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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:47 PM Aug 2015

Dean pollster: The typical Sanders voter is a Volvo-driving, financially comfortable white liberal

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“The Bernie Sanders voter is still a Volvo-driving, financially comfortable liberal who is pretty much white,” Paul Maslin, a pollster who worked on Democratic contender Howard Dean’s 2004 presidential campaign, told Ms. Haq. “I don’t see how Bernie takes large numbers of black voters away from Hillary Clinton, and he needs to if he wants any shot at the nomination.”

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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2015/0817/Bernie-Sanders-on-race-Did-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-force-his-hand

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Dean pollster: The typical Sanders voter is a Volvo-driving, financially comfortable white liberal (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 OP
Oh, do you remember that - white, latte-drinking, VW driving limousine liberal? Picking Dem Aug 2015 #1
Fancy Pants Elitists! cyberswede Aug 2015 #3
boy is he wrong. I drive an element with an Autobot sticker and roguevalley Aug 2015 #49
I have a 10 year old Kia artislife Aug 2015 #69
I can't afford a car! n/t tazkcmo Aug 2015 #91
... SidDithers Aug 2015 #81
I've got an old Endeavor PatrickforO Aug 2015 #96
Dont forget the arugula. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #125
Volvo-driving? Wilms Aug 2015 #2
No, they float JackInGreen Aug 2015 #8
HRC supporters are driven. Black Towncars. Picked up and taken home from their Wall St. offices. leveymg Aug 2015 #54
... KoKo Aug 2015 #85
I'm a Hillary supporter,I drive a union made Ford. sufrommich Aug 2015 #86
... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #84
No but their chauffeurs certainly drive. Autumn Aug 2015 #104
That's a lot of Volvos! Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #4
Hell, Sanders will never break 3% in the polls! MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #5
Wait'll I tell the girls we're stable now!! JackInGreen Aug 2015 #6
Gee, ya think? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #7
what is this supposed to mean? wendylaroux Aug 2015 #36
Offensive?? Those are actual numbers. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #38
still name recog roguevalley Aug 2015 #50
I means float a meme and it will work. mmonk Aug 2015 #61
Glad to see you're still around mmonk JackInGreen Aug 2015 #106
Sigh, more racially divisive rhetoric ram2008 Aug 2015 #9
If its not the white way Gman Aug 2015 #15
Way to put words in peoples mouths ram2008 Aug 2015 #16
"more racially divisive rhetoric" Gman Aug 2015 #25
This has nothing to do with issues ram2008 Aug 2015 #27
Well then never mind Gman Aug 2015 #30
Obama won black primary voters handily mythology Aug 2015 #28
He won them after he proved himself in Iowa and NH ram2008 Aug 2015 #31
He was winning about a third of them before he won Iowa and NH dsc Aug 2015 #33
Last poll has him at 15% ram2008 Aug 2015 #34
Yes, and not before. whathehell Aug 2015 #109
Yep. Dean is hitting rock bottom. He was once named as a potential nominee for President. Romulox Aug 2015 #48
This article has nothing to do with Howard Dean emulatorloo Aug 2015 #137
How is laying the fact that Bernie must (and can) connect with the Obama Coalition to win? oh... wai uponit7771 Aug 2015 #87
You're not serious are you? ram2008 Aug 2015 #103
... and a majority think he's a POSUCS. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #105
OFFS, "a majority" have never heard of Will Pitt or POSUCS. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #114
I guess I imagined the nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #10
It is like deja vu, all over again! heh nt artislife Aug 2015 #74
lol. you are a one note sort. cali Aug 2015 #11
The great and noble struggle of the 10% vs. the 1% marches on. BainsBane Aug 2015 #12
LMFAO!!! Avalux Aug 2015 #13
"These aren't the non-Volvo drivers and non-white people you are looking for" MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #23
... Avalux Aug 2015 #42
Those damnable socialist Swedes and their infernal contraptions! jberryhill Aug 2015 #14
There goes Dean's pollster,under the bus. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #17
I wish! Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #18
I don't see any actual data from the "pollster". winter is coming Aug 2015 #19
My wife is a White Marxist Liberal who drives a '91 Toyota. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #20
What a dumbass whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #21
I want my Volvo, a pony and personal rainbow... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2015 #22
good, its the truth and needs to be known ericson00 Aug 2015 #24
Only I know plenty of conservative Democrats RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #26
So, I wonder how long Howard Dean is being told to wait to replace DWC at the DNC? cascadiance Aug 2015 #29
Is there anyone left in the political/entertainment/civil rights crowd sufrommich Aug 2015 #32
But the email thing is just (R)s out to get her. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #40
The author of the article you posted is a Rand Paul supporter: Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #35
Where's my Volvo? What a lame & old stereotype. Volvos were the 80s. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #37
All the Bernie stickers I have seen so far on not on Volvos Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #39
