I want Bernie to address institutional racism in schools.

Good for Bernie. Good for DeRay. I hope they have a great chat.

Bernie is an expansive thinker.

Good things.

Thanks, Uncle Joe.

and anyone who thought or posted that he would not do this does not know much about Senator Sanders or had another agenda.

Not a single one of us here who is being honest should be surprised.

This will be very good for BLM, those working with them and those they work for. In turn it will be good for Senator Sanders and for this country.

great way to continue a discussion.

right back to flinging shit.

good to know that are now also arrogant.




IMHO this has not been good for DU and will not be good for Dems and the majority of people.

HRC has been on this issue for decades. He is very much a Johnny come lately on this issue.

Bernie was on this issue when Hillary was still a Goldwater girl.

In her decades of talking about this?

especially stunned at her miserable and seriously bizarre attempt at pretending to be Black in Mississippi and Alabama back 2008 for that run. bizarre. if that's considered authentically being "on issue" well then there's a problem right there.

It won't take long IMHO.

But at least you're honest about it.

Never alerted on that one so stop your baseless accusations.

partiality is showing.

Look at the thread I started on why I don't support Sanders and the personal attacks one has to endure here simply for having and opinion about a specific candidate. Not to mention the ridiculous alert stalking of people critical of him.

But it's fine. They are helping him lose. They just don't realize it. But my point remains - he is way too late to this issue. It is one of the key issues of our time, and he should not have needed to be prodded so much before he addressed it, IMO.

but were hoping for.

Bernie cut his political teeth in 1961 on civil rights issues, he was a chapter leader at the University of Chicago in the Congress of Racial Equality, the civil rights group that organized the Freedom Rides, he helped to launch a sit-in at the University of Chicago President's Office over housing discrimination in the university owned apartment buildings.
No, he isn't late to the issues, he was way early.

they not be killed in the streets.

Sanders, if that is his tweet and he doesn't disavow it, is doing the mature thing. Maybe his supporters will follow suit. I hope so.

What does that mean?

Sanders is reaching out, he is setting a good example.

Will his supporters follow?

He didn't get to speak and they didn't get to hear him.

Good on the senator for taking the high road.

I support the goals of BLM despite what's-her-name, not because of her.

him. Don't blame those young woman--blame the crabby guy at the end of the tape who took the podium and shut the event down.

Thing is, no one would be talking about #BLM if not for Marissa Johnson. That's her name, not what's-her-name.

people can stop trying to be so devisive and let them address the actual problems without these backhanded comments. But I doubt it .

I say what I mean and I mean what I say--and I meant every word of that.

smh.

This is what I'm talking about.

in the streets.

IMHO most of the push-back on DU has come since the idea that old, white liberals just needed to get out of the way and die. The racial card was planted on DU over a year, as far as I can recall.

I would say, except for a few agitators, that most members on DU support the ideas behind BLM. The idea is not questioned, but sometimes the delivery and focus are questioned.

Old, white liberals do not take kindly to being told to shut up, as one poster who is now on time out posted a few weeks ago.

are what really matters.

Posts about "those blacks" would be hidden. But you feel free to dump on white people, white men, old white liberals. You ought to elevate your game out of the gutter.

The person who introduced that "white liberal" phrase into this conversation was a Sanders supporter.

Post number 8 introduces "arrogant old white men" which spawned the "white liberals meme" discussion.

Or are we going to be pedantic.

They're not necessarily interchangeable. The GOP is full of arrogant old white men, and none of them, I'll wager, are white liberals.

when the candidates had not even announced.

Many people from a certain group jumped in with support.

If we are thinking of the same person they also told a Sanders supporter to basically shut the F up a few weeks ago. But many Clinton supporters jumped right in to defend her posts and the posts to 'bring her back' had many recommendations.

All this divide is extremely counterproductive, but I'm sure the Repubs love it!!!

a way to join for a common cause ... wanting old, white liberals to die.

Racial divide was not good then and it is not good now, but you can keep up the divide if you like, that will not help the most people.

