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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:30 PM Aug 2015

O'Malley has just proposed the most pro-family policy in US history

Seriously. You want family values? O'Malley does too.

He has just proposed an amendment to Social Security that would give people doing child or elder care up to five years of SS credits in calculating their retirement benefits.

This is, seriously, the most pro-family proposal I have heard from anyone.

This is exactly the kind of new ideas we need. I'm proud to say I'm a pro-family O'Malley supporter today.

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O'Malley has just proposed the most pro-family policy in US history (Original Post) Recursion Aug 2015 OP
Just read the full statement off his website MacManji Aug 2015 #1
I really think this campaign has staying power Recursion Aug 2015 #2
just a feel and not a logical one a that, but i do too. seabeyond Aug 2015 #16
I have family members who have given up years in taking care of Peacetrain Aug 2015 #3
I agree Andy823 Aug 2015 #4
My Dad had Altzheimers.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #8
That's a great point; thanks for saying that Recursion Aug 2015 #5
It really is service that should be recognized.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #9
I would much rather have a Prez who is for expanding SS. But, I think candidates need to Hoyt Aug 2015 #6
Great idea. Won't happen. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #7
As many people know I took care of my severely disabled daugter for jwirr Aug 2015 #10
k&R hedgehog Aug 2015 #11
K&R. n/t FSogol Aug 2015 #12
Kick nt Andy823 Aug 2015 #13
Back to the top. nt Andy823 Aug 2015 #14
Good idea. Kick. n/t FSogol Aug 2015 #15
bummer. i could have really used that. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #17

MacManji

(4 posts)
1. Just read the full statement off his website
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

I have to say the more I hear about Gov. O'Malley, the more I like.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. I really think this campaign has staying power
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
Aug 2015

It's early yet. I've known O'Malley since I was a kid in Baltimore; I am convinced that once the country meets him this can really catch fire.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
3. I have family members who have given up years in taking care of
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:58 PM
Aug 2015

relatives with Alzheimers and other disabilities.. this would be so great.. This is why I support this man so much.. his thinking outside of the box for the greater good!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. I agree
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:05 PM
Aug 2015

My wife and I spent 13 years taking care of her mom after she had he first stroke. She had another two years later, and numerous smaller ones. For 9 of those years we could not leave her along so some had to be home all the time to keep an eye on her. It was very hard for my wife all those years and has taken a real toll her. My mother in law passed away back in the fall of 2013.

O'Malley is the only candidate that actually is coming up with plans in writing telling us how he is going to accomplish his goals, and that for me puts him on the top of the list. He is taking the issues head on and covering all the bases.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
8. My Dad had Altzheimers..
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:25 PM
Aug 2015

so I have seen the issues of constant care up close and personal.. and for the caregiver staying at home for extended years to care for loved ones.. and some caregivers like yourself and your wife.. end up losing much need SS benefits when it is your time to retire.. Sorry for your loss...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. That's a great point; thanks for saying that
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:31 PM
Aug 2015

Those shouldn't be considered "lost" years, but rather years of service.

And, yes, I agree: O'Malley has exactly the kind of outside-of-the-box thinkingoke this we need.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
9. It really is service that should be recognized..
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015

Its the hardest job on earth.. no doubt about it.. long term care..

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I would much rather have a Prez who is for expanding SS. But, I think candidates need to
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

be truthful and explicitly state it will be a tough fight, and that expanding the cap does not totally solve the problem because benefits for those paying more go up too.

I definitely like the 5 years credit for elder care. Personally, I would love to get more in my SS check in a few years, but only if it doesn't adversely affect the younger people who are working to pay our SS.

In any event, it's tough to realistically see SS expansion until the jobs situation is improved.

I think an easier sell and something that has been done before -- with the Medicare tax -- is having those earning over the cap pay a percent or two no matter how much their income. Those paying more in Medicare taxes aren't getting more benefits, but it's helping pay for others. Also, some kind of earmarked tax on capital gains and investment income makes sense. But, it too is a hard sell with our Congress.

The reason I'm hesitant to say, heck yeah, make those who make over the cap continue paying the roughly 12% FICA tax -- while getting nothing in return -- is that I think that is a big tax increase that will negative impact the economy. And we need tax increases in other areas to fund other things too, like education, welfare, food stamps, health care, etc.

But, I'll give O'Malley credit for talking about new ideas, even if delivering is questionable. It certainly will make me listen a closer to him.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. Great idea. Won't happen.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015
As Sanders recently said, "...no matter who is elected to be president, that person will not be able to address the enormous problems facing the working families of our country.

They will not be able to suceed becuase the power of corporate America, the power of Wall Street, the power of campaign donors is so great that no president alone can stand up to them.

That is the truth. People may be uncomfortable about hearing it, but that is the reality. And that is why what this campaign is about is saying loudly and clearly: It is not just about electing Bernie Sanders for president, it is about creating a grassroots political movement in this country."

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. As many people know I took care of my severely disabled daugter for
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

45 years while we lived on welfare to do it. Not one day of that was considered real work. Nor was it credited to social security. So today I live in poverty. Let me be clear - I would do it all over again for her.

Today she lives in a foster home and they get $3000 a month for doing what I did for a welfare check. At the time I tried to get someone in government to see what this meant for my future to have no social security credits. I would have been very satisfied with those 5 years social security credits. But they could not see how that could be done. I was the woman's mother so I should take care of her. That was the attitude.

I would like to thank Martin O'Malley for this. This recognizes the value of a family care provider.

I hope his action will influence Bernie to stand for the same. Nothing will help me anymore but there are others out there like me.

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