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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:39 PM Aug 2015

Why the Sanders Fail?

I am shocked Sanders is as poorly as he is in Iowa. I figured he would win there and New H, then get blown out of the water on Super Tuesday by African Americans and Latinos. But I dont think he will win either of those first states based on Clinton's overwhelming lead.

So what happened?

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Why the Sanders Fail? (Original Post) arely staircase Aug 2015 OP
Speaking as a Hillary supporter, it's too early yet to make predictions about any state. Metric System Aug 2015 #1
Sanders is polling ahead in NH at this time. leftofcool Aug 2015 #2
Are you being sarcastic? aikoaiko Aug 2015 #3
Ikr? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #5
The media is almost 100% ignoring Bernie. Vinca Aug 2015 #4
I see Bernie more than any others unfortunately. moobu2 Aug 2015 #15
But you like Hillary's nasal accent and flat voice, better? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #20
Sounds ever so unbiased of you. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #21
hasn't hillary always had a big lead in iowa ? JI7 Aug 2015 #6
I thought it was Iowa too arely staircase Aug 2015 #9
Fail? He came out of noweherr and within weeks was drawing huge crowds and riing in the polls Armstead Aug 2015 #7
Well yeah, if you redefine success as something other than winning arely staircase Aug 2015 #11
Well, first of all you're being a litttttllle premature Armstead Aug 2015 #13
Regarding Iowa Z_California Aug 2015 #8
But why is he trailing Clinton sooo badly? NT arely staircase Aug 2015 #10
See post #3. nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #12
why the hilly fail in New Hampshire? gosh, hilly is only outspending cali Aug 2015 #14
I always expected Sanders to carry Iowa AND NH arely staircase Aug 2015 #17
huh? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #16
Did I miss something? SheilaT Aug 2015 #18
Her lead is a little less every day. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #19

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
3. Are you being sarcastic?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:49 PM
Aug 2015

New Hampshire is leaning toward Bernie now.


And the trends lines in IA are looking promising. Its not easy turning a large ship that has momentum. February is a ways away.


Vinca

(50,273 posts)
4. The media is almost 100% ignoring Bernie.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:50 PM
Aug 2015

It's either Trump all the time or Hillary's dishonesty rating. Bernie, the candidate talking most about our biggest issues, has been "disappeared."

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
15. I see Bernie more than any others unfortunately.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:49 PM
Aug 2015

I can't stand that nasal accent and monotone voice.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
20. But you like Hillary's nasal accent and flat voice, better?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

Or you like it when she tries to talk Southern and sounds completely stupid?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. Fail? He came out of noweherr and within weeks was drawing huge crowds and riing in the polls
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:55 PM
Aug 2015

That alone is a success, regardless of the ultimate outcome.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
13. Well, first of all you're being a litttttllle premature
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:46 PM
Aug 2015

and second of all, a big part of the goal is to get an important perspective into the mainstream campaigns, and demonstrate that there is a large movement of people who want to see actual change and reform in the system

Z_California

(650 posts)
8. Regarding Iowa
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:11 PM
Aug 2015

I witnessed an Iowa caucus (in Lisbon, IA) in 1984. The results of the caucus can be a lot different than the polls taken even the day before. I think the caucus format is an advantage for Bernie. If he gets to within 10% in the polls I think he'll win the caucus.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
17. I always expected Sanders to carry Iowa AND NH
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

Now I don't think so. If he carries a state (other than VT) it will be NH. But once it moves to the South it is over for the Bern. Those primaries are often a majority AA and Hispanic - game , set match. Look forward to working with you in the fall.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
18. Did I miss something?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

Have the Iowa caucuses been held and I missed them? Damn!

You DO realize it's still August, yes?

If not, read the following carefully:

Today is August 27, 2015. The Iowa caucus date is February 1, 2016. That's a bit over four months from now.
The New Hampshire primary is February 9, 2016, a week later.

A lot could change between now and then.

Keep in mind, that Bernie still has rather limited name recognition, because the mainstream media is barely noticing him. As more people find out about him, the happier they are, the more they move to voting for him.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
19. Her lead is a little less every day.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:10 PM
Aug 2015
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary


He is gaining in Iowa and ahead in NH. Plus, Iowa is a caucus and movement candidates like Bernie have an advantage in that type of contest.

Lets see where things are after a couple debates. It is way to soon to know how this race shapes up. Besides, Biden may still get in and that will shake things up a bit too.


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