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Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:18 PM Jul 2012

Josh Marshall: The Obama campaign's brutal 'Bitch Slap' Politics and introducing 'Slick Willard'

Weak, Weak, Weak

Josh Marshall

Honest question: does anyone think Romney helped himself with this round of television interviews? This is more fact-finding than rhetorical. And the people whose opinions I’d be most curious to hear are those of Republican operatives — people who want the answer to be ‘yes’ but are politically sophisticated enough to know if it’s not.

The headline in the Times is “Romney Seeks Obama Apology for Bain Attacks”.

In the Journal “Romney Defends Bain Capital Tenure”.

This is ‘bitch slap’ politics played with a gusto and coldness seldom seen from Democrats, at least since the Bill Clinton days. Asking for an apology is losing. Saying you want something you clearly have no power to get is losing.

There’s a meta-politics Obama is playing by slashing at Romney with suggestions he might be a felon. He’s wounding Romney, who is clearly rattled and angry about the charges, but just as clearly can’t defend himself or strike back. As I’ve noted many times, a thick layer of presidential politics (in a way that’s distinct from US politics at really every other level) resides at the brainstem level of cogitation — with gambits to assert power and demonstrate dominance. Obama looked in control of this situation; Romney didn’t.


TPM Reader JL could barely contain himself …

Bitch slap politics at it’s finest.
Step 1. Obama tells Romney to man up and take responsibility.

Coming soon …

Step 2. Romney whines that it’s beneath the office.

Step 3. BO Surrogates tell Mitt, you’re running for President for God’s sake. Don’t be such a girly man!!

I love it!! Are we sure Obama’s a Dem?


There’s another part of this equation: I’m not sure how many people watching this spectacle even remember that it’s nominally about whether Romney is responsible for outsourcing Bain did post-February 1999 or its investment in a company that serviced abortion clinics. I barely remember it myself.What’s driving this now is that the Obama camp has backed Romney into a position in which he looks ridiculous — something much more lethal for presidential candidates than most people appreciate.

Romney had absolutely nothing to do with Bain after 1999, no responsibility for anything it did, barely even knew what it did. Only he was the owner, the Chairman of the Board and the CEO. At least according to all the official documents, many of which he signed. Only he wasn’t any of those things, says Romney.


Partisans can be walked through the arguments of how this might be true, just as you could explain what John Kerry meant by saying he was for a bill before he voted against it. But it still makes no sense. And doubling down on nonsense makes you look silly and trapped. That’s especially dangerous for someone already saddled with a reputation for shifting his stories and positions to suit the moment.

This is and will remain a low single digit race. But the President’s team is making Romney look shifty and silly and weak. (I half expect them to start goosing surrogates to call him Slick Willard.) And they’re well on their way to defining him in a way that will be difficult to undo.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/07/honest_question_does_anything_think.php?ref=fpblg

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Josh Marshall: The Obama campaign's brutal 'Bitch Slap' Politics and introducing 'Slick Willard' (Original Post) Pirate Smile Jul 2012 OP
Wow Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #1
Indeed. We Ds are so used to R scandals arising and simply disappearing stopbush Jul 2012 #4
I can't wait until the debates........ Historic NY Jul 2012 #6
Those scare me a little ... Kennah Jul 2012 #13
Simple response (that I would expect President Obama to use): Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #25
Oh, that would be priceless Kennah Jul 2012 #42
Those would all be great "zingers" too! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #44
Hahaha! babylonsister Jul 2012 #30
All 10-12 of him! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #40
I don't see anyone responding to the posters question. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #38
"Slick Willard" Maynar Jul 2012 #2
Love Josh Marshall. TPM is my 2nd fave pol site. longship Jul 2012 #3
I love Josh too. He's smart and honest. What's not to love. nt Kahuna Jul 2012 #21
The Dems usually piss me off with their amuse bouche Jul 2012 #5
He got some practice in before the campaign colorado_ufo Jul 2012 #15
The "Rock" Obama make an entrance! nt flamingdem Jul 2012 #17
. rocktivity Jul 2012 #26
What we have here is agent46 Jul 2012 #7
'Slick Willard' isn't fitting railsback Jul 2012 #8
"Willard Fibmore"? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #22
Nice! I like it! nt babylonsister Jul 2012 #31
Excellent! JaneQPublic Jul 2012 #33
"Mittiot" does the job. SemperEadem Jul 2012 #45
Sick Willard; Schtick Willard; Shittin' Mittens...? nt MADem Jul 2012 #34
Brutal? Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #9
Coming this fall... Mponti Jul 2012 #16
:) lonestarnot Jul 2012 #32
Let's Compare Two Episodes DallasNE Jul 2012 #9
He will agent46 Jul 2012 #19
Well, we are not buying it! We know for sure he is a Conman! The Wielding Truth Jul 2012 #39
'makes you look silly and trapped' Carla in Sequim Jul 2012 #9
A pic of Romney after Obama bitch-slapped him Jessy169 Jul 2012 #12
Wedgie agent46 Jul 2012 #20
A wedgie is a drawer-pull from the back; a Melvin is one from the front. MADem Jul 2012 #35
I'd agree that it's a Melvin neeksgeek Jul 2012 #37
Looks like he gave him an Atomic Melvin! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #51
Thanks for bitch-slapping some Democrats too... Mponti Jul 2012 #14
too true nt flamingdem Jul 2012 #18
delete, change my mind flamingdem Jul 2012 #47
really poor choice of terminology.. madrchsod Jul 2012 #23
"I half expect them to start goosing surrogates to call him Slick Willard" BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #24
Romney Channels Dan Quayle bucolic_frolic Jul 2012 #27
+1000! Fearless Jul 2012 #29
Cheney was wrong. rMoney is not the man who could handle a 9/11 event. SDjack Jul 2012 #28
Romney did look and sound weak. Like a child tattling that someone said something mean to him. Pisces Jul 2012 #36
Remember when Rawmoney and his friends were smashing middle class jobs against rocks they could The Wielding Truth Jul 2012 #43
Love me some bitch-slappin' President Obama! Brigid Jul 2012 #41
only the billionaires are keeping the GOP alive.. mountain grammy Jul 2012 #46
4 tough years actually in the job quaker bill Jul 2012 #48
dems are operating with the beauty and organization of a sychronized swim team arely staircase Jul 2012 #49
Damn, it feels good to see Democrats giving bitch-slaps instead of receiving them. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #50
willard is not slick. pansypoo53219 Jul 2012 #52

