Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
46 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Some good news for HRC fans ref email situation (Original Post) Persondem Aug 2015 OP
I believe that we already settled that there was no policy against her using private email. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #1
Then you are choosing to not be paying attention. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #3
Server in personal residence, and deleting tens of thousands of messages. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #8
You are on the wrong site, maybe....Fox is missing you. But I do see you have some company here, so Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #9
You should warn the newbies about posting in a protected Group.... Hekate Aug 2015 #21
I choose not. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #30
There sure are a bunch of them, aren't there? All things considered, I agree with you. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #44
Clinton Sanders wars? DU group wars? I don't think this is helpful. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #36
The full platform of the prohibitive Democratic Party candidate can wait until the actual versus the media campaign Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #38
This isn't a protected group.. frylock Aug 2015 #39
cut it out. your constant calling people out as right wingers is ugly. cali Aug 2015 #37
Anyone who advances this email nonsense MaggieD Aug 2015 #42
sorry it's a news story for several reasons. cali Aug 2015 #46
+1000 jkbRN Aug 2015 #10
Wrong. moobu2 Aug 2015 #18
Wrong, but you keep spouting those ring wing memes leftofcool Aug 2015 #26
Attack Sanders supporters, very classy, keep that up, maybe it will work someday. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #35
This was known weeks ago...which only reinforces how the real scandal is the allegstions of scandal Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #2
That's not the scandal jfern Aug 2015 #4
Except there wasnt seabeyond Aug 2015 #12
uh, no leftofcool Aug 2015 #27
No there wasn't MaggieD Aug 2015 #43
phew! glad that's behind us.. frylock Aug 2015 #5
I knew this, you knew this, we all knew this.... BooScout Aug 2015 #6
Yep. And some fools here will just keep chewing and chewing it over. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #22
Must get tiring chewing the same old worn out cud. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #32
I thought I read this months ago. kacekwl Aug 2015 #7
what a big suprise ericson00 Aug 2015 #11
Or a good percentage of duers seabeyond Aug 2015 #13
No shit. KMOD Aug 2015 #14
This socalled scandal is bogus Gothmog Aug 2015 #15
That's one minor point among several major ones madville Aug 2015 #16
Was her server ever hacked? The Pentagon was. A lot of government agencies were. We never hear.... Hekate Aug 2015 #24
Nope, Nate Silver has her beating everyone in 49 states. leftofcool Aug 2015 #28
More RW illogical nonsense.....the argument that Clinton give in to the smears because there aren Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #33
But, but she turn me into a newt... LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #17
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2015 #19
The good news doesn't matter if no one reports it Midnight Writer Aug 2015 #20
Reality consists of what we see? Give in to the lies because that is what folks see? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #34
I believe it will not help Hillary...... Pauldg47 Aug 2015 #23
......because oasis Aug 2015 #25
You don't even need to be a 'fan' of Clinton to have paid attention to this without prejudice. randome Aug 2015 #29
"don't even need to be a 'fan' of Clinton to have paid attention" correct. just honest. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #31
Has the FBI announced anything from their investigation yet? jalan48 Aug 2015 #40
Maybe if you wish really hard... randome Aug 2015 #41
“We wouldn’t be here today if this employee had followed government policy." AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #45
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
1. I believe that we already settled that there was no policy against her using private email.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015

I'm not sure I see the big news here.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
8. Server in personal residence, and deleting tens of thousands of messages.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:27 PM
Aug 2015

That's what takes it into a different arena.

Very negligent, doesn't have to be sinister or illegal for it to be a really bad thing to have done.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. You are on the wrong site, maybe....Fox is missing you. But I do see you have some company here, so
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:30 PM
Aug 2015

I withdraw that..you are on the right site!

For you folks still desperate to attack Hillary alongside the GOP because..reasons...read it and weep:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110716651

Hekate

(90,796 posts)
21. You should warn the newbies about posting in a protected Group....
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:48 AM
Aug 2015

Or not. It could be a valuable learning experience for them, right?

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
36. Clinton Sanders wars? DU group wars? I don't think this is helpful.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:17 AM
Aug 2015

Laughing emoticon or not, such behavior is unbecoming a progressive.

