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So Exactly What DOES Happen When Cantor's Bill To Repeal Passes (Original Post) SoFlaJet Jun 2012 OP
Nothing Gman Jun 2012 #1
Yep, another big waste of time and money while the economy dies. The Wielding Truth Jun 2012 #15
doesn't the Senate have to vote on it too? riverbendviewgal Jun 2012 #2
That's true dragonlady Jun 2012 #7
Actually, the Senate doesn't. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #11
So in other words SoFlaJet Jun 2012 #3
Yup sharp_stick Jun 2012 #5
Exactly right. It's nothing but theatre. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #6
Nothing. It's a symbolic gesture to stir up the teabag base. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #4
If fruitless votes really stirred the teapotty madashelltoo Jun 2012 #8
A while back there was information madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #9
I think that President Obama and the Dems in Congress Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #12
It goes to the Senate where Harry Reid has it quietly tabled. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #10
The KamikazeThugs will not authorize funding for key parts of ObamaCare, SDjack Jun 2012 #13
A budget agreement for fiscal years 2012 and 2013 was agreed to back in 2011, see below Tx4obama Jun 2012 #23
Opps. I used the incorrect word "authorize". The correct word is "appropriate". Next, SDjack Jun 2012 #25
I did not get the links to go through. Here they are in plain text. SDjack Jun 2012 #30
Not a damn thing. It's just whining. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #14
Please refer to Civics 101. Nothing happens, because the House cannot act on its own. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #16
FOX will tell how Cantor and the Republicans are trying to save freedom SoutherDem Jun 2012 #17
It will be fuel for the TEA party in November Redford Jun 2012 #18
If the bill passes the House (it will) demwing Jun 2012 #19
Well the Mayan calendar did perdict it.... whistler162 Jun 2012 #20
Um, nothing...Cantor and his GOP cronies think they can use Dem "no" votes in new ads alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #21
If The House passes the repeal bill it then it goes over to The Senate and dies there. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #22
nothing, and for the 14th time, nothing quaker bill Jun 2012 #24
Nothing. elleng Jun 2012 #26
It's the GOP's sworn duty Turbineguy Jun 2012 #27
Zilch. It's nothing but political Kabuki theater. DinahMoeHum Jun 2012 #28
About the same as the Holder contempt vote. dogman Jun 2012 #29
Please. It's just something to do instead of job creation. aquart Jun 2012 #31
We have 3 lines of defense. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #32
you think is will pass ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA trueblue2007 Jul 2012 #33
I asked thequestion SoFlaJet Jul 2012 #34
It dies a quick death in the Senate Arkana Jul 2012 #35

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)
2. doesn't the Senate have to vote on it too?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jun 2012

I thought I read that the Democratic-controlled senate will certainly not vote to repeal.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
7. That's true
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jun 2012

Even if both houses voted to repeal, the president has the power to veto that bill, and what are the chances he would do that? Pretty good, I think. Then they would have to pass it again by 2/3 majorities in both houses to override the veto, which would not happen.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Actually, the Senate doesn't.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jun 2012

The Senate will get presented with the bill, but the Senate leadership can do what they want afterwards - send the bill to a committee, send it to the floor for a vote, sit on it...

Reid will see to it that the bill is quietly killed.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
3. So in other words
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jun 2012

It'll be another weeks' worth of wasting the taxpayers' money on bullshit anti-Obama showmanship. And this is the party that 'claims' to be so concerned with the debt-oh yea, that's right-only when democrats are in control. When it's the republic party in control "debts don't matter" Dick Cheney

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,897 posts)
6. Exactly right. It's nothing but theatre.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jun 2012

The teabaggers in the House putting on a show for the knuckledraggers back home.

madashelltoo

(1,703 posts)
8. If fruitless votes really stirred the teapotty
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

they should have been stoked for the past two years, and ready to set the world on fire. That is all the Repigs have been doing. Sending up smoke signals to the faithful and and the fruity by announcing one idiotic vote after another. Talk about playing with people's minds for your own gains. Personally, I'm sick of watching Cantor's snotty ass droll on about nothing. I am the child of southerners and I love to hear them speak, but this bastard makes me want to do bad things to him because he's singing and grinning and lying to people and lining his pocket with cash. Forgive me, if I'm wrong. Just don't think I am.

madamesilverspurs

(15,810 posts)
9. A while back there was information
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jun 2012

on how much it cost taxpayers to "keep the lights on" in the capitol during such theatricals. We should be trumpeting those numbers in the face of the party that claims to own fiscal responsibility; while we're at it, let's do the same for the Issa "hearings" and the vote against Holder.


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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
12. I think that President Obama and the Dems in Congress
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

should call for a vote on President Obama's jobs bill, making the contrast between the Republicans' quixotic political theater over health care reform and President Obama and the Democrats' desire to do something meaningful like help put people back to work. The Republicans won't do it, of course, but at least it will help make the contrast between the two parties stick in voters' minds.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
10. It goes to the Senate where Harry Reid has it quietly tabled.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jun 2012

It will never make it to Pres. Obama's desk, and even if it did, he would veto it.