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
1. Wow
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jul 2012

I'm having a hard time believing what I'm seeing. I've long believed that President Obama and his team are smarter and more strategic than some people believe him to be but he and his campaign are playing Romney and the Republicans like a freakin' harp over this Bain business right now! All I can say is that I hope that they not only keep this up during the rest of the campaign but that he makes this a permanent state of being when he wins a second term!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. Indeed. We Ds are so used to R scandals arising and simply disappearing
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jul 2012

that we believe nothing will ever stick to Rs, and that we're relegated to the sideline to observe the expected outcome. Only with Team Obama, they are very actively involved in framing and directing this story, with Obama himself able to take the position of the Everyman who wants to give Mitt Romney an honest chance to clear the air (yuck, yuck).

Kennah

(14,273 posts)
13. Those scare me a little ...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:27 AM
Jul 2012

... because what if all sides of Mittens shows up. President Obama will be debating 10 or 12 different people.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
25. Simple response (that I would expect President Obama to use):
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jul 2012

"Will the REAL Mitt Romney please stand up?" I pretty much expect he will use this at some point in the campaign. It would probably be devastating in a debate IMHO.

Kennah

(14,273 posts)
42. Oh, that would be priceless
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jul 2012

"I'm not sure which Governor Romney attended tonight's debate."
"Does Governor Romney plan to repeal ObamaCare so that he can replace it with RomneyCare?"
"I am prepared to sign legislation declaring RomneyCare the inspiration for ObamaCare, in order to give proper credit."
"If Governor Romney would like, I have a copy of the IRS form necessary for him to sign and release his tax returns for the last 10 years."

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
38. I don't see anyone responding to the posters question.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jul 2012

I watched Mittens on ABC and CBS (CBS did a much better interview, ABC's Diane Sawyer is such a suck). All I got from Mitt Mormon was that Baingate was "merely a legal technicality" and that the Presidents team were "disgusting liars" for bringing it up. The Mormon liar is clearly caught between a rock and a hard place and is squirming every which way.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
5. The Dems usually piss me off with their
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:12 AM
Jul 2012

squishy milquetoast responses, so I'm loving the Brutal Obama

It gives me goosebumps.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
7. What we have here is
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:42 AM
Jul 2012

...a new level of entertainment for the masses. Politics as reality TV/pro-wrestling. We're going to be so fucking entertained by the soap opera that we'll miss the sleight of hand.

Problem is, I have a feeling America is about to wake up.

I hope I'm right.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
8. 'Slick Willard' isn't fitting
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:55 AM
Jul 2012

That would imply that he's getting away with it. More like Dumb Ass Willard.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
22. "Willard Fibmore"?
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:50 AM
Jul 2012

(Just in case that does take off, I'm noting that that currently gets zero Google hits, so far)

Rosanna Lopez

(308 posts)
9. Brutal?
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

If I were running against Mitt Romney I would be a lot more aggressive and a lot nastier! I think Obama has gone too easy on Romney so far. Romney should count himself lucky.

If it were me I would be getting ready to expose Mitt as a Pro-Vietnam War draft dodger who hid out in France because he thought the poor boys should go over and fight but not the little rich boy who was the son of a Governor.

I would be pointing out that a man who acted like that lacks the moral fiber to be President, and has no business claiming that he would be a better Commander in Chief than Obama, or calling Jimmy Carter, a man who served in World War II, a weak man.

Romney is like all chicken hawk conservatives - sing the praises of war, but run as far as you can in the opposite direction.