I have seen one Hillary sticker A Little Weird Aug 2015 #73
You don't say! Hydra Aug 2015 #108
Sorry, I drive a 14-year-old Ford Ranger. Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #41
I have an 04 F150 under my carport awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #88
11 year old subaru restorefreedom Aug 2015 #43
Mine's about to turn 12, and I drink chai. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #115
i used to be a deaniac. hrmph. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #117
Me, too. But I think that was mostly fueled over the horror... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #118
yeah for me too on the war restorefreedom Aug 2015 #131
This is how Republicans operate: divide and conquer. senz Aug 2015 #44
I bet they wear Birkenstocks too! hootinholler Aug 2015 #45
I wear awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #89
Damned good boots hootinholler Aug 2015 #132
I spent years buying cheap boots awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #134
So where do we sign up to receive our Volvos? jeff47 Aug 2015 #46
They've come a long way awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #90
I want a Volvo... PatrickforO Aug 2015 #97
How? Hillary 2008 racist campaign. n/t ieoeja Aug 2015 #47
Bottom of the barrel mudslinging from a formerly respected national figure. Embarrassing. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #51
Aren't we all supposed to be driving Priuses now? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #52
Why do so many Bernie supporters get so defensive? Frances Aug 2015 #53
Punching from the right, and using race divisiveness as a fist. It's the Clinton Method. arcane1 Aug 2015 #55
I'm not financially comfortable, and I don't drive John Poet Aug 2015 #56
THWACK!! Number23 Aug 2015 #57
Why is this guy not on Bernie's campaign yet? Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #119
Im going to share this with all the Sanders supporters I know. bunnies Aug 2015 #58
So was Paul Maslin just in it for the money in 2004 when he worked for former Vermont Governor Dean? last1standing Aug 2015 #59
Oh! Oh dear. Well that will change my support for him. Matariki Aug 2015 #60
Of course not MaggieD Aug 2015 #63
Those criticims could apply just as well to every other candidate running for the Democratic primary Matariki Aug 2015 #64
That's simply not true MaggieD Aug 2015 #65
Give it a break lady. These tactics are cheap and transparent. Matariki Aug 2015 #66
What "tactics" are those? MaggieD Aug 2015 #67
Are you including her racist dog whistles in 08? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #72
And the "Barack Hussein Obama" crap that started with her supporters. Ikonoklast Aug 2015 #136
Bernie's been talking about those issues a lot longer than Hillary Autumn Aug 2015 #101
latina here artislife Aug 2015 #71
Well, vote how you want. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #98
Yep, or a young politically naive kid who wants free college MaggieD Aug 2015 #62
Survived a jury 6-1. William769 Aug 2015 #68
Nope, they don't but it is all coming out now. leftofcool Aug 2015 #127
I drive a Ford ibegurpard Aug 2015 #70
Funny because all the middle class artislife Aug 2015 #75
I'll bet they all claim to support unions too. sufrommich Aug 2015 #77
I think it is because of these artislife Aug 2015 #83
Suburu is the new Volvo awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #92
Did you look at the first photo. artislife Aug 2015 #94
The pics didn't show on my phone awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #112
I call bullshit dorkzilla Aug 2015 #76
Your parents awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #93
indeed dorkzilla Aug 2015 #110
Guess I gotta trade my truck in for a Volvo...now about that whole being White thing... KeepItReal Aug 2015 #78
This is Paul Maslin...... ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2015 #79
Well thank fucking Yeezus I'm not typical. I drive a 43 year old Chevy. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #80
Sorry awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #82
Geez. I never dreamed I was a LIMO LIBERAL! PatrickforO Aug 2015 #95
Well, I'm a white liberal. Is that a bad thing now? cyberswede Aug 2015 #99
Not at all Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #100
I'm sure BS's campaign is working on that. cyberswede Aug 2015 #102
I guess that makes me atypical then. NowSam Aug 2015 #107
F150 here. Scuba Aug 2015 #111
Are there any Volvo driving Sanders supporters? Mnpaul Aug 2015 #113
There was no polling done TSIAS Aug 2015 #116
The "Volvo Driving" meme came from a "Club for growth" commercial attacking Howard Dean AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #120
Inherited 2000 Lesabre Lancero Aug 2015 #121
I drive a straight shift Mustang build in Dearborne, Michigan Fawke Em Aug 2015 #122
There is a guy with a Volvo in my neighborhood Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #123
Where's my damn Volvo? John Poet Aug 2015 #124
I do not own a car. I make less than 20,000 a year, and I am not 100 percent white. CBGLuthier Aug 2015 #126
Volvo!? What, were all the Priuses sold out? Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #128
This polling is amusing Gothmog Aug 2015 #129
Tell that to the poor college Kids fredamae Aug 2015 #130
I had a boss, back in the 80s, who drove a Volvo. LWolf Aug 2015 #133
Honda Fit... WillyT Aug 2015 #135
The local "Pretty Much White People for Bernie" had a rally here yesterday. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2015 #138
Advice from Paul Maslin to Bernie Sanders: Spirochete Aug 2015 #139
Chuckle for early am riversedge Aug 2015 #140

