forgive me, if I'm wrong. Just don't think I am.
madamesilverspurs
(15,810 posts)on how much it cost taxpayers to "keep the lights on" in the capitol during such theatricals. We should be trumpeting those numbers in the face of the party that claims to own fiscal responsibility; while we're at it, let's do the same for the Issa "hearings" and the vote against Holder.
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Proud Liberal Dem
(24,446 posts)should call for a vote on President Obama's jobs bill, making the contrast between the Republicans' quixotic political theater over health care reform and President Obama and the Democrats' desire to do something meaningful like help put people back to work. The Republicans won't do it, of course, but at least it will help make the contrast between the two parties stick in voters' minds.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It will never make it to Pres. Obama's desk, and even if it did, he would veto it.
Cantor's repeal is nothing but a publicity stunt designed to throw some bloody meat at the teabaggers.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)cause a budget bill crisis, offer to negotiate a trade for cuts in the social safety net, and finally agree to a continuing resolution. If there is a lame-duck session, it will get nothing done. The FY13 budget will not be approved until the new Congress begins serious work after the President takes office in January.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)SDjack
(1,448 posts)The Budget agreement is dead. Here is where we are:
On June 20, 2012, The Full House Appropriations Committee approved the FY2013 Financial Services Appropriation Bill.
Press Release: [link:http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204|]
Bill: [link:http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204|]
Some Quotes From the Press Release:
"The bill does not provide the nearly one billion dollars of requested increases for the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). In addition, the bill prohibits the IRS from receiving transfers from the Department of Health and Human Services to implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act."
"The Committee recommends an appropriation of $5,299,367,000 for Enforcement, which is the same as fiscal year 2012 and $402,303,000 less than the request. Of the funds provided, the Committee recommends not less than $60,257,000 to support IRS activities under the Interagency Crime and Drug Enforcement program. None of the funds requested for implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are provided."
"The Committee recommends an appropriation of $3,947,416,000 for Operations Support, which is the same as fiscal year 2012 and $528,784,000 less than the request. Of the funds provided, not less than $2,000,000 is for the IRS Oversight Board and $25,000 is for official reception and representation expenses. None of the funds requested for implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are provided."
WHAT DOES THE HOUSE WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY TAKEN FROM PP ACA?
Express delivery by reconciliation process to the Pentagon:
[link:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77755.html|]
NEXT STEPS
-- House passes the Financial Services Approp. Bill for FY-2013
-- Senate passes it bill
-- House and Senate negotiate a bill
-- House and Senate pass
-- President signs/vetoes
My prediction: The President will not get this Congressional Appropriations Act until after January, 2013. And, if Obama is president, he may veto it.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)Press Release: http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204
Bill: http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204
Pentagon ready to snag the PPACA money: www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77755.html
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)This is grandstanding. The Senate won't touch it, nor would the president sign such legislation.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)Then all the Republicans will make TV ads paid for by Super Pacs telling how they tried to save America.
Redford
(373 posts)They will use it against Democratic H of R candidates. "Look, they are raising your taxes again"
demwing
(16,916 posts)It goes to the Senate.
The Senate Majority leader can bring it up for a vote, send it to committee, or just let it sit around gathering dust.
If it gets a vote in the Senate (it won't) and if it wins (it won't) then eventually it goes to the President's desk where he can sign it (he won't) veto it, or let it sit around gathering dust.
There are MANY more details than those, but you get the picture - as others have said "Nothing Happens."
Republicans lost it. The only way they get it back is by winning the White House and both houses of Congress.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)They are going to be sorely disappointed when it turns out that Americans are sick and tired of their grandstanding bullshit.
The bill will 1) never be brought up in the Senate and 2) never be signed by the President.
It is a monumental waste of time mistakenly calculated to score political points at the expense of the GOP House doing something - anything - about jobs.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)quaker bill
(8,225 posts)I believe that is the current accurate count of repeal bills passed by congress. They are apparently voting on one every few weeks.
elleng
(131,193 posts)It goes to the Senate where it will fail, and if it passes the Senate? Its VETOED!
Turbineguy
(37,374 posts)to waste taxpayer money and time. They have sworn to to Grover Norquist.
"We were only following orders!"
DinahMoeHum
(21,812 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)It is designed to force Dem reps in red districts to break from the party.
aquart
(69,014 posts)It's a meaningless pander.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)#1 Congressional filibuster.
#2 Senate majority.
#3 Presidential veto.
The republicans can cry all they want, they have no means of repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act at this time.
trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)SoFlaJet
(7,767 posts)what will happen when it passes the House of reps (which no doubt, it will) and got the answer 23 times already
Arkana
(24,347 posts)and Cantor gets to bemoan those evil lieberals who won't let him take away health insurance from millions of Americans a bloo bloo bloo.