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Stop trying to make Biden happen. (Original Post) ibegurpard Aug 2015 OP
Biden is happening Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #1
democracy is bad nt msongs Aug 2015 #2
That's so fetch... ibegurpard Aug 2015 #8
What won't happen? Shrek Aug 2015 #3
I think your beef is with Biden. morningfog Aug 2015 #4
Fully agree philosslayer Aug 2015 #5
Bullshit. Splinter Cell Aug 2015 #56
They talk about this Joe Biden as if he fell out of the sky... LettuceSea Aug 2015 #6
People should be at liberty to push their primary dreams... HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #7
I agree nt artislife Aug 2015 #18
Agreed, MuseRider Aug 2015 #29
Meh Quackers Aug 2015 #9
I'm not trying anything. Biden is happening all on his own. Zen Democrat Aug 2015 #10
shut up! ibegurpard Aug 2015 #12
I don't know from where Biden thinks his support will come. Maedhros Aug 2015 #11
He'll get some of the "not-Clinton" vote from Sanders. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #40
don't bet on it. magical thyme Aug 2015 #47
Don't forget the Clarence Thomas hearings BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #58
perhaps but I really doubt it ibegurpard Aug 2015 #48
OMG! BooScout Aug 2015 #13
we probably agree on a lot ibegurpard Aug 2015 #27
It is and it is because the administration has given him the green light. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #14
There are more Hillary shoes to drop. morningfog Aug 2015 #15
Exactamundo! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #16
Yes. 840high Aug 2015 #52
Pure BS speculation. Metric System Aug 2015 #17
Really? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #20
And the White House told you that? murielm99 Aug 2015 #22
If your house is talking to you... immediately seek help short circuit Aug 2015 #32
White House spokesperson pretty much said it today n/t ram2008 Aug 2015 #45
Hilarious! OilemFirchen Aug 2015 #37
Biden has every right to run if he chooses to run. That he is having meetings Autumn Aug 2015 #19
The intense marketing is making me dislike Joe. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #21
What intense marketing? Skidmore Aug 2015 #35
All the news and threads about Biden entering the race that signal the inevitable Zorra Aug 2015 #50
I'd say that there is a lot of speculation and chatter. Skidmore Aug 2015 #53
The media's rumor spreading makes Regina George look like a Nice Girl ericson00 Aug 2015 #23
Obama gives his blessing to a rumor? Autumn Aug 2015 #24
ever heard of "window dressing?" ericson00 Aug 2015 #31
It's not 'my' article Obama is very close to Biden . Obama is not playing games here Autumn Aug 2015 #42
You think WH would say no? Media would go into a frenzy. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #49
ha ibegurpard Aug 2015 #25
A week ago I would have agreed with you. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #26
Seriously now ibegurpard Aug 2015 #30
Fall-back? Chan790 Aug 2015 #33
He can run on the Obama legacy. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #44
two words olddots Aug 2015 #28
Whether Biden runs or not John Poet Aug 2015 #34
Said it before, I'll say it again: Joe B. is warming up in the bull pen. The manager hasn't come Romulox Aug 2015 #36
The "manager" in this analogy would be large donors? n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #39
Does Biden know that?... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #38
I hope so ibegurpard Aug 2015 #41
And yet Obama says selecting Biden as his VP was the smartest political decision he ever made Autumn Aug 2015 #43
maybe he was a good veep ibegurpard Aug 2015 #46
Media hype. moondust Aug 2015 #51
Yes, shut up davidpdx Aug 2015 #54
Au contraire, I want people to keep trying Catherina Aug 2015 #55
That's right, he won't pull from Bernie BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #59
Stop trying to shove Hillary down our throats. Splinter Cell Aug 2015 #57
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
5. Fully agree
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:32 PM
Aug 2015

Secretary Clinton is the overwhelming favorite among Democrats. The only possible purpose this could serve is to weaken her before the General Election. Its time to squash all this nonsense.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
6. They talk about this Joe Biden as if he fell out of the sky...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

Like, oh my goodness, where did it come from?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. People should be at liberty to push their primary dreams...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:34 PM
Aug 2015

even if the dreams seem like a long shot or a challenge to others.

If Biden wants it, I say let him try. If others want Biden to try, I say let them try to convince him.