Mponti

(163 posts)
16. Coming this fall...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:41 AM
Jul 2012

A swiftboating ad featuring Chickenhawk Romney as Commander in Chief...with clips of the Mittster speaking French

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
9. Let's Compare Two Episodes
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

First, the whole birther issue. Obama either didn't have a long form birth certificate or it got misplaced during his many travels. His first response was an attempt at transparency where he posted his certified replacement short form birth certificate. Not content the birthers remained on the attack. The Republican Governor of Hawaii would not allow a copy of his long form birth certificate to be created. When a Democrat was elected there was a change of heart and Obama quickly released the long form birth certificate. Here every effort at transparency was attempted with the certain knowledge that there was nothing to hide.

Fast forward to the issue of Romney's status between February 1999 and early 2003. Romney's attitude is trust me, I performed no duties at Bain during this period. In this case Romney has the data available that could put this issue to rest but he refuses to release his 2000 and 2001 Federal tax returms that would clearly show whether Romney claimed he was an active or passive senior executive at Bain Capital. It would establish that he was either a part-time CEO, and sole owner so we could know whether the SEC filings are accurate or whether he is lying about his departure date. So why doesn't he just release the data and clear this issue up. What does he have to hide. He is certainly stonewalling the transparency the American people need and deserve. It suggests some rather damaging data is contained on these tax forms.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
19. He will
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:18 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Sat Jul 14, 2012, 04:07 AM - Edit history (1)

He will claim his "right" to withhold any damn information he feels isn't relevant to the American public and if the American public buys his shit, it will become the new normal.

Carla in Sequim

(228 posts)
9. 'makes you look silly and trapped'
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

Wow. One of the best articles I've read. I'm saving this one and passing it around.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
12. A pic of Romney after Obama bitch-slapped him
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:08 AM
Jul 2012


Also, word on the internet is that Obama has a firm grip on Willard's magic panties and is currently in the process of giving him a world class Melvin!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. A wedgie is a drawer-pull from the back; a Melvin is one from the front.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jul 2012

The Melvin is more painful and will, if done forcefully enough, cause damage to the genitals.

I'm not making this up...it's amazing what the youth of today will teach an old geezer who bothers to ask!

Mponti

(163 posts)
14. Thanks for bitch-slapping some Democrats too...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:33 AM
Jul 2012

Who tried to undermine the Bain attacks early on....Booker, Rendell, Clinton.....and the delicious irony that Bain may have ended Booker's future prospects.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
23. really poor choice of terminology..
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jul 2012

other than that it goes to show that axelrod is going to make rove look like failure he really was.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
24. "I half expect them to start goosing surrogates to call him Slick Willard"
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
Jul 2012

Sharpton would do it in a NY minute! He don't pull no punches.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
27. Romney Channels Dan Quayle
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

"Senator, I knew Jack Kennedy, I served with Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine.
Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." ==== Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, 1988.

"That was really uncalled for, Senator!" ===== Sen. J. Danforth Quayle, 1988.

By demanding an apology, The Mittster sounds awfully similar. And in essence, this whole
flare over Mitt's release of tax papers is about legitimacy.

It's as if Obama is saying, "Mitt, you're no public servant" with the implication
that he's just a greedy corrupt CEO with something to hide.

Well played, President Obama!

Do it again!

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
28. Cheney was wrong. rMoney is not the man who could handle a 9/11 event.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

He would collapse into whining, demanding an apology, and joining Boner is a crying jag. A real man would throw his tax returns out to the public and defend them.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
36. Romney did look and sound weak. Like a child tattling that someone said something mean to him.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jul 2012

Obama's speech in VA today and his brutal ad release are capping Romney at the knees. I love it!!! Cry some more
Romney, in fact, why don't you and Bohener take the stage together and cry in unison.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
43. Remember when Rawmoney and his friends were smashing middle class jobs against rocks they could
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jul 2012

have cared less, but when they get caught falsifying reports to play power brokers with their bone picked plunder they are so weak and needy. They used us and squeezed out pensions and stranded us in desperation. I have no sympathy for them now.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
41. Love me some bitch-slappin' President Obama!
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jul 2012

Some people didn't believe me, but I always knew he had it in him! This has me.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
46. only the billionaires are keeping the GOP alive..
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jul 2012

whine away, mittens. I'll bet as president, he would have demanded Osama apologize!

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
48. 4 tough years actually in the job
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:01 AM
Jul 2012

probably makes running against Rmoney seem like a vacation. It is considerably harder to decide to send the seals in to get Bin Laden than it is to decide to launch an attack ad. The media and Rmoney thought the tough fight was with Newton Gingrich.

Newt pulled his punches after the first big ad on the topic had errors, because Newt still had to win republicans to get the nom. President Obama does not need a single republican to vote for him, or to think that he was fair to Mittens. He only needs an energized democratic party to turn out and get parity or a bit better with independents to win. Republicans already hate him, so he has little to lose being "unfair" to Rmoney. The boot will be applied often and repeatedly and there will be no apologies for it. It is not like they ever apologized for any of the discredited birther / Muslim BS, in fact they are still filing lawsuits over the birther BS.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
49. dems are operating with the beauty and organization of a sychronized swim team
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

that punches people in the head.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
50. Damn, it feels good to see Democrats giving bitch-slaps instead of receiving them.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:29 PM
Jul 2012

And "Firms" was one hell of a bitch-slap!

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