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
49. boy is he wrong. I drive an element with an Autobot sticker and
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:09 PM
Aug 2015

am barely keeping above water. what an ass hat

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
69. I have a 10 year old Kia
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

that my mechanic says must go. It has well over 166,000 on it. I just put in a new starter, new head gasket and timing belt in these last 8 months....I am looking to barely make rent by the 5th.

Isn't it funny, because when you see photos of supporters out with the candidates in candid shots, the volvos and better seem to be parked outside the lunches with another.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
96. I've got an old Endeavor
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

I DO like latte, but cannot afford it most of the time.

I am white though...they got me on that!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
54. HRC supporters are driven. Black Towncars. Picked up and taken home from their Wall St. offices.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:23 PM
Aug 2015

Every one of them in Lower Manhattan, twice a day.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. Hell, Sanders will never break 3% in the polls!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Aug 2015

Your posts are cute, more evidence of the fantastic progress Bernie and the 99% are making.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
9. Sigh, more racially divisive rhetoric
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

Not sure where it's coming from but there seems to be a concerted effort...

The typical sanders supporter is white as of now, just as it was for Obama... That doesn't mean Bernie's message is somehow inferior or that PoC will never vote for him. It simply means they are unfamiliar with him.

He doesn't see how Bernie takes larger numbers of black voters away from Clinton? It's simple, continue spreading his message and fighting for every vote. Right now Clinton has a name ID advantage.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
16. Way to put words in peoples mouths
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:31 PM
Aug 2015

Who said anything about the "white way?" I don't even know what you're talking about.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
25. "more racially divisive rhetoric"
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:02 PM
Aug 2015

You may not understand that that's what statements like the above translate too. IOW, just be quiet about race. It's divisive when you bring up Black and other POC issues. It assumes POC are with you and if they are, they shouldn't say anything about their own issues.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
27. This has nothing to do with issues
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:08 PM
Aug 2015

It's an opinion piece stereotyping Bernie supporters as white volvo drivers and then also falsely stating that it doesn't seem likely Bernie can expand his circle beyond that.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
28. Obama won black primary voters handily
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:08 PM
Aug 2015

Without changing the demographics of his supporters, Sanders doesn't have a viable path to the nomination.

It's not anymore racially divisive to say that than it is to say Republicans have have a problem given their increasing failures at attracting the Hispanic vote.

If all Sanders needs is to be better known, why hasn't his minority support been going up as he's becoming better known?

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
31. He won them after he proved himself in Iowa and NH
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:13 PM
Aug 2015

Obama expanded his coalition after his victory in Iowa, virtual tie in NH and then SC victory. Before that black voters were supporting Hillary. Go back and look at the polls, they're similar to what you see now.