Let's say we just stick to the facts about the candidates:

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
38. The full platform of the prohibitive Democratic Party candidate can wait until the actual versus the media campaign
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

begins, this is August, 2015, isn't it?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
42. Anyone who advances this email nonsense
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:53 AM
Aug 2015

... Is joining in with the GOP to rally around another fake scandal. Period.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
18. Wrong.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:30 AM
Aug 2015

The State Department left it up to each person to decide which emails were work related and which ones weren't and that's what Hillary Clinton did. The entire story was nothing.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
35. Attack Sanders supporters, very classy, keep that up, maybe it will work someday.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:14 AM
Aug 2015

Worst defense of a candidate, ever. I support Senator Sanders.

While your preference has a long row to hoe before she will have anywhere near as much support on this site as he does.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
4. That's not the scandal
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:11 PM
Aug 2015

The scandal is that there was classified information stored on her e-mail server.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
43. No there wasn't
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

Sad to see factually incorrect right wing talking points repeated here. SMH.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
6. I knew this, you knew this, we all knew this....
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:16 PM
Aug 2015

But the press wanted to sell ad space, the RW smear machine wanted to milk it for what it was worth and the Anybody But Hillary crowd will gnaw on it until their dying day.

madville

(7,412 posts)
16. That's one minor point among several major ones
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:07 AM
Aug 2015

And this has been acknowledged for months.

State department policy about allowing private email is a minor point. It doesn't address the potential classified information sent and received on the server.

It doesn't address the FOIA and record keeping issues that have arisen, like why did it take two years for Hillary to turn her emails over to the state department and who actually reviewed all her deleted emails and determined that record keeping laws did not apply to them.

The real damage is in the public perception of the scandal. Hillary's honest and trustworthy polling numbers are down in the 30's now in crucial swing states, when Trump, Bush, and Rubio are beating her in general election polling in places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida it's getting real.

I think at this point the Republicans might want Hillsry to be the nominee, she's turning into the person they have the greatest likelyhood to beat.

Hekate

(90,796 posts)
24. Was her server ever hacked? The Pentagon was. A lot of government agencies were. We never hear....
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:57 AM
Aug 2015

.....a single word about her oh so infamous private server. Seems to have been secure.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
33. More RW illogical nonsense.....the argument that Clinton give in to the smears because there aren
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:49 AM
Aug 2015

just too many to swat away and public perception has already been shaped is defeatist nonsense and only a few buy that around DU...for obvious reasons.

Midnight Writer

(21,801 posts)
20. The good news doesn't matter if no one reports it
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:35 AM
Aug 2015

I am a news junkie, and this is the first I have seen of this.

But I do see endless stories on both conservative and liberal media of the "drip, drip, drip of scandal" surrounding the E-mail controversy.

Reality consists only of what we see.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
34. Reality consists of what we see? Give in to the lies because that is what folks see?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:50 AM
Aug 2015

Better work on that!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. You don't even need to be a 'fan' of Clinton to have paid attention to this without prejudice.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:09 AM
Aug 2015

This 'scandal' was never anything more than hot air.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
41. Maybe if you wish really hard...
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:49 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:24 PM - Edit history (1)


[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
45. “We wouldn’t be here today if this employee had followed government policy."
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 02:02 PM
Aug 2015
A federal judge has added fresh fuel to the incendiary controversy over Hillary Clinton’s email, asserting during a hearing Thursday that she violated government policy by storing official messages on a private server when she worked as secretary of state.

“We wouldn’t be here today if this employee had followed government policy,” said U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan, apparently referring to Clinton, during a hearing on one of the many Freedom of Information Act lawsuits seeking access to her records as secretary of state.

Sullivan’s said Clinton’s actions had complicated the State Department’s ability to respond to requests for records on various topics. He also ordered the State Department to contact the FBI to determine whether the private server Clinton used, which Clinton turned over to that law enforcement agency earlier this month, contains official records possibly responsive to the FOIA suit.

After Justice Department lawyer Peter Wechsler argued that the open records law normally doesn’t allow for searches of government officials’ private accounts, the judge said he viewed it as an unusual situation because“there was a violation of government policy.” “We’re not talking about a search of anyone’s random email,” Sullivan added."

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/judge-says-hillary-clintons-private-emails-violated-policy-121568.html
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Some good news for HRC fa...