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underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:13 AM Aug 2015

This is an op-ed piece asking why Bernie Sanders is running as Democrat

It's interesting because most media outlets to date have not asked this question. It matters, particularly down ticket. Here's the link. The article is written by Anthiny Weiner, former House Rep. He is also the husband of HRC's closest aide Huma Abedin

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/247615-weiner-sanders-needs-to-explain-why-hes-running-as-a-democrat

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This is an op-ed piece asking why Bernie Sanders is running as Democrat (Original Post) underthematrix Aug 2015 OP
Anthony Weiner... The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #1
Starts dancing.... daleanime Aug 2015 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #2
A pointless question asked by Carlos Danger n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #3
Weiner should ask himself a few questions, while he's at it... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #4
If he ran as an Independent, Democrats would lose the election. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #5
So if Bernie ran as a Socialist he would split the Dem ticket? underthematrix Aug 2015 #7
Yes he would. BTW Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, not a socialist. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #8
Well it must be something different because he did not register as a Dem until underthematrix Aug 2015 #9
He did not register as a Democrat; there is no party affiliation required in Vermont. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #10
He's running for federal office so yes, he had to list a party affiliation underthematrix Aug 2015 #11
Only in states where it is required to get on the ballot. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #12
I have posted statement of candiacy forms for all Dem candidates underthematrix Aug 2015 #19
Like I said, he's declaring as a Dem where he has to. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #26
THank you for correcting me. So that was in 2014? So he's still the ranking member in 2015? underthematrix Aug 2015 #27
Yes. He's caucused with the Dems x24 years. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #30
He was in the House for 16 years and has been in the Senate for 8 years? underthematrix Aug 2015 #31
Would you flesh out what that means to you - Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #37
Absolutely. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #35
Every time someone mentions him I hear that song and picture John Oliver. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #22
It's his theme song now and forever. Danger! AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #28
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #32
Please no ibegurpard Aug 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #13
You mean "the unfortunately yet appropriately named" Anthony Weiner, don't you? tularetom Aug 2015 #14
Well I think his name is Anthony Weiner but you're welcome to add to that underthematrix Aug 2015 #20
Carlos Danger demanding that anyone explain themselves is comedy gold! frylock Aug 2015 #15
Someone should ask the same about Hillary jfern Aug 2015 #16
The article is not about platforms, it's about why underthematrix Aug 2015 #23
He has ALWAYS caucused with Democrats hifiguy Aug 2015 #40
One might ask Mr Weiner why Third-Way politicians don't address issues. delrem Aug 2015 #17
Yes many white Dems do support Bernie. That's true underthematrix Aug 2015 #21
uh. "issues" . Y'know? Issues? delrem Aug 2015 #24
Many white Dems support Hillary. And O'Malley. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #36
one of the posters mentioned Bernie is filing party affiliation as required by each state. underthematrix Aug 2015 #18
Oh, FFS! This piece is a month-and-a-half old and has been discussed here already. kath Aug 2015 #25
I posted it because it was new to me. But I'm glad you let me know underthematrix Aug 2015 #29
Before posting please check if it is new to DU... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #34
He's not a Democrat. ellisonz Aug 2015 #38
Maybe because he stands for the same things hifiguy Aug 2015 #39
Hey look, another disciple of Joe McCarthy. PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #41
Did Anthony "Carlos Danger" attach any interesting pictures to his OP-Ed? Using him djean111 Aug 2015 #42
Even though this has not come up often, it has been out there... Sancho Aug 2015 #43
It's ALMOST 3 MONTHS OLD. And, despite some knee-jerk reactions owing to the author, it's not MADem Aug 2015 #44
Come join the Party, we have a BIG House, but, don't touch things HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #45

Response to underthematrix (Original post)

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
4. Weiner should ask himself a few questions, while he's at it...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:17 AM
Aug 2015

.. for example - Why would a Democratic Congressman act like a goddamned fool by sharing pictures of his erect penis through his skivvies?

I don't think he's that stupid… I just think he wanted to be read instead of seen on social media. What a biased and unreasoned piece of junk that was.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. If he ran as an Independent, Democrats would lose the election.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:17 AM
Aug 2015

He is running within the Democratic party so as not to split the vote. You're welcome!

Better question: Is Carlos Danger still sexting pictures of his junk?

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
9. Well it must be something different because he did not register as a Dem until
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:26 AM
Aug 2015

he decided to run for President. He was appointed to any committee leadership positions because he wasn't Democrat.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
10. He did not register as a Democrat; there is no party affiliation required in Vermont.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

You seem to be a font of incorrect information tonight.

Bernie was appointed to be the Ranking Member of the Senate Budget Committee by the Democrats.

Bernie Sanders gets perch on budget panel

link: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/226986-sanders-selected-to-be-top-dem-on-senate-budget

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will be the Ranking Member on the Senate Budget Committee next year, Democrats announced Friday.

<snip>

The promotion for Sanders, who caucuses with Democrats, gives him a prominent perch to push his priorities as he moves toward a long-shot run for the White House in 2016. He is a vocal advocate for increased spending on social programs and says the budget of the Pentagon should be slashed dramatically.

As ranking member on the budget panel, Sanders could be tasked with creating an alternative fiscal blueprint to the budget that will be put forward by the new Republican Congress.