This isn't a zero-sum game. There's about 80% of people who never participate in primary voting. More candidates might draw out new people, get them to feel committed to participatory democracy. That'd be good for everyone.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
9. Meh
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:43 PM
Aug 2015

If he wants to run, let him. The presidency is open to any qualified individual. It's up to the voters if he wins though.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
10. I'm not trying anything. Biden is happening all on his own.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:45 PM
Aug 2015

He's good enough
He's smart enough
And doggone it, people like him!

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
11. I don't know from where Biden thinks his support will come.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:48 PM
Aug 2015

He won't pull any from Sanders or O'Malley, maybe some from Clinton.

But I bet he'll get all the Webb and Chafee votes.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
47. don't bet on it.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:09 PM
Aug 2015

He voted for IW and he brought us the awful bankruptcy laws. He's in bed with the credit card companies. He'd be better than Hillary, but he's no Bernie Sanders.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
58. Don't forget the Clarence Thomas hearings
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

over which he presided, where Anita Hill was treated so badly.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
14. It is and it is because the administration has given him the green light.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 07:07 PM
Aug 2015

Why have they given him the green light? Because they know something WE DON'T! Can anyone figure it out? It's really simple.

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
22. And the White House told you that?
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 07:23 PM
Aug 2015

Personally?

I will have to listen to my own house more. Maybe it has something to say. Like, "Clean me."

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
19. Biden has every right to run if he chooses to run. That he is having meetings
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 07:17 PM
Aug 2015

with donors shows that he is thinking about it. If he want's it to happen it will, no one else is trying to make it happen.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
50. All the news and threads about Biden entering the race that signal the inevitable
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:09 PM
Aug 2015

demise of the Clinton campaign in the very near future.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
31. ever heard of "window dressing?"
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:16 PM
Aug 2015

its what people do to avoid making themselves look bad. What would it look like to Obama if he said "no my Veep shouldn't run for prez."

Also, who is this "senior Democrat" cited in your article? Why do all the Biden articles read so cryptically about their sources?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
42. It's not 'my' article Obama is very close to Biden . Obama is not playing games here
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

Obama believes that smartest decision he ever made in politics was selecting Biden to be his VP. That ought to tell you something and that a nasty crack was made about Hillary Earnest said nothing to defend her.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
26. A week ago I would have agreed with you.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015

I think that if he were not running his people would be squashing the rumors.

They seem to be encouraging them. Leaking the meeting with Sen. Warren is one clear example.


I am still not convinced, but I am far less skeptical than a week ago.




 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
33. Fall-back?
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Aug 2015

If he suspects/knows Hillary is going to take a coup d'grace, perhaps he thinks he can be a solid fall-back choice for a lot of Clintonites while being more electable because he doesn't carry the baggage of being anathema to the Hillary-hating faction of the base?

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
34. Whether Biden runs or not
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Aug 2015

won't be determined by anything being posted on DU...

You heard it here first!



Romulox

(25,960 posts)
36. Said it before, I'll say it again: Joe B. is warming up in the bull pen. The manager hasn't come
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:27 PM
Aug 2015

out to the mound, yet.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
41. I hope so
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

He brought nothing to the Obama ticket and I really don't understand what he thinks he brings on his own.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
43. And yet Obama says selecting Biden as his VP was the smartest political decision he ever made
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:45 PM
Aug 2015

in politics.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
46. maybe he was a good veep
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:00 PM
Aug 2015

But as far as a campaign help or hindrance? I do not see how he was either. It was all Obama.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
51. Media hype.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:36 PM
Aug 2015

One possible explanation/CT is that corpoworld is unhappy that Hillary alone along with corpomedia hasn't been enough to marginalize the popular socialist so maybe adding another big bank-friendly candidate will get the job done.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
55. Au contraire, I want people to keep trying
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 06:24 AM
Aug 2015

and I hope they succeed because it will only chip away at Hillary base even more.

99% of Sanders' supporters aren't budging because we're lined up on issues and helping banks, credit card companies isn't one of them.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
59. That's right, he won't pull from Bernie
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:55 PM
Aug 2015

Their ideas are not at all similar. Joe is another corporate Dem.

Splinter Cell

(703 posts)
57. Stop trying to shove Hillary down our throats.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:52 AM
Aug 2015

Mark my words, even if she wins the nomination, she'll lose in the general. We need to win in 2016. Hillary isn't the answer.

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