"Don't you know he's your best hope?" along with the whole "But ... but ... MLK!!!!!!" thing (to which I have to note, you know who else marched with MLK? Charlton Heston--who decided, before he died, that guns were more important than people).

He's stepping up, and that's good. I hope his supporters will follow him.

but I do believe he is our best hope, he has been fighting for the same causes for decades.

I think to understand the push-back on DU that is coming against certain actions (not movements) people really should look back at what was has been posted on DU for well over a year. This was before, I believe, that the BLM movement was formed.

IMHO I never thought anything good would come about by those on DU who began the idea that old, white liberals just needed to go away. People can find those threads on their own, just google some variety of words on GD or maybe even look in my journal as I think I saved a thread at that time.

Also I never thought dividing people by age was a good idea many years ago when the Dems spoke of Social Security and how there were only a couple of workers for each retiree. I know Obama said this, but he and the Dems in general, failed to mention the trillions borrowed from the SS Trust Fund. Loans were made from the Trust fund under both Repub and Dem administrations. What if the general budget paid back the Trust Fund with some tweaks?

A couple of weeks ago a certain poster, who is now on time out, told another DU'er that they just needed to listen and say nothing, that is all they needed to do. Basically shut the F up.

When something is not right we need to question. Just like I will continue to questions why BLM matter tweeted they "planned" to disrupt a Clinton rally in NH a couple of hours in advance and then showed up too late to be admitted.

We all need to work for a common cause regardless of race, age, gender. But that does not mean we should try to silence others and not question or speak out when we feel something is wrong.

her concerns were less important than this greater goal--because Sanders supporters said so.

No one wants to hear. There's not going to be any talking to people who don't want to acknowledge that what is happening to black citizens qualifies as a state of emergency.

Black lives matter, except when they get in the way of certain candidates, I'm starting to think.

Repeating the meme that "Clinton is in on it" is just so unhelpful, yet there you are, doing it.....

to just shut up and listen helps? There will be no questioning, just shut up!!!

As I said the posts against old, white liberals began well over a year ago before any current candidate had announced. No need to put a candidate's name to those ideas. Did you skip over those comments before going right to defending a candidate?

These are larger issues than any candidate and once again the divides along racial divides were started well over a year ago.

I do not want to continue to divide by race, age or gender. But I will not remain silent when something does not sound right, such as broadcasting to a media outlet and then a tweet by BLM Boston that there was a PLANNED protest for Hillary's event.

Did they think that being a former First Lady she might have a security detail, so making sure you were there extra early if you really wanted to Surprise the campaign would be prudent?

I never said Hillary Clinton was in on it, but she has tons of staff monitoring the internet and a security team. They better know what others have planned for her visit to a certain location, that is there job.

obvious pain.

The thing is, no 'listening' was happening at all. Every attempt to explain was met by "Yes, but."

And it's sad, but true, that some people STILL don't get it.

And continuing on with that whole "Clinton conspiracy theory" stuff tells me that you STILL don't get it.

There can be no productive exchange here. I will say that you might not realize it, but you are harming your favored candidate's chances more than you realize with your continued anger at and "conspiracy theory Clinton Collusion" speculation with regard to #BLM. I would hope that one of your own would take the time to spell it out for you, and explain to you that that line of attack is just astoundingly obtuse.

It has the opposite effect that you're seeking.

But I doubt that will stop them from trying to make it a wedge issue. Props to BLM for a better way of interacting too- Marissa's actions were unnecessary if they were looking for a venue for policy pushing. Many of us offered.

A little bit of a spirit of reconciliation, or at least tolerance, would go a long way here.

Way to go, Senator Sanders!

”.@BernieSanders, the first draft of your racial justice platform has promise. When will you be available to discuss enhancements w/ folks?,” McKesson tweeted this morning.

Sanders responded: “@deray Let’s do it. We will PM you this week to arrange.”

I believe we are going to get much more than just conversation. A coalition perhaps?

Sounds good to me.