Worth repeating over and over

As others have said, her inauthentic head bobbing intending to signal (like coached) that she was listening, was actually a sign of quite the opposite. ('Yes, yes, yes, okay, talk talk and then I'll say what I am planning. Hurry it up...')

She followed it up with her petulant and dismissive victim-blaming "If THAT'S your attitude, I'll just talk to White people!" --(I was like, 'No fucking WAY. She didn't just say THAT, did she? Holy hell!'')

Then the coup de grace was he filibuster of the last minute of the meeting with he blasting out a tone-deaf stream of political gobbledygook.

Oh, I forgot the part where she told BLM that the were doing it wrong... that it needed to be packaged and commodified in order to "sell it".

It was a puke-worthy performance.

Imagine the "outrage" had Bernie said something like that

It's IMPOSSIBLE to miss.

And I have to say, it is filled with rich, delicious irony and gooey, creamy hypocrisy.

clinton.

the reason there was such a mess is sanders people turned ugly on blm.

see the difference?

pretty damn obvious and yet still.... you guys ust do not seem to get it.

maybe we can talk

and how pathetic, even unsettling it is to see the effort.

of this. Nothing at all.

And are not outraged the way some Sanders supporters keep demanding that we be. But only after they've distorted what happened and what was said.

As if everyone needs to rely on certain people's interpretations of what happened instead of their own eyes and ears.

They said it was a good dialogue that moved the conversation forward. So you know know better then they, what they should think about it?

How ironic, given your post.

because it totally encapsulates her campaign so perfectly. She is rolling out product. NEW! IMPROVED! 15% more liberal.

"Somebody could freeze right to the bone. I froze to the bone. New York Times said it was the coldest winter in 17 years. I didn't feel so cold then. "

I suspect this is incorrect.

SoS has a lot of tough talks with a lot of people ... there just isn't video of it.

... you're full of shit.

It seems the Bernie supporters will lie about anything when it comes to Hillary.

stands with blm.

their issue was, they ATTACKED blm, and it got ugly.

they want the same ugly

cant happen when we are all in it supporting blm.

should actually care about,is it hearts and minds or legislative action?You could call yourselves Concerned White Guys For BLM.

HRC had an obligation to not talk down to BLM.

what they need to be outraged about. They know what they want from the candidates and they are capable of deciding for themselves what is condescending and what isn't.If they think Clinton is being condescending,we'll hear it from them.

And you know it.

demanding the same discontent that sanders received.

they do not learn.

By the way, we are not running for office so why don't you leave the personal attacks where they belong before you get a hide?

Try to control yourself so you don't continue to do it.

Here's a quick way to remember.

Me posting about a political candidate on a political discussion board = OK.

You responding by telling me I am a paternalistic white man talking down to black people = personal and attack, therefore personal attack.

Not so hard, is it?

to call the OP paternalistic. If you think that's a personal attack,alert.I'll take the hide if it comes.Since when are observations of paternalism,sexism,racism,etc.,verboten on DU?

If that's your thing, so be it. But let's be honest anyway, ok?

Once again, for the hard of hearing.

I am posting about a candidate.

You are posting about ME.

See anything wrong with this picture? I do.

And they don't like being called out on this nonsense.

I know I'm not supposed to tell them what to do - it pisses them off - but if they would only vote they might get the change they want. Hillary was right . . . you can't change the heart of Bubba the racist police chief. But you can pack the city council with members and fire his ass.

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A great idea. Why didn't they think of that? Might have something to do with:

Gerrymandering
Voter ID laws that create a de facto poll tax or otherwise erect barriers to voting
Purge lists that remove people from the voting rolls because of a partial match to someone in another state and disproportionately affect black voters
Voter caging
Inadequate polling places and voting machines in black neighborhoods
Dirty tricks, such as robocalls with incorrect information about voting times and places
Busing in white suburbanites to intimidate black voters
The rolling back of expanded voting times and same-day registration

And, of course, the fact that a substantial portion of the black population are either in jail or former felons and ineligible to vote.

I'm sorry there are obstacles. Life sucks. But using all the reasons why you "can't" vote as an excuse not to won't get you anywhere. Gerrymandering, by the way, affects us all. As do many of the dirty tricks. I would think it might be more beneficial to put energy into helping people register to vote and then making sure they get to the polls than confronting people like Hillary, who, if elected, still has Republicans to contend with before getting anything done. Vote. Win. Call the shots.

It's easy to tell a single mother working two minimum wags jobs that she should move heaven and earth to be able to vote -- but the obstacles are a lot more formidable than that.

Being a disenfranchised felon is not something you can reverse in many states.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/felon-voting-laws-disenfranchise-sentencing-project_n_1665860.html

Here's a Politifact article on the disproportionate effect of voter ID laws on blacks which notes that "In a December 2011 report, the NAACP mentioned the 25-percent figure from the 2006 survey, going on to say that factors in individuals not having IDs may include the cost of getting a photo ID (because minorities are over-represented in the poor population) or a lack of the documents needed to apply for the photo ID, such as birth certificates (not issued to many African Americans born before the Civil Rights Act passed), which also can cost money to obtain."
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2012/jul/11/eric-holder/eric-holder-says-recent-studies-show-25-percent-af/

Here's an article on how "the campaign manager for 2010 Republican gubernatorial candidate, and former Maryland governor, Robert Ehrlich was tried and found guilty of election fraud based on an attempt to suppress the African-American vote by authorizing the use of misleading robocalls."
http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2011/12/blackvoter_suppression_misleading_robocalls_is_an_example.html

Here's a lengthy article about True the Vote intimidating minority voters and challenging their credentials. (Not coincidentally, True the Vote was also centrally involved in the phony IRS scandal.)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/true-vote-intimidating-minority-voters-polls/story?id=17618823

Here's a description of voter caging, which became particularly notorious during the Bush US Attorney scandal.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/voting/f/voter_caging.htm

Here's something on the 2000 Florida voter list purge, which primarily affected black voters by matching their names to those on felon lists from other states and which may have handed Bush the election.
http://www.salon.com/2000/12/04/voter_file/

Some of these tactics are less common now, since they came to light in earlier elections. Others are still very much active. True the Vote has already announced its intention to challenge Hispanic voters with claims that they are not citizens. And gerrymandering unfortunately was embraced by the black community itself at a time when getting one safe seat for a black Democrat seemed like an acceptable tradeoff for guaranteeing three seats to white Republicans.

The estimates of votes lost as a result reach into the hundreds of thousands at a minimum.
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/10/three_ways_the_gop_has_disenfranchised_voters/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/voter-id-laws-minorities_n_1878893.html

You have 3 choices: the status quo, empowerment or victimhood. Your choice.

Apparently all private meetings between oppositional forces must go perfectly swimmingly.....or it is all a ruse.....GOT IT!

One of her responses was "tell me."

So no, it does not seem like you "got it."

Their message is legit, but without some organization and a solid legislative agenda it will Peter out. Like Occupy they will leave some raised consciousness in their wake, but they could do so much more. She gave them good and true advice.

Directionless anger does nothing but make people tune out.

The DU OWS forum is nearing 90 days without a single post. That should tell us something.
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