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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:37 AM Aug 2015

Guess what, everyone? Hillary is running for president!!!!

Yes, really! Apparently some people are unaware, and have confusedly noticed her doing strange things like conducting polls, producing online campaign ads, and raising money.

And, look, I get it. If someone I knew started randomly polling people, asking for money, and making self-promotional videos, then sure, I'd think that was a little weird. And if I already hated that person like Taylor Swift hates Katy Perry, I might even take to the internet about it.

But in this case, it's not some kind of demonic ritual, it's just a presidential campaign.

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Guess what, everyone? Hillary is running for president!!!! (Original Post) DanTex Aug 2015 OP
Right. And I want to change that. I want to get rid of that whole raising money problem. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #1
That's an excellent long term goal. But you can't just wave a magic wand and make that problem go away. pnwmom Aug 2015 #2
But let's not pretend one gets their money from "pure" sources and the other doesn't. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #14
I'm not. I don't think it will be possible to beat the Rethugs without a huge war chest. pnwmom Aug 2015 #15
Sure, but... Garrett78 Aug 2015 #16
Let's see. People criticize the Dems for taking $5,000 donations, while two brothers pnwmom Aug 2015 #17
See what I mean? Garrett78 Aug 2015 #18
The Best Candidate JackInGreen Aug 2015 #3
The revolition? Is that . .. PosterChild Aug 2015 #6
I'd play it XD JackInGreen Aug 2015 #9
LOL @ "the revolution" Amimnoch Aug 2015 #12
Ahh JackInGreen Aug 2015 #20
I love this so much, thank you. nt betsuni Aug 2015 #4
Great post! leftofcool Aug 2015 #5
Heh! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #7
is this a post from 2007? Doctor_J Aug 2015 #8
If only Citizens United LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #10
Oh shock of shocks-she is conducting polls and raising money Gothmog Aug 2015 #11
We're whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #13
Taylor Swift hates Katy Perry? I thought they were bff's. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #19
It may be both a demonic ritual and a Presidential campaign. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #21
Better get your goat leggings! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #22

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. That's an excellent long term goal. But you can't just wave a magic wand and make that problem go away.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:34 AM
Aug 2015

Any Democrat who wants to be elected has to deal with that "whole raising money problem." Unlike the Rethug candidate, ours won't be relying on the Koch brothers and their 1 or 2 billion.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. But let's not pretend one gets their money from "pure" sources and the other doesn't.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

In fact, some of the largest "donors" give to both the Democratic and Republican candidates so as to hedge their bets.

For instance, here's a list of Obama's top donors in 2008: http://www.opensecrets.org/PRES08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638

Here's a list of McCain's top donors in 2008: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00006424

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
15. I'm not. I don't think it will be possible to beat the Rethugs without a huge war chest.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:06 PM
Aug 2015

So taking only Federal matching funds won't do it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. Sure, but...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

I was commenting on your Koch brothers comment, as if Democrats don't also get massive sums of money from despicable sources to whom they are then beholden once in office.

Hopefully people will click on the links in my last post, because I think many are flat-out ignorant of that information.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
17. Let's see. People criticize the Dems for taking $5,000 donations, while two brothers
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

are prepared to donate a billion or so each.

Do the math. It's not the same.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. See what I mean?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:37 PM
Aug 2015

Like I said, I hope you and others will click on the links in my previous post. People seem quite ignorant of the fact that Dems get massive sums from the likes of Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, General Electric, Monsanto, George Soros, and so on. Your last reply is exhibit A.

As much as you may want to believe, it ain't all small donations from mom and pop. Sorry to burst that bubble.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
3. The Best Candidate
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:58 AM
Aug 2015

Money can buy, and like a good politician she stays bought!
I'll take the revolution thanks....

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
6. The revolition? Is that . ..
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:43 AM
Aug 2015

.... one of those fantasy video games? (Maybe set in a post apocalyptic future.)

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
12. LOL @ "the revolution"
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:16 PM
Aug 2015

One of so many examples of why this campaign is so much like Ron Paul's.. even if the candidates themself are significantly different.

The Ron Paul Revolution..
The Bernie Sanders Revolution..

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. is this a post from 2007?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:13 AM
Aug 2015

Sorry. Are we allowed to believe that spending hundreds of millions of dollars that were raised from billionaires and oligarchs is not our idea of a "president of the people"?

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
10. If only Citizens United
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:05 AM
Aug 2015

had made an anti-Bernie film, then surely SCOTUS would have ruled against them.

They would know how authentic he is and would naturally see that money isn't speech.

Because it was a Hillary Lannister film, then what was the harm really?

Gothmog

(145,264 posts)
11. Oh shock of shocks-she is conducting polls and raising money
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:54 AM
Aug 2015

Maybe she wants to win in November of 2016

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