Only 1/3 of blacks even know about Bernie, not sure what the numbers are for Hispanics. Also his minority support has been going up, previously his support was only around 3% with blacks, the last poll has him at 15%.

dsc

(52,164 posts)
33. He was winning about a third of them before he won Iowa and NH
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:24 PM
Aug 2015

Sanders is at well less than 1 in 20.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
34. Last poll has him at 15%
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

5 months out from the first primary. Also, I believe Sanders is doing better with the white Vote than Obama was doing at this time.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
48. Yep. Dean is hitting rock bottom. He was once named as a potential nominee for President.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:09 PM
Aug 2015

Now look at him.

emulatorloo

(44,133 posts)
137. This article has nothing to do with Howard Dean
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:01 PM
Aug 2015

It is about a guy who worked for Dean's campaign in '04. ten years ago.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
87. How is laying the fact that Bernie must (and can) connect with the Obama Coalition to win? oh... wai
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:17 PM
Aug 2015

... Berniacs hate Obama...

Quandry

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
103. You're not serious are you?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:58 PM
Aug 2015

The majority of Bernie supporters were O supporters in 08 and 12. We certainly weren't Clinton supporters, lol.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. I guess I imagined the
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

kids from the local hood. a couple weeks back in San Diego...

I am starting to smell a pattern here, and not a nice pattern. Oh and they were saying the same about that kid from Chicago I really am having a problem remembering what happened to that challenger back in 2008.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
13. LMFAO!!!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

I would like Mr. Dean Pollster to visit a Bernie event in my area, and say that to the incredibly diverse crowd of all colors, ages and political ideology. The movement is growing, no matter how much the insider faithful continue to deny it.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
18. I wish!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

I drive a 1990 beater pick-up that is on it's last legs and I live below the poverty line. Which I why I plan on voting for Bernie.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
19. I don't see any actual data from the "pollster".
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

It's just some guy, shooting his mouth off. I suspect a quick check of the parking lot at one of Bernie's big rallies is unlikely to turn up a sea of Volvos.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
22. I want my Volvo, a pony and personal rainbow...
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:53 PM
Aug 2015

RIGHT NOW!



Keep up with da memes, and tell me how it works out for ya.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
24. good, its the truth and needs to be known
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

tho I couldn't help but think of this ad (I like Dean now, but the ad is still funny):

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
26. Only I know plenty of conservative Democrats
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:07 PM
Aug 2015

who drive old rusty pickup trucks and barely make ends meet that want Bernie.

Personally, I guess that I am one of the elite. Though I don't drive a Volvo, and probably never will, by choice, I do have a rather secure civil service job, with a stable pension. I don't make a lot of money, but enough to get by and have a little to save.
Oh, and I would rather drive my Prius than any damn Volvo any day!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
29. So, I wonder how long Howard Dean is being told to wait to replace DWC at the DNC?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Aug 2015

as payback for endorsement and articles like these?

Perhaps he's being told to let DWS stay in up until the primaries start so that he won't be blamed for the lack of debates before then!

Bernie a liberal problem? There are other points of views out there too besides the more corporate and right of center media outlets (I don't think the Christian Science Monitor is very "liberal&quot

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/hillary-clinton-has-a-white-liberal-problem-that-will-help-bernie-sanders_b_7910526.html

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
32. Is there anyone left in the political/entertainment/civil rights crowd
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:21 PM
Aug 2015

that's not getting paid to A.Make Hillary look good or B.Make Bernie look bad? You guys sure are a conspiratorial group.


Also,H.A. Goodman is a hack who supported Rand Paul before he became a political ad writer for Bernie Sanders.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
39. All the Bernie stickers I have seen so far on not on Volvos
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

or anything that would suggest that the driver is "financially comfortable".



I haven't seen any Hillary stickers yet, but maybe that is just me.



Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
41. Sorry, I drive a 14-year-old Ford Ranger.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015

And we are a one-vehicle family. No Volvos in our carport. (Don't even have an elitist garage.)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
43. 11 year old subaru
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:51 PM
Aug 2015

parked in front of a very small house. and i don't drink latte

more bullshit to try and turn people off to bernie.

hey, kids, it's not working.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
115. Mine's about to turn 12, and I drink chai.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:04 PM
Aug 2015