That could cause friction, as the Vermont senator's policy views are to the left of many in the Democratic Caucus.

Sanders presents his vision of a "progressive" budget on his campaign website, which includes ending tax breaks for the wealthy and large corporations, reducing defense spending and boosting entitlement programs. He has introduced legislation, for example, that would raise the payroll tax cap on people making over $250,000 a year in order to keep Social Security solvent for another 75 years.

<snip>

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
31. He was in the House for 16 years and has been in the Senate for 8 years?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:29 AM
Aug 2015

You know, the same machine he's using to run, he's gonna need to govern.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. Please no
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:21 AM
Aug 2015

Anthony Weiner needs to stay out of the public eye for a very, very long time. I have no interest in anything that a man who can't control himself from sending dick pics to women has to say about anything at all.

Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
23. The article is not about platforms, it's about why
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:18 AM
Aug 2015

an Independent (Democratic Socialist) is running as a Democrat when he has been invited to join the caucus but declined.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
17. One might ask Mr Weiner why Third-Way politicians don't address issues.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:46 AM
Aug 2015

If he tried to answer that, he might begin to understand why so many Dems support Bernie Sanders.

(wow, I did it. I didn't write anything about ....)

delrem

(9,688 posts)
24. uh. "issues" . Y'know? Issues?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:18 AM
Aug 2015

On the other hand, I still hear echoes of the charge that Kerry was a swift-boat coward. There are always *those people*. The fuckers.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
18. one of the posters mentioned Bernie is filing party affiliation as required by each state.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:11 AM
Aug 2015

This got me to wondering about the FeC filimg for each candidate
HRC - http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/524/15031411524/15031411524.pdf
MO'M - http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/604/15031430604/15031430604.pdf
Webb - http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/062/201507149000111062/201507149000111062.pdf
Sanders - http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/533/15031422533/15031422533.pdf - On 06/30/2015, Sanders notified the FEC in writing that he was no longer collecting campaign funds for his 2018 Senate run as he had announced his Presidential candidacy on same date canddacy submission. On the Senate paperwork, Sanders is listed as an Independent. So on June 30, 2015 on the day he announced is the day he became a Democrat.
Chafee - http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/737/15951475737/15951475737.pdf

kath

(10,565 posts)
25. Oh, FFS! This piece is a month-and-a-half old and has been discussed here already.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:19 AM
Aug 2015

And as mentioned, Weiner's wife is high up in HRC's campaign.

Jeebus, why do y'all need to keep recycling the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over...
how 'bout talking about the issues???

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
38. He's not a Democrat.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:11 AM
Aug 2015

He's never wanted to be one, but he wanted all the advantages the party provides. I question his actual loyalty to the Democratic Party. He's his own man, he's not a Democrat in any classic sense of the word and I think if he were fully honest he would agree.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
39. Maybe because he stands for the same things
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:21 AM
Aug 2015

as FDR, Harry Truman, the Kennedy brothers, Hubert Humphrey and LBJ?

Could be. . .

Weiner is a putz in more ways than one.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
42. Did Anthony "Carlos Danger" attach any interesting pictures to his OP-Ed? Using him
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:39 AM
Aug 2015

as a source is pathetic. And this has already been noted, and laughed at.

If you are using this as The Reason you are not going to vote for Bernie, then by all means, proceed.

If you are using this to try and persuade Bernie supporters to switch their support - HUGE FAIL.

Anthiny Weiner, former House Rep. He is also the husband of HRC's closest aide Huma Abedin

He is a FORMER House Rep. because he could not keep himself from tweeting pictures of his junk to women who were not "HRC's closest aide Huma Abedin." He is pathetic, and trying to become relevant again. Good grief.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
43. Even though this has not come up often, it has been out there...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:13 AM
Aug 2015

I'm not sure what difference it makes, except it's still possible that Bernie might not make it onto the ballot in every state. Also, Bernie is failing to get endorsements from current Democrats in office. There is a lack of traction with traditional Democratic groups in some groups. The biggest issue for Bernie is what would happen if the GOP decided to go after him. They would put put a barrage of advertisements about being "socialist", etc. It would be a mess for Bernie.

I'm not posting a bunch of excerpts here, but if people want to read here are a few links. Some think the Democratic label doesn't matter, but others are very critical of Bernie's past.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/15/1409803/-Introducing-Bernie-Sanders-the-Hypocrite
http://www.wmur.com/politics/question-is-bernie-sanders-eligible-to-run-in-the-nh-democratic-primary/32674614
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927.html#.VaEujXi2Z7M
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/14-things-bernie-sanders-has-said-about-socialism-120265.html#ixzz3gSegIbi4
http://muckraker-gg.blogspot.com/2015/07/debs-and-sanders-revolutionary.html

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. It's ALMOST 3 MONTHS OLD. And, despite some knee-jerk reactions owing to the author, it's not
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:11 AM
Aug 2015

disparaging towards Sanders at all. It's as much about the question arising from the personal working relationship that existed between the two when they were both in the House.

Gotta read the whole thing to see that, though.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
45. Come join the Party, we have a BIG House, but, don't touch things
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:50 AM
Aug 2015

say things that challenge people

or ever, ever, ever presume to sit on the dais.


Oh, and don't expect use the guest list for sending everyone selfies of your package





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