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Related: About this forumConnecticut Governor Dan Malloy Hits Bernie Sanders On Gun Control
This article was published yesterday. It's good to see Bernie Sanders getting challenged on this issue.
Keep in mind Connecticut is where the Sandy Hook massacre took place.
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August 26, 2015, 01:27 pm
Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy is criticizing Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on gun control, suggesting the presidential hopeful’s views are out of step with the Democratic Party.
Malloy, who has become an outspoken advocate of gun control since the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in his state, suggested the positions of Hillary Clinton — the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination — are closer to where most Democratic voters are.
“Her position among the Democrats is a lot more popular than his position,” Malloy said of Sanders. “There’s a difference.” Malloy, who was dispatched to New Hampshire to campaign on behalf of Clinton, brought up Sanders’s vote against the Brady bill as a member of the House, according to the Stamford Advocate.
The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 established a federal background check program and mandated waiting periods on gun purchases.
The governor called Sanders’s record on guns “anathema to my own.”
“I don’t understand it,” he said at a meeting with Clinton organizers in Manchester, N.H.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252007-conn-governor-hits-sanders-on-gun-control
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)To me, after reading up on a lot of disturbing votes and stances in his past, Senator Sanders looks like a polished wooden nickel.
Genghis Khan
(13 posts)Wrong target.
Cha
(297,244 posts)
Fearless
(18,421 posts)The governor's stupid is showing.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)attack surrogate Malloy is online.
Genghis Khan
(13 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Frankly, all Democratic politicians should have an 'F' rating from that crazy organization.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... to be more in line with many other parts of the Democratic Party of today...
Or maybe he's advocating that Bernie should be more like Dianne Feinstein to be acceptable and push hard on a gun-control bill in the Senate that he knew had no chance of getting past a filibuster in the Senate, and at the SAME TIME voting AGAINST proposed rule changes at the start of that senate session after Sandy Hook reforming the filibuster that Jeff Merkley was trying to get passed that WOULD HAVE ALLOWED IT TO GET THROUGH THE FILIBUSTER TO PASS!
The key is to make it LOOK like you're for gun control, but not to upset the lobbyists that pay you to get things "not passed" that you make voters feel like you're working for them on.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Joining the ranks!
*Luis Gutierrez
*Claire McCaskill
*Anthony Weiner
*etc.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)".....Malloy, who was dispatched to New Hampshire to campaign on behalf of Clinton"
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Does it violate the frequent advice that we should be positive about the candidates we support, and never say anything negative about the others?
Does it violate the equally frequent advice that we must all fight against Republicans and never against other Democrats?
These are the kinds of responses I see when a post criticizes Hillary Clinton. Presumably all those Clinton supporters who've posted along those lines will be showing up any minute now to criticize this post.
Any minute now....
boston bean
(36,221 posts)him to come around and push him further left on this issue.
It's not a criticism it's a favor.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Malloy can criticize Sanders, and, of course, other people can criticize Malloy's criticism if they think it's ill-founded. It doesn't need to be a favor to Sanders to be legitimate. Clinton supporters don't need to defend the post by taking the tack you set forth.
What they do need to defend is the double standard, in which pleas for party unity and denunciations of "negative campaigning" appear to work in only one direction.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Honest criticism and debate about Sanders positions on gun control is certainly fair game. Have at it.
Using the immediate aftermath of a tragedy to drag it into a campaign and "hold his feet to the fire" is tacky,, tasteless and insensitive.
Cha
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)There's a lot HC supporters don't "understand" about Bernie.
Like the fact that he's pro-gun control.
WASHINGTON, April 17 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today voted for expanded background checks on gun buyers and for a ban on assault weapons but the Senate rejected those central planks of legislation inspired by the shootings of 20 first-grade students and six teachers in Newtown, Conn.
“Nobody believes that gun control by itself is going to end the horrors we have seen in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., Blacksburg, Va., Tucson, Ariz. and other American communities,” Sanders said. “There is a growing consensus, however, in Vermont and across America that we have got to do as much as we can to end the cold-blooded, mass murders of innocent people. I believe very strongly that we also have got to address the mental health crisis in our country and make certain that help is available for people who may be a danger to themselves and others,” Sanders added.
The amendment on expanded background checks needed 60 votes to pass but only 54 senators voted for it. “To my mind it makes common sense to keep these weapons out of the hands of people with criminal records or mental health histories,” Sanders said.
Under current federal law, background checks are not performed for tens of thousands of sales – up to 40 percent of all gun transfers – at gun shows or over the Internet. The amendment would have required background checks for all gun sales in commercial settings regardless of whether the seller is a licensed dealer. The compromise proposal would have exempted sales between “family, friends, and neighbors.”
In a separate roll call, the Senate rejected a proposal to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. That proposal was defeated by a vote of 60 to 40.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-votes-for-background-checks-assault-weapons-ban
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)And it won't stop them now. Just keep telling the truth and calling them out for the liars they are.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They've been pushing the gun nut meme for months hoping it will stick.
mythology
(9,527 posts)This site indicates a much more mixed position on gun control:
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm
On Guns: A mixed approach. No federal handgun waiting period. Some protection for gun manufacturers. Ban assault weapons.
Sanders voted against the pro-gun-control Brady Bill, writing that he believes states, not the federal government, can handle waiting periods for handguns. In 1994, he voted yes on an assault weapons ban. He has voted to ban some lawsuits against gun manufacturers and for the Manchin-Toomey legislation expanding federal background checks.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)He's promoting Hillary, not the truth.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)But fact that Bernie got elected to Congress with the help of the NRA.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)and browbeat him for being a union-busting conservative technocratic thug with moderate positions on social issues, a love of budget-busting subsidies to big business, and a friendly-hand out for fiscal help from his Wall St. friends. Everything wrong with Clinton, Malloy is to a greater degree...I'd be shocked if he wasn't a loyal dog for Clinton. The problem is...everything wrong with the modern Democratic party, is epitomized by Dannel P. Malloy.
Oh Danny-boy...every time you open your mouth, I'm a little more embarrassed I worked to get you elected. I'm so happy you're term-limited from ever running again for Governor.