So take that *that*, Dean pollster! I do have a nice home, and I won't apologize for that. I worked hard for it.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
118. Me, too. But I think that was mostly fueled over the horror...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:54 AM
Aug 2015

known as the Iraq War. I do remember his "nuts on he left, nuts on the right, and me in the middle" quote (or something to that effect), so I wasn't under any illusion that he was some sort of flaming librul. But he had many ideas I agreed with. Hrmph, indeed.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
131. yeah for me too on the war
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 08:38 AM
Aug 2015

he was speaking out when a lot of others were dancing to the fiddle. i respected that.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. This is how Republicans operate: divide and conquer.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

Those who have nothing to offer always fall back on the tried-and-true.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
134. I spent years buying cheap boots
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

Then, one day, decided to drop $250 on a pair of Wings. I got the 606, which is American made and can be re-soled. Best money I ever spent.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
46. So where do we sign up to receive our Volvos?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

I'm not particularly fond of them, but I could use a new car.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
53. Why do so many Bernie supporters get so defensive?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

Why don't Bernie supporters say they will get the word out about Bernie's racial policies and win those minority voters over?

Attacking is not nearly as successful as confidently working for a candidate and extolling his/her good points.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
55. Punching from the right, and using race divisiveness as a fist. It's the Clinton Method.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:25 PM
Aug 2015

Howard knows where his priorities are, I'll give him that. Too bad.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
56. I'm not financially comfortable, and I don't drive
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:04 PM
Aug 2015

a Volvo. Hell, I'm barely financially alive, maybe financially in a coma...

I am white. Can't help it, I was born that way.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
57. THWACK!!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015


Plus I want to post this here, there and everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=75&v=6PU0rPx7vQ0

This video is so perfect it's crazy. He even mentions Janet's "What Have you Done for Me Lately."
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
58. Im going to share this with all the Sanders supporters I know.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:11 PM
Aug 2015

Just so they can laugh as hard as I did. Apparently we're all getting raises and Volvos! Sweet!

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
59. So was Paul Maslin just in it for the money in 2004 when he worked for former Vermont Governor Dean?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:13 PM
Aug 2015

Or has he only recently sold out?

Those are the only two possible options when you think about it.

Either way, I'm less than impressed.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
60. Oh! Oh dear. Well that will change my support for him.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:15 PM
Aug 2015

This is just so obvious - these insinuations that Sander's supporters are racist 'white liberal elites' and therefore Sanders must be racist, so therefore supporting Sanders makes you racist.

Obvious bullshit is obvious.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
63. Of course not
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

Because who cares if Bernie understands the issue of institutional racism? It's not like PoC have ever been able to count of white elitist liberals to care about their issues before. It's always the PoC that are supposed to be there for the white liberals - get in line, ect, not the other way around. Right?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
64. Those criticims could apply just as well to every other candidate running for the Democratic primary
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

which is why your overly repeated 'criticism' of Sanders in this regard is disingenuous and obvious.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
65. That's simply not true
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:16 PM
Aug 2015

HRC has been talking about these issues for decades, which is why POC support her so widely.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
67. What "tactics" are those?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:20 PM
Aug 2015

Disagreeing with a Bernie supporter? Recognizing that POC don't appear to support him, but her instead? Please be specific about what "tactics" you are referring to. TIA.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
136. And the "Barack Hussein Obama" crap that started with her supporters.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:41 AM
Aug 2015

Hillary Clinton supporters *started* the "birther" movement.


"Hard working people...White people..."

- Hillary Clinton trying to distinguish her supporters from Barack Obama's.


That dog whistle could be heard over hurricane force winds.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
71. latina here
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:40 PM
Aug 2015

I wish white people wouldn't use minorities to bash other white people.

We are Human not a talking point.


Thank you in advance.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
98. Well, vote how you want.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

I'll go ahead and keep supporting Bernie.

And we can respect one another's differences...

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
62. Yep, or a young politically naive kid who wants free college
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:30 PM
Aug 2015

And actually believe Bernie is going to make that happen. Pity them.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
75. Funny because all the middle class
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
Aug 2015

white progressives I know drive Suburu Outbacks...might be all the hills, though.



I would love to have one...but don't.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
92. Suburu is the new Volvo
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:28 PM
Aug 2015

Seriously, if I ever live in a place with snow, an all wheel drive Outback is what I'll drive.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
94. Did you look at the first photo.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

I was once snowed in for 13 days because I couldn't get down my hill. I ate green beans, corn tortillas and protein shakes. I called it the snow diet.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
76. I call bullshit
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:49 PM
Aug 2015

No one drives Volvos these days. They’re made in China now and they suck even more than they did when the Swedes made them.

