2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAre the United States ready to move beyond political gamesmanship,
and into political transformation? This seems to be the biggest question of the 2016 cycle.
Many people feel, as I do, that we don't have another 4 years left to play with before we start to turn away from the Wall Street/D.C. chimera that has brought us to this point. Bernie Sanders is making it clear that the bought legislative and executive branches, and by extension the judicial, must not be continued if we're to have representative government.
And yet the bought media, for their part, bring us nothing but the soap-opera machinations of established and establishment players. Polls, trial balloons, endorsements, groups of polls - they're all rolled out in a seamless product designed to make us think this is what the electoral process ought to be about.
My view is that the choice between Sen. Sanders and anybody else is this larger choice: Empire vs Human Community, to put it in rather dramatic terms. But that's how dire the situation is, and how crucial is this test.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Hydra
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The problem is that the establishment are deeply entrenched, and well funded. This isn't a matter of if we want them out or not- it's a question of what we are willing to do to kick them to the curb.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)lots of social media, and a message much clearer than "hope and change" might bring along enough marginally aware folks to keep it from being close enough to steal.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Thanks for the thread, Ron Green.
murielm99
(30,763 posts)I don't think we will see any progress. They make it into a game.
Citizens United plays a big role, too. Whoever becomes the nominee, they need to make that clear.
Get rid of Citizens United. Change the media, possibly through expansion of social networking. That is still evolving.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Rescued the economy from the brink of depression, ACA, Dodd Frank, gay marriage (facilitated by two liberal SC appointees), Iran and Cuba, clean energy and executive action on climate change.
His presidency will go down as the best at least since LBJ, and probably since FDR.
Sign me up for another one of those, please.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Geithner, Summers, et al. "Transformative" does not include guys like that.
Obama's been a successful President in many ways, and he's a good guy with a great family. But this time we need much more.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)he's got one foot in the status quo and one foot in truly transformational reform.
The next President can either take us to the next step in that direction, or backslide us.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)The political parties aren't. That's the disconnect between Washington and regular people.