Cantor's repeal is nothing but a publicity stunt designed to throw some bloody meat at the teabaggers.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
13. The KamikazeThugs will not authorize funding for key parts of ObamaCare,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:13 AM
Jun 2012

cause a budget bill crisis, offer to negotiate a trade for cuts in the social safety net, and finally agree to a continuing resolution. If there is a lame-duck session, it will get nothing done. The FY13 budget will not be approved until the new Congress begins serious work after the President takes office in January.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
23. A budget agreement for fiscal years 2012 and 2013 was agreed to back in 2011, see below
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jun 2012


See the first TWO links in this OP here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1100506


SDjack

(1,448 posts)
25. Opps. I used the incorrect word "authorize". The correct word is "appropriate". Next,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:22 PM
Jun 2012

The Budget agreement is dead. Here is where we are:

On June 20, 2012, The Full House Appropriations Committee approved the FY2013 Financial Services Appropriation Bill.
Press Release: [link:http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204|]
Bill: [link:http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=300204|]

Some Quotes From the Press Release:

"The bill does not provide the nearly one billion dollars of requested increases for the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). In addition, the bill prohibits the IRS from receiving transfers from the Department of Health and Human Services to implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act."

"The Committee recommends an appropriation of $5,299,367,000 for Enforcement, which is the same as fiscal year 2012 and $402,303,000 less than the request. Of the funds provided, the Committee recommends not less than $60,257,000 to support IRS activities under the Interagency Crime and Drug Enforcement program. None of the funds requested for implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are provided."

"The Committee recommends an appropriation of $3,947,416,000 for Operations Support, which is the same as fiscal year 2012 and $528,784,000 less than the request. Of the funds provided, not less than $2,000,000 is for the IRS Oversight Board and $25,000 is for official reception and representation expenses. None of the funds requested for implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are provided."

WHAT DOES THE HOUSE WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY TAKEN FROM PP ACA?
Express delivery by reconciliation process to the Pentagon:
[link:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77755.html|]

NEXT STEPS

-- House passes the Financial Services Approp. Bill for FY-2013
-- Senate passes it bill
-- House and Senate negotiate a bill
-- House and Senate pass
-- President signs/vetoes

My prediction: The President will not get this Congressional Appropriations Act until after January, 2013. And, if Obama is president, he may veto it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
16. Please refer to Civics 101. Nothing happens, because the House cannot act on its own.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jun 2012

This is grandstanding. The Senate won't touch it, nor would the president sign such legislation.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
17. FOX will tell how Cantor and the Republicans are trying to save freedom
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jun 2012

Then all the Republicans will make TV ads paid for by Super Pacs telling how they tried to save America.

Redford

(373 posts)
18. It will be fuel for the TEA party in November
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:26 PM
Jun 2012

They will use it against Democratic H of R candidates. "Look, they are raising your taxes again"

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
19. If the bill passes the House (it will)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jun 2012

It goes to the Senate.

The Senate Majority leader can bring it up for a vote, send it to committee, or just let it sit around gathering dust.

If it gets a vote in the Senate (it won't) and if it wins (it won't) then eventually it goes to the President's desk where he can sign it (he won't) veto it, or let it sit around gathering dust.

There are MANY more details than those, but you get the picture - as others have said "Nothing Happens."

Republicans lost it. The only way they get it back is by winning the White House and both houses of Congress.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. Um, nothing...Cantor and his GOP cronies think they can use Dem "no" votes in new ads
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jun 2012

They are going to be sorely disappointed when it turns out that Americans are sick and tired of their grandstanding bullshit.

The bill will 1) never be brought up in the Senate and 2) never be signed by the President.

It is a monumental waste of time mistakenly calculated to score political points at the expense of the GOP House doing something - anything - about jobs.

quaker bill

(8,225 posts)
24. nothing, and for the 14th time, nothing
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

I believe that is the current accurate count of repeal bills passed by congress. They are apparently voting on one every few weeks.

Turbineguy

(37,374 posts)
27. It's the GOP's sworn duty
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
Jun 2012

to waste taxpayer money and time. They have sworn to to Grover Norquist.

"We were only following orders!"

dogman

(6,073 posts)
29. About the same as the Holder contempt vote.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jun 2012

It is designed to force Dem reps in red districts to break from the party.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
32. We have 3 lines of defense.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 03:53 AM
Jul 2012

#1 Congressional filibuster.
#2 Senate majority.
#3 Presidential veto.

The republicans can cry all they want, they have no means of repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act at this time.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
34. I asked thequestion
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

what will happen when it passes the House of reps (which no doubt, it will) and got the answer 23 times already

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
35. It dies a quick death in the Senate
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jul 2012

and Cantor gets to bemoan those evil lieberals who won't let him take away health insurance from millions of Americans a bloo bloo bloo.

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