Signed,
A woman who grew up stranded on the side of the road as a child because both parents drove Volvos (and a Peugeot).

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
110. indeed
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:32 PM
Aug 2015

Funny story; one night we were sitting in the living room and heard a car. Naturally we thought it was my father come home from work. I looked out of the window and saw nothing but still we could hear very distinctly a car running. We lived on a small farm and our nearest neighbor wasnt close enough so that we could hear any of their cars. Curious to discover where the noise was coming from, mom and I ventured outside and walked toward the driveway and the sound grew louder.

It was HER Volvo, which had magically and to this day inexplicably started itself without a key. Several mechanics were left absolutely baffled. She had to get another key cut and had to leave it in the ignition in the off position-if she took the key out it would alsays start again minutes later.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
78. Guess I gotta trade my truck in for a Volvo...now about that whole being White thing...
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:51 PM
Aug 2015

Go the Michael Jackson route?



Hey pollster, FOH!

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
79. This is Paul Maslin......
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 07:54 PM
Aug 2015



I'm guessing he doesn't know shit about how this mixed race, american truck driving, manual labor working guy is going to vote.


Nice try Paul.



P.S. He advised both Gore and Dean. Not exactly a winning record.
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
80. Well thank fucking Yeezus I'm not typical. I drive a 43 year old Chevy.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:02 PM
Aug 2015

I'm Cherokee (with documentation). I'm voting for Bernie Sanders six times in four different Presidential Primaries.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
100. Not at all
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:52 PM
Aug 2015

The pollster is simply describing the kind of people supporting Bernie Sanders at the moment.....he says they're mostly financially comfortable white liberals. He doesn't say that being a white liberal is bad.

But he does point out that Bernie will need to broaden his base if he wants the nomination.

All of this is accurate.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
102. I'm sure BS's campaign is working on that.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:55 PM
Aug 2015

I truly believe thiere's a false "schism" being fomented. Both Hillary and Bernie (and O'Malley, for that matter), will be good allies for POC.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
113. Are there any Volvo driving Sanders supporters?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:45 PM
Aug 2015

Inquiring minds want to know. Not a whole lot of them copping to Volvo ownership in this thread. Maybe someone should do polling at the next Bernie event.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
116. There was no polling done
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:10 PM
Aug 2015

It's just this gentleman's opinion. I drive Hyundai and am certainly not comfortable financially.

I ask Hillary supporters this. What type of car is it suitable to drive? Note that I'm not financially well off enough to afford a Lexus or Ferrari?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
122. I drive a straight shift Mustang build in Dearborne, Michigan
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:54 AM
Aug 2015

I'm white, female, middle class and think Volvos are ugly as shit.

Get down with your bad self.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
123. There is a guy with a Volvo in my neighborhood
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:08 AM
Aug 2015

It's way too long for its parking space, and about 2 feet of the butt end are always sticking out into the street.

As far as being "financially comfortable" goes, if having just enough to cover all the monthly expenses is "financially comfortable", then I might qualify.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
126. I do not own a car. I make less than 20,000 a year, and I am not 100 percent white.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:16 AM
Aug 2015

This idiot could not be more wrong if he made an effort to be more wrong. So what position does this clown hold in the Clinton campaign?

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
130. Tell that to the poor college Kids
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 08:38 AM
Aug 2015

and poor Seniors who are the driving force behind Sanders....hahahahahahaha

Nice try.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
133. I had a boss, back in the 80s, who drove a Volvo.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

It was 15 years old at the time I worked for her. For the record, she was white, female, liberal, and a lesbian, and one of the best bosses I've ever had.

Me, and mine? I'm driving a 10 yo vehicle that cost 23K brand new, and expect to drive it at least another decade. I can't afford to fix the plumbing or the roof.

I don't come from a "financially comfortable" background, and wouldn't really know what to do with all that "comfort." I fear retirement.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
138. The local "Pretty Much White People for Bernie" had a rally here yesterday.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

It was a godawful mess, what with all the Volvos clogging the streets and empty latte cups and wine cooler bottles scattered everywhere.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
139. Advice from Paul Maslin to Bernie Sanders:
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

"Just make sure, when you get to the primaries, to scream like a banshee right off the bat. they won't be expecting